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WA:Background check bill could die; police lobby opposes one tenet
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 2 March, 2013 | Dave Workman

Posted on 03/02/2013 7:19:10 PM PST by marktwain

A controversial bill aimed at expanding background checks in exchange for major concessions to gun owners in Washington State could be in trouble, not because of opposition from gun rights groups, or legislative liberals, but because of resistance from the law enforcement administrators' lobby to one of the key provisions.

Alan Gottlieb with the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, both pilloried and praised within the firearms community recently, told Examiner late Friday that the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs (WASPC) is opposed to a tenet of the proposed substitute House Bill 1588 that would abolish the state’s pistol registry, maintained by the state Department of Licensing. Everyone else appeared to be on board with the provision including sponsors Mike Hope (R-Lake Stevens) a Seattle police officer, and Jamie Pedersen (D-Seattle), chairman of the House Judiciary Committee that heard the bill.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: backgroundcheck; banglist; guncontrol; registration; secondamendment; wa
They note there are only two reasons for registration: taxation or confiscation.
1 posted on 03/02/2013 7:19:24 PM PST by marktwain
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They note there are only two reasons for registration: taxation or confiscation.

and then there is that little issue about coming into homes every so often to ensure that firearms are compliant with the law about storage and safe-keeping.

2 posted on 03/02/2013 7:24:16 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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state’s pistol registry

Say what? That's news to me.

3 posted on 03/02/2013 7:26:31 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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So, the police in commie Seattle opposed the bill because it was going to get rid of their pistol owners’ database. I am not surprised.


4 posted on 03/02/2013 7:28:34 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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Part of Gottlieb’s brilliant strategy from last week.


5 posted on 03/02/2013 8:35:30 PM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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Of course, none of these brilliant LEOs figured out that this was a good way to get killed “in the line of duty”? Gee, no fancy retirement funded by the taxpayers? Your family put at risk? What could possibly go wrong with playing junior Gestapo for the Washington political gun grabbers?
6 posted on 03/02/2013 8:45:48 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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state’s pistol registry Say what? That's news to me. Yea, same here. I've never filled out anything other than a federal 4473 when purchasing firearms in WA. Are we missing something?
7 posted on 03/02/2013 9:28:29 PM PST by rickomatic
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This law is patterned after something being negotiated by some Rino’s win WA-DC.

I was shocked that Second Amendment Org would be behind it.

It will now be interesting to see what happens at the federal level.

8 posted on 03/02/2013 9:46:29 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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9 posted on 03/03/2013 5:07:55 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I’d suggest we are missing quite a lot. NICS stands for National Instant Criminal Background Check System. It is not a data base but sure smells and quacks like one, and if I may say, the building of government lists/databases is not for maintaining the Liberty of the people, but just the opposite. Beware the attempts at legislating every jot and tittle. It does work to make criminals of the law abiding.

I find this on the FBI Web site to be enlightening. NICS is located at the FBI’s Criminal Justice Information Services Division in Clarksburg, West Virginia. It provides full service to FFLs in 30 states, five U.S. territories, and the District of Columbia.

Certainly begs the question who are the missing twenty states, and why are they not “invested”. Recent attempts at legislating those deemed mentally unqualified to own or possess a firearm and produce a data base of such, failed on a fluke in a House Committee by one vote. It will surely return next year for another try. This issue is worth much more than a thread will fix or address.


10 posted on 03/03/2013 5:22:53 AM PST by wita
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“Say what? That’s news to me.”

One would have to think that the feds sent them the info, from background checks. It looks like they let the cat out of the bag by mistake here.


11 posted on 03/03/2013 7:23:51 AM PST by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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NICS surely feeds a database. The government does nothing without recording all the information it obtains either as a goal or as a side effect. NICS may not record that you actually bought a gun or what sort but it records that you were intending to buy a gun.


12 posted on 03/03/2013 8:53:16 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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We have to look into this big time. Wonder if the wording of the bill provides clues?


13 posted on 03/03/2013 9:34:58 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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