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Company will move if Colorado approves gun control (MAGPUL)
Fox News ^ | 3-2-2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/02/2013 7:38:37 PM PST by servo1969

Edited on 03/03/2013 3:54:29 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

ERIE, Colo. Unnoticed amid dozens of tract homes in the Denver suburbs, a nondescript industrial building is suddenly in the middle of the gun control debate in Colorado.

The company, started in an ex-Marine's basement in 1999, is in a standoff with Colorado Democrats who want to restrict the size of ammunition magazines after mass shootings in a suburban Denver movie theater and a Connecticut elementary school. Magpul has issued lawmakers an ultimatum potentially worth millions: Pass the bill, and the business will move.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; colorado; gun; guncontrol; magazine; magpul; secondamendment
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To: servo1969
WY is real close to CO. No corp or individual Income Tax.

Better Senators and House congresscritter(s).

2 posted on 03/02/2013 7:41:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: servo1969

I don’t know where MAGPUL will end up, but I know here in my little East Texas town, we have two business parks expanding rapidly with multiple, massive facilities but no indication of who is moving in. A lot of businesses, not just firearms, are moving to Texas.


3 posted on 03/02/2013 7:47:15 PM PST by mnehring
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To: servo1969

Bill Hoover doesn’t seem to understand that good businessmen take into account their costs when they make their decisions, and if a businessman says he’ll move his business, he’s already accounted for the cost of relocating.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 7:47:15 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: servo1969

elections have consequences


5 posted on 03/02/2013 7:47:40 PM PST by Craftmore
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To: Paladin2

Cheyenne WY is about 60 miles north of their current location.


6 posted on 03/02/2013 7:49:55 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Paladin2
WY is real close to CO. No corp or individual Income Tax.

I'd guess Wyoming. Its a stretch, but you can commute there from Denver, so it would allow employees to relocate more gradually.

7 posted on 03/02/2013 7:51:52 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: servo1969

Wow. Erie Colorado. Used to live at 760 Pierce until the market took a dive. Ever hear from Bonnie and the rest of the Martinez family?


8 posted on 03/02/2013 7:53:36 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: P-Marlowe
Cheyenne WY is about 60 miles north of their current location.

That's what I was thinking!

9 posted on 03/02/2013 7:54:43 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: servo1969

First, there is no such thing as an “ex-Marine”.

I am loving the attitude of the folks at Magpul.


10 posted on 03/02/2013 7:54:56 PM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: servo1969

Move.


11 posted on 03/02/2013 7:55:40 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: servo1969

This company has got its priorities right. They are pretty fearless.

Now, they have suspended sales to law enforcement departments in ban states.

http://www.examiner.com/article/magpul-suspends-all-sales-to-law-enforcement-ban-states

Magpul gets a lot of money from these law enforcement sales, so this is not a painless move on their part. Now, if other major arms companies would do the same (threaten to move to gun friendly states and limit sales to those available to the general public), this might actually put pressure on these ban states to reconsider additional restrictions on firearms.

This turn of events is not fair to good law enforcement officers in these ban states. Individual patrol officers are not responsible for the failures of elected officials.
However, the gun laws are even worse for the general public.
So, Magpul is going to come up with a sales policy where individual police officers can buy their products if they affirm to uphold the all parts of the Constitution, especially the 2nd Amendment. Anything to discourage or possibly roll-back these unconstitutional laws from being made, would be a good thing. IMHO.


12 posted on 03/02/2013 7:58:20 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: servo1969

Related:

Magpul Industries Corp. Latest FB Announcement http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2992344/posts
February 28, 2013

Magpul Industries Corp. Facebook Announcement
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2991570/posts
February 26, 2013


13 posted on 03/02/2013 8:01:18 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Vince Ferrer

My guess will be Wyoming, but they would be treated like kings down here in Texas. I would love to get the commemorative “Lone Star State” edition of their magazines.


14 posted on 03/02/2013 8:01:36 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: servo1969

I’ve been telling those here that the Dems are going for all the marbles this time around. They believe they can get away with it & they don’t believe our side has the strength of will to stop them.

They are going after the shotguns, too. That tells me a lot about their real motives.

Slippery slope alert. Goodbye guns rights, hello FEMA “re-education” camps. The distance between the two is shorter than most want to believe. The people had better start deciding where they will draw the line, because too late to do so is getting closer. 6 months ago people thought I needed a tin foil hat. I suspect some of those are rethinking that.


15 posted on 03/02/2013 8:03:23 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: servo1969

We could give them a big welcome in Texas!

Happy Independence Day from your future state Magpul!


16 posted on 03/02/2013 8:04:48 PM PST by Wneighbor (I don't know about the rest of y'all but we're celebrating Independence Day in Texas!)
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To: servo1969
"I don't think Magpul is about to pull out," said Bill Hoover, 83, whose grandson AJ Boik was among the 12 killed in the theater shooting. "It's going to cost them a bundle of money."

Sure, all they have to do if they stay, is to quit making hi-cap mags.

17 posted on 03/02/2013 8:05:13 PM PST by umgud
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To: ChildOfThe60s

No chance. We will stop them cold. The momentum for a ban died more than a month ago. If they keep this stuff up, they will have a very bad congressional election year in 2014. Since Obammy is not running for reelection most of his low information voters will stay home smoking dope, hoping to get lucky with their lotto cards.


18 posted on 03/02/2013 8:09:04 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

They are being bold, because it is now or, probably, never.

But you are correct, it doesn’t take much to the free into the enslaved.


19 posted on 03/02/2013 8:11:09 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: servo1969

Looks like many of his empoyees are hispanic, if he moves they will follow.

I am confident this is not a threat and is a promise.

Please move to TX. You will be welcomed here and appreciated.


20 posted on 03/02/2013 8:24:38 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: servo1969

I know another rather large company whose executives are shooters and their location in Colorado is not set in concrete. They are willing to take the company to Texas or Georgia, two places they already have offices and many of their employees are from. I suspect by mid-summer this will happen and Colorado will be stunned by the news.


21 posted on 03/02/2013 8:28:50 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: servo1969
Fox News is a day late and a dollar short on MagPul’s proposed move.
22 posted on 03/02/2013 8:37:24 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: servo1969

Why are they waiting?? The mere fact that they brought this law forward and are even debating this law should be reason enough. If they don’t pass it now, I guarantee they will try again real soon and they will pass it.


23 posted on 03/02/2013 8:38:25 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: servo1969
Democrats have tried to ease Magpul's fears, amending the bill to make clear that the company can still manufacture magazines of any size, as long as they're sold only out-of-state, to the military or law enforcement.

They just don't get it.
24 posted on 03/02/2013 8:39:07 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: P-Marlowe

“Cheyenne WY is about 60 miles north of their current location.”

Essentially, “close enough to commute to” while the move is in-progress.

Magpul will pick Wyoming before Texas. Better choice, really. Although some here on FR are still “in denial”, Texas’ demographic future is going to “tilt it towards the blue” in the future, especially after an amnesty.

Wyoming will remain one of the “last traditional states standing”, long after others such as Texas, Florida, and Arizona have “slipped under”. True, at least TX and AZ are fighting hard, but “the writing is on the wall” for them. Last time I looked, it read, “emerging Atzlan”...


25 posted on 03/02/2013 8:45:18 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Agenda 21. They will move us all from the rural areas to the cities, and they don’t give a damn who lives or dies.

Give up your guns and be cattle in some kind of Logan’s Run scenario.


26 posted on 03/02/2013 8:47:14 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: Paladin2

“WY is real close to CO. No corp or individual Income Tax.”

Particularly close to Erie, Co, which is in Northern Colorado. About an hour’s drive north from Erie to Cheyenne.


27 posted on 03/02/2013 8:59:29 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

Don’t know why Magpul chose Boulder in the first place....wait, yes I do. It’s beautiful there. However, it is a political liberal hell-hole.

Yes, they will probably move to Wyoming. That makes a lot of sense for them. But this pessimist is hoping they chose Texas anyhow.


28 posted on 03/02/2013 9:09:29 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

sic - choose Texas...

I can’t type tonight.


29 posted on 03/02/2013 9:10:48 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: servo1969
Come to Tejas.

You won't be disappointed.

30 posted on 03/02/2013 9:16:17 PM PST by Tolkien (Grace is the Essence of the Gospel; Gratitude is the Essence of Ethics.)
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To: Paladin2

They should just move. Tell their employees that they are welcome to come with them and that they will even give them some help w/ the move. I’m sure that whatever state/community gets them, would be willing to help out in some way. Lots of those folks won’t be able to, due to outside responsibilities and that sucks.

Hate to be a judgmental jerk, but after looking at the pic that was posted, if that is their factory, I’d love to know what lever some of their employees were pulling in November.


31 posted on 03/02/2013 9:21:28 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Free Vulcan

I was born a free man. If I have anything to say about it, I will be a free man when I die. If that requires I don’t die of old age, well then, so be it.

Better dead than red. For those old enough to remember that statement. From when liberty was a concept not sneered at.

My father was a Marine that served in 3 wars. It makes me ill to think of his comrades that died for scum like these people.


32 posted on 03/02/2013 9:31:21 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: servo1969

I see a new term being used. High velocity rifles. They used to be high powered.

What is the next adjective using the word high going to be?


33 posted on 03/02/2013 9:37:21 PM PST by lurk
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To: 3Fingas

I wish O’Malley here in MD would agree with you. He’s hell bent to outdo CA and NY and chase Beretta and many FFLs out of the state.


34 posted on 03/02/2013 9:40:22 PM PST by battlecry
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To: servo1969

35 posted on 03/02/2013 9:44:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Road Glide
“emerging Atzlan”...

Total Nonsense. Texas has always been Gringo and Tejano. From the beginning. There were Tejanos at both the Alamo and San Jacinto. All Hispanics are not Lefites. And if you think the natives are going quitely under the Socialist boot, you are terribly wrong. Whatever it takes.

Texas is gaining 1,000 to 1,500 people per day. And those are the legal numbers.

36 posted on 03/02/2013 9:47:44 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: battlecry

Maryland is about to lose Baretta and could lose LWRC as well if this keeps up. Gun manufacturers are loath to move large factories that cost them a lot of money to build, but sometimes if makes more sense for them to go where the business climate is good and that, unfortunately for them, is not Maryland.


37 posted on 03/02/2013 9:47:44 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
...the Dems are going for all the marbles this time around. They believe they can get away with it & they don’t believe our side has the strength of will to stop them.

They are getting away with it in states all over the country. They are flooding the end zone and smell blood.

This will not turn out as they expect, nor as we expect. This is uncharted territory we are entering now.

The United States of America as we have known and loved her is now ending. What emerges on the other side is yet to be determined. This will not end traditionally or peacefully, I fear.

38 posted on 03/02/2013 9:48:45 PM PST by Gritty (The 2nd Amendment protects the right to shoot tyrants effectively, not deer-Judge A. Napolitano)
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To: Texas Fossil

What you said...This is not California. The Hispanic and Anglo cultures here are different. The dems will try their worst to make it like California, but we will fight them all the way.

We will not go quietly into the night. I am a transplant Yankee and this has been my home for more than a decade. I chose to make my stand here. I will retreat no further.


39 posted on 03/02/2013 9:54:43 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

On the other hand...

I don’t think Magpul will miss a beat if they restrict any law enforcement sales.

I think they are going to sell 100% of everything they CAN make for years to come now.


40 posted on 03/02/2013 10:08:25 PM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: muffaletaman

Yeah, probably.

The way Magpul is playing the customer relations game right now is masterful.


41 posted on 03/02/2013 10:10:07 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

“This turn of events is not fair to good law enforcement officers in these ban states.”

Inquiring minds want to know, just where do you find “good” law enforcement officers today? Sure there are some, like these good and decent sheriffs who are standing up against the tyranny of our government in DC. But just look at the A$$hole who runs the Chicago PD. He’s the role model for the “modern LEO.”
Personally, I don’t trust any of them as far as I could throw one of them and I am way past retirement age! They will use your family dog for target practice and you too if you give them any $hit!


42 posted on 03/02/2013 11:44:29 PM PST by vette6387
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To: servo1969
"I don't think Magpul is about to pull out," said Bill Hoover, 83, whose grandson AJ Boik was among the 12 killed in the theater shooting. "It's going to cost them a bundle of money."

Bill you ignorant slut. I can guarantee you that if Magpul wants to move it won't cost them a penny.

43 posted on 03/02/2013 11:52:09 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: vette6387

I think that the majority of rank and file patrol officers and detectives are good, dedicated people. Some of their leadership is also good. However, the heads of most big city police departments are political creatures of their democrat mayors. The police union leaders are also very much beholden to the democrat party. I don’t fault the average cop in any of these cities. I think most of them try to do the best job they can in a very difficult line of work. I think the owner of Magpul recognizes this and will make his product available to individual officers as soon as he can get a policy in place that ensures that these individual officers are reminded of their duty to the average citizen, irrespective to whatever garbage their police chiefs and union bosses try to say. I think Magpul’s strategy is very clever — to go on record supporting the rights of ordinary Americans and to remind those in positions of authority, specifically beat cops, that they have a duty to protect the Constitution despite how their bosses try to confuse the issue.


44 posted on 03/03/2013 12:39:13 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: servo1969
"I don't think Magpul is about to pull out," said Bill Hoover, 83, whose grandson AJ Boik was among the 12 killed in the theater shooting. "It's going to cost them a bundle of money."

On the other hand, Colorado is trying to make many of their products illegal.

That's going to cost them a bundle too.

And the cost of any move is ameliorated to some extent if they move to a state with significantly lower taxes.

Liberals always seem surprised when anyone disagrees with their attempts to dictate conduct and take away more freedoms. They are perfectly willing to give up their freedoms to leftist dictators and are downright befuddled when others don't want to join their flock of sheeple.


45 posted on 03/03/2013 2:46:55 AM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: servo1969
"Pass the bill, and the business will move."

I think MAGPUL should move now, regardless of whether the bill passes or not. If this bill fails, they will just draft another or tax the business out of existence, why operate a business in an environment that is hostile to your existence.

Move now it will be much cheaper than later.

46 posted on 03/03/2013 3:34:57 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Paladin2

Baretta has threatened to move out of Maryland if the new gun bills in Maryland are passed. About 400 jobs I think.


47 posted on 03/03/2013 4:25:30 AM PST by Venturer
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To: 3Fingas

Yes, this is home.

One of my ancestors was born here during the Republic of Texas.

Others came here during Reconstruction, they were burned out of AL for resisting then. The abuses of that time are still an unwritten tradition here. There are many similarities of the abuse of the authority of the central government today.

The lefties can forget domination of Texas. Not going to happen. Too many rednecks, oilies, farmers, ranchers, outdoorsmen, construction workers and old farts to ever pull it off. Too many weapons. Too many non-city dwellers.

Obozo will be gone before we are.


48 posted on 03/03/2013 4:37:17 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: ChildOfThe60s
My father was a Marine that served in 3 wars. It makes me ill to think of his comrades that died for scum like these people

I spent 20 years in the Air Force, protecting the country from all enemies foreign and domestic. Little did I realize that it would be the domestic enemies who would take us down the primrose path to destruction. You are right, they are utter scum.

49 posted on 03/03/2013 4:47:15 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Gritty
This will not end traditionally or peacefully, I fear

You are correct sir. This will not end traditionally or peacefully, and I fear it too.

50 posted on 03/03/2013 4:53:01 AM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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