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Poll shows 61 percent of Californians back gay marriage
Reuters ^ | 3/1/13 | Ronnie Cohen

Posted on 03/01/2013 9:07:35 AM PST by OKRA2012

(Reuters) - California voters favor same-sex marriage by a nearly 2-to-1 margin, a poll showed on Thursday, a month before the U.S. Supreme Court is set to hear arguments over a gay marriage ban approved by the state's residents in 2008.

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If the cannot overturn the will of the people in the Prop 8 case at the Supreme Court they will overturn the will of the people by holding another election.
1 posted on 03/01/2013 9:07:41 AM PST by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

Gay Marriage lost four times in Maine. Last year it passed. Now they call it “Settled Law”.


2 posted on 03/01/2013 9:09:25 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: OKRA2012

If 61% of Californians truly want gay marriage and vote for it at the ballot box, then more power to them. We live in a federal system and that is their choice. My issue with this always has been how the Left tries to use judges and the federal government to force gay marriage on a population that does not want it, which has been pretty much every state up until recently.


3 posted on 03/01/2013 9:11:06 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: OKRA2012

Remember, back in the 90’s, when gay marriage seemed like a senseless abstraction?


4 posted on 03/01/2013 9:11:45 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: OKRA2012

San Francisco, San Jose, Hollywood, I am not surprised.

The up side, they will not reproduce themselves.


5 posted on 03/01/2013 9:12:02 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Not directly, but they’ll adopt and convert.


6 posted on 03/01/2013 9:14:33 AM PST by Monty22002
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To: OKRA2012

I voted for Prop 8, but wouldn’t another election be the “will of the people” too? While I hate some results, I have no problem with “the will of the people” even if they change their mind later.

Having said that, the propaganda from the Left on this issue must be met with truth and facts.


7 posted on 03/01/2013 9:17:23 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I do not have much hope for Prop 8 to be upheld by the SCOTUS as I suspect that Kennedy and Roberts will vote along with the liberals to overturn.

And while overturning California’s Prop 8 will not directly impact other states’ Pro Family laws, the Justices will draw a roadmap to show how every other Pro Family Marriage law can be overturned.


8 posted on 03/01/2013 9:23:10 AM PST by OKRA2012
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To: RIghtwardHo
Between the relentless media propaganda and the judicial system the controlling interests here in CA have effectively destroyed the ballot proposition process.

It is now meaningless, and this is no longer a functioning republic.

9 posted on 03/01/2013 9:24:38 AM PST by skeeter
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To: OKRA2012

Forty seven years ago the Hippies declared marriage dead. Old fashioned, only a piece of paper! Living together was enough if you were sincere.

Today marriage is the most important thing two people can engage in, BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE GAY!


10 posted on 03/01/2013 9:25:19 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (THE SOUND OF MUSIC at the POTEET THEATRE in OKC! See our murals before they are painted over!)
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To: OKRA2012

Sure 61% just happen to want it while the Supreme Court is deciding, even though they voted against it in a recent election.

Bullcrap.

The issue before the SC is whether the voters have a right to decide. As someone else posted, if California approves it in the next vote that’s up to them.


11 posted on 03/01/2013 9:25:50 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

So 61% support gay marriage but it lost by popular vote. That would mean at least 50% didn’t support it.

So where did the bogus number come from?


12 posted on 03/01/2013 9:36:43 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: OKRA2012

Where did they do the poll? A bathhouse in San Francisco?


13 posted on 03/01/2013 9:42:29 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: OKRA2012

Opinion polling is usually flawed on this issue, for a number of reasons. But we have actual votes we can look at.

Prop. 22, CA’s first marriage amendment, passed by 61% in 2000, the same % NC passed theirs by last year, so it is reasonable to think NC is 12 years or so behind CA on the issue. CA’s Prop. 8 passed by 52% in 2008, swinging 9% in 8 years. The thing with this is if our masters in black robes deign to uphold it, they will simply try another popular vote to repeal it. All they need is 50% + 1 vote, seems like some sort of repeal on prop.8 5 years after it originally passed would probably pass now.

That’s the danger, to the state in the modern era, marriage is simply whatever judges, pols, or 51% of voting public think it should be at any one time. And that’s it.

Freegards


14 posted on 03/01/2013 9:46:44 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: EQAndyBuzz

So where did the bogus number come from?

People not voting and another younger bunch of folks turning of age and registering to vote.
This is a ballot box non issue. The next time it is put on the ballot in California it will easily pass.


15 posted on 03/01/2013 9:47:21 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: OKRA2012

SO, if someone “backs” a gay marriage, is that like a threesome?


16 posted on 03/01/2013 10:17:54 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Ransomed

It would be better for the voters to repeal Prop 8 than for the SCOTUS to overturn.

But, as it is now, the dominos are falling and it is just a matter of time when all states have gay marriage.


17 posted on 03/01/2013 11:53:27 AM PST by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

The ones that only passed their amendments in the 50% ranges might fail now, those that passed then in the 60% ranges will last a little longer, and so on. I think the highest % for passage was Mississippi with a whopping 86% in 2004, so that will stand for a while if they stick to the popular vote. Of course there could also be an acceleration of the seeming trend, I could see that happening if enough states accept ‘gay marriage’.

Freegards


18 posted on 03/01/2013 12:13:54 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: OKRA2012
If the cannot overturn the will of the people in the Prop 8 case at the Supreme Court they will overturn the will of the people by holding another election.

Based on a Field Poll?

19 posted on 03/01/2013 12:40:13 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: OKRA2012
I will no longer look into this issue, perhaps even my last post. The issue, all over, is essentially over. "Gay marriage" , of some form, will eventually, before I leave this earth, be available to the vast majority of Americans. Why? Because in the end, it is a social issue, and the majority will choose to accept it.

Long term, this issue is going to be a loser for the GOP, I suggest we drop it.

You can flame if you want, but I think culturally, at this point there is nothing you can really do about it. The trends are clear and strong. Its not even about "giving up", its just, already over.

20 posted on 03/01/2013 1:12:27 PM PST by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: Paradox
What are you doing on this site? Tacit acceptance of the homosexual agenda or evil generally doesn't belong here. Things changed in a bad direction can be changed back eventually. You sound pleased that the issue is more or less decided for now. Oh, ok, I almost missed the libertarian self-description in your profile. But you want low taxes, right?

"before I leave this earth"

Where are you planning on heading afterward? Sounds like the same place as the "61%"?

21 posted on 03/01/2013 1:34:38 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: publius911

The results of the Prop 8 approval should not be threatened simply because the people of today change their mind in the issue.

However, there is a huge gulf between the views of the young and old of the gay marriage issue and the problem is that old people are leaving us while younger voters enter the ranks of voters every day.


22 posted on 03/01/2013 2:19:13 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

but reality will hit those younger people sooner or later


23 posted on 03/01/2013 2:23:41 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

I am not all that confident that more 50% of the people that hold liberal views in social issue become more conservative on those issues between the ages of 45 and 60.


24 posted on 03/01/2013 2:28:43 PM PST by OKRA2012
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To: OKRA2012

How can it be that 61% of the electorate believes that gay marriage is okay, yet a majority of the electorate voted for prop. 8


25 posted on 03/01/2013 4:17:40 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: maxwellsmart_agent; OKRA2012
How can it be that 61% of the electorate believes that gay marriage is okay,yet a majority of the electorate voted for prop.8

A bit of a long shot, since I know nothing of California voters. I do know Northern Michigan people though. There is the "Bradley Effect" and the "Bandwagon Effect" though I doubt whether it is the latter.

Simply put, it is well known that in some matters, the person polled will say what he/she thinks the pollster would approve of. I find that in matters of so-called race and homosexuality a number of people are scared of being thought intolerant. Their views privately often differ. Just a thought here.

26 posted on 03/01/2013 5:05:57 PM PST by Peter Libra
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