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US Supreme Court justices voice skepticism of voting rights law
Fox News ^ | 02/27/2013

Posted on 02/27/2013 2:15:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind

The U.S. Supreme Court's conservative justices voiced deep skepticism Wednesday about a section of a landmark civil rights law that has helped millions of Americans exercise their right to vote.

In an ominous note for supporters of the key provision of the Voting Rights Act, Justice Anthony Kennedy both acknowledged the measure's vital role in fighting discrimination and suggested that other important laws in U.S. history had run their course. "Times change," Kennedy said during the fast-paced, 70-minute argument.

Kennedy's views are likely to prevail on the closely divided court, and he tends to side with his more conservative colleagues on matters of race.

The court's liberals and conservatives engaged in a sometimes tense back-and-forth over whether there is still a need in 2013 for the part of the voting rights law that requires states with a history of discrimination against blacks, mainly in the Deep South, to get approval before making changes in the way elections are held.

Justice Antonin Scalia called the law a "perpetuation of racial entitlement."

Chief Justice John Roberts, a vocal skeptic of the use of race in all areas of public life, cited a variety of statistics that showed starker racial disparities in some aspects of voting in the northeastern state of Massachusetts than in the southern state of Mississippi

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: scotus; supremecourt; votingrights
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To: subterfuge

voting fraud is one of the most particularly interesting thing about the last election.

I know they been building up a base of fraudulent voting for decades.

An easy way to find out just what kind of numbers were talking about is to take the voting list and call each and everyone of the voters to see how many reported as voting actually voted and for whom.

once you get a sample it might become possible to know where to look. The smoking gun would probably be in the form of some list of people they regularly vote in the name of. Folks that are registered but never voted. The democrats have to have a list somewhere or their voter fraud operation would step upon its own toes.

But of course the first step is to take a poll of them counties from the voter list.

It would also be very helpful to review the registration list there too, because a lot of the false votes might be in the name of folk that don’t exist anymore if they ever existed.

This of course does not preclude the possablity of the bulk ballets being casts without a registered voter to cast them. But such a thing should turn up by comparing the number of voters having been checked in as voted and the number of votes cast.


21 posted on 02/27/2013 9:30:25 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: 1010RD

“We need to reject the entire premise that race exists and that only someone of your same race can effectively represent you.”

That is my position, if we really want to be blind to race then we should reject that notion.

If you want equality then you should stop looking for races to discriminate for or against. As it is right now our Government is itself the most racist institution in America.

“Does Obama’s race disenfranchise Asians and Latinos?”

Good question, sadly I think their answer would be he pays for my Allegiance with special “protection” IE: privilege. Thus reducing the “protected ethic minority” Status little more than a Racket.


22 posted on 02/27/2013 9:38:21 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: 1010RD
Kagan is a simple-minded piece of sh** who isn't right about anything.

Justice Elena Kagan argued that... there is a “second generation” of discrimination under way with the insidious use of other devices, such as... voter identification laws...

Heaven forfend people wanting to vote should be made to prove they are who they say they are, and that they are citizens in the first place. Good lord - - if the rats ever take over the Supreme Court, ANY hope of resurrecting America is gone forever.

23 posted on 02/27/2013 9:52:45 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jacquerie; fieldmarshaldj; Impy
>> Among the evils made possible by the 17th Amendment, is the VRA, aka Reconstruction Part II. <<

In addition, the superbly evil 17th amendment is also responsible for the popularity of Justin Bieber, the disappearance of Crispy M&M's, Michael Moore winning an Oscar, O.J. Simpson being acquitted, the current 3D movie craze, the existence of French people, and Johnny Cash dying. There is simply no end to the evils wrought by this amendment. We must give Mike Madigan the power choose our Senators to save our Republic.

24 posted on 02/28/2013 12:02:13 AM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: SeekAndFind
... to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color.

Race or color has nothing to do with it.

Being a citizen, the right is protected. Showing one is a citizen should not be an undue encumbrance, nor should identifying one's self to prevent being denied the Right by those who might fraudulently utilize one's right to vote.

Of course, if that seems simple enough to me, they will probably vote the other way.

25 posted on 02/28/2013 12:12:43 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: BillyBoy

>>We must give Mike Madigan the power choose our Senators to save our Republic.

No, just confine the people to the election of one house of Congress.


26 posted on 02/28/2013 1:46:34 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

Roger that. Progressives have been wrecking things for some time now.


27 posted on 02/28/2013 5:01:10 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Monorprise
You'd think the Land of Liberty would be embarrassed to have race classifications a la Apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany.
28 posted on 02/28/2013 5:03:23 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Lancey Howard

Love the use of forfend. That’s a word that gets too little play. Kagan’s the epitome of liberal thought - an affirmative action hire fulfilling the Peter Pan Principle.


29 posted on 02/28/2013 5:10:55 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeeSharp

Spot on.


30 posted on 02/28/2013 6:12:01 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Lancey Howard
S/B Peter Principle i.e. incompetence.
31 posted on 02/28/2013 6:21:28 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BillyBoy; Jacquerie; fieldmarshaldj; Impy

So you’re argument is that we’re closer to republican perfection with two popularly elected Houses of Congress?

You might want to revisit the history of democracies and tyrannies. I suspect you’re less knowledgeable than our Founders.


32 posted on 02/28/2013 6:23:23 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; BillyBoy

If you think the Founding Fathers would want corrupt tyrants like Mike Madigan annointing Senators for perpetuity, you’re sadly mistaken.


33 posted on 02/28/2013 11:40:10 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

Our Founders knew all about corruption a la Madigan.

If you’re at all familiar with history from ancient to modern (1700s), you’d know that the Founders knew about and recognized that the archetype of Madigan had existed in every age and place and would return again to infest our country.

It may surprise you, but even during the lifetimes of the Founders power-mongers, sociopaths and charlatans existed.

It may also surprise you that the same people who elected a Madigan elected a Durbin and a Kirk. There’s no reason to believe that we wouldn’t end up with exactly those two again if the 17th didn’t ever pass.

The difference would be a Senate made up of representatives of state interests, as opposed to what we have today - a House with six year terms.


34 posted on 02/28/2013 1:55:13 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; fieldmarshaldj
>> what we have today - a House with six year terms. <<

Sure, Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee of Texas could easily be elected Senator Shelia Jackson Lee of Texas, since there's no difference between the two houses since the 17th passed. I'm sure her constituents in her ultra-liberal safe Democrat house district are exactly like the statewide electorate.

Give it a rest.

35 posted on 02/28/2013 2:07:26 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

Pause for a moment and ponder:

The House is popularly elected to 2 year terms.
The Senate is popularly elected to 6 year terms.

That’s my point. Yours is obfuscation and nonsense.

The Senate was supposed to be insulated from popular sentiment and represent the natural aristocratic/landed/monied class that exists in every society.

If you think Madigan represents his own interests you’re a fool.


36 posted on 02/28/2013 2:16:59 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; BillyBoy
How given systems should be and how they turn out are often two different things. The absurdity that states today are somehow bastions of shrinking government is astonishingly naive (what you imply you believe in the types of people that would be elected). Repeal of the 17th would mean 100 Senators unified in their goal of going all out to get as much $$ for their states as possible. You'd never get a pro-small government Senator again... it would be political suicide for a potential candidate.
37 posted on 02/28/2013 2:55:38 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chief Justice John Roberts, a vocal skeptic of the use of race in all areas of public life, .....

Then he votes with the liberals.


38 posted on 02/28/2013 5:10:32 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: Jacquerie; 1010RD; BillyBoy

Do you offer any proof of this?


39 posted on 02/28/2013 9:25:47 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: 1010RD; BillyBoy; Jacquerie; fieldmarshaldj

Well I think so, yes.

Politicians are a-holes. I don’t want a bunch a-holes in the state legislatures choosing such a powerful office. I’d rather take my chances with the retards in the general public.

I am certain repeal would lead to more statist Senators from both parties.

In their infinite wisdom they made the constitution amendable. And it’s a damn good thing they did otherwise there would be no bill of rights and every POTUS election would end in a tie.


40 posted on 02/28/2013 9:33:33 PM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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