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Obama Administration Says President Can Use Lethal Force Against Americans on US Soil
Mother Jones ^ | Tue Mar. 5, 2013 | Adam Serwer

Posted on 03/05/2013 6:13:35 PM PST by nickcarraway

Yes, the president does have the authority to use military force against American citizens on US soil—but only in "an extraordinary circumstance," Attorney General Eric Holder said in a letter to Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Tuesday.

"The US Attorney General's refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening," Paul said Tuesday. "It is an affront the constitutional due process rights of all Americans."

Last month, Paul threatened to filibuster the nomination of John Brennan, Obama's pick to head the CIA, "until he answers the question of whether or not the president can kill American citizens through the drone strike program on US soil." Tuesday, Brennan told Paul that "the agency I have been nominated to lead does not conduct lethal operations inside the United States—nor does it have any authority to do so." Brennan said that the Justice Department would answer Paul's question about whether Americans could be targeted for lethal strikes on US soil.

Holder's answer was more detailed, however, stating that under certain circumstances, the president would have the authority to order lethal attacks on American citizens. The two possible examples of such "extraordinary" circumstances were the attack on Pearl Harbor and the 9/11 terrorist attacks. An American president ordering the use of lethal military force inside the United States is "entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no president will ever have to confront," Holder wrote. Here's the bulk of the letter:

As members of this administration have previously indicated, the US government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so. As a policy matter moreover, we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat. We have a long history of using the criminal justice system to incapacitate individuals located in our country who pose a threat to the United States and its interests abroad. Hundreds of individuals have been arrested and convicted of terrorism-related offenses in our federal courts.

The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no president will ever have to confront. It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. For example, the president could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances like a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on December 7, 1941, and September 11, 2001.

The letter concludes, "were such an emergency to arise, I would examine the particular facts and circumstances before advising the president of the scope of his authority."

In a Google+ Hangout last month, President Obama refused to say directly if he had the authority to use lethal force against US citizens. As Mother Jones reported at the time, the reason the president was being so coy is that the answer was likely yes. Now we know that's exactly what was happening. "Any use of drone strikes or other premeditated lethal force inside the United States would raise grave legal and ethical concerns," says Raha Wala, an attorney with Human Rights First. "There should be equal concern about using force overseas."

This post has been edited to include Paul's statement and the final line of Holder's letter.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamaspeople; terrorism; threatmatrix
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To: ThunderSleeps
You forgot the thousands of drones they want. Enough to keep patrols 24x7 over all major, even minor population centers.

Thousands of drones... You know, now all those millions of rounds of ammunition ordered by the government make sense now. The drones won't just have cameras on them.

41 posted on 03/05/2013 8:02:43 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Robert A. Cook, PE, additional:

Holder: Obama could order lethal force in U.S.
Politico44 A Living Diary of the Obama Presidenc | 3/5/13 | JOSH GERSTEIN
Posted on 03/05/2013 2:35:12 PM PST by ColdOne
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2993801/posts


42 posted on 03/05/2013 8:07:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: nickcarraway

Anyone here remember what the Bonus Marches were?


43 posted on 03/05/2013 8:13:00 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: bikerman

The second American Civil War...Shove your socialism Obama!!


44 posted on 03/05/2013 8:16:05 PM PST by Route395
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To: Wanderer99
The first test strike target will probably be some random playground.

Yes, perhaps one where some 8 year-old kid has drawn a chalk picture of a gun on the blacktop.

45 posted on 03/05/2013 8:18:47 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: nickcarraway
Eric, you putz, it works both ways. Kiss, kiss, sweetie, darling, snookums.
46 posted on 03/05/2013 9:03:14 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: CodeToad

“That’s a far cry from using the military to attack and kill Americans doing no harm.”

But it does indicate that “the last time a president did that”, we did not have a civil war, which is what I was trying to do.

“Try again.”

To do what?


47 posted on 03/05/2013 9:04:55 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: nickcarraway
This thread has been crossposted to Threat Matrix.


48 posted on 03/05/2013 9:21:06 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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