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$200 For A Box of 22LR Ammo
AmmoLand ^ | Feb 26, 2013 | Major Van Harl USAF Ret

Posted on 02/26/2013 6:18:42 AM PST by EXCH54FE

Have you tried to buy ammo in the past sixty days? The ability of find any handgun ammunition is almost impossible unless you are willing to pay as much as twice the normal price. Certain rifle calibers, such as .223 Remington and 308 Winchester are selling for a $1 to $2 a round.

A twenty round box of 223 Remington was selling for about $8 a box two months ago. Now some types of 223 Remington are selling for $35 a box of twenty. This is pure manmade panic buying. I have been writing for over five years about the volatility of ammo availability and price, now the chickens have come home to roost.

This is not a natural, disaster driven crisis that makes the public go out and desperately seek guns and ammo because the world is coming to an end. This is purely a politically driven Bravo Sierra (BS) manmade panic buying problem.

However what it is, is an excellent training tool for those who continue to sit on the fence of personal protection and support of the Constitution. The bad guys under the “Klingon Cloaking Devise” of elected politicians (primarily Democrats) are after your firearms and more importantly your Constitutional rights under the 2nd Amendment. You may believe it is someone else’s job to do all the heavy lifting in protecting you from evil.

If weakness is the basis you want to build your life and the safety of your family on so be it, but how dare you expect someone else to risk their life to rush in and save you because you refused to prepare.

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In time of real crisis I project a 50 round box of 22lr ammo will trade for the current value of an ounce of silver. So if silver is $200 an ounce that will make a 22lr bullet worth $4 a round. If you think I am off the mark go out and try to buy a box of 22lr ammo today. Today’s ammo crisis is not real, but there is no 22lr to be found and that is real.
1 posted on 02/26/2013 6:18:50 AM PST by EXCH54FE
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To: EXCH54FE

I reload all my centerfire ammo. (Of course, not 22lr)

But even with reloading, the individual componemts are getting harder to find.

I have about 12,000 rounds of 22 that I enjoy for plinking. Hopefully that will last until all this blows over.


2 posted on 02/26/2013 6:24:27 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: EXCH54FE

I guess I was smart to buy thousands of rounds of 22lr years ago as I prepared to fight two counter revolutions.


3 posted on 02/26/2013 6:26:07 AM PST by y6162
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To: EXCH54FE

The ammo is out there, like the author says. (Local gun show had plenty). And it’s expensive. But I view it like cost-averaging a stock, I buy a bit every month. It’s not going to get cheaper anytime soon.


4 posted on 02/26/2013 6:29:10 AM PST by frankenMonkey (this space for rent)
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To: envisio

Just saw a vid of how CCI makes 22lr. It was pretty amazing.


6 posted on 02/26/2013 6:42:02 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: EXCH54FE

I’m hanging on to what I have until this crap is over with.


7 posted on 02/26/2013 6:43:30 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: envisio

An article a while back stated the situation starkly:

This is not a society stocking up on arms and ammo because they fear confiscation,
this is a society preparing for war.


8 posted on 02/26/2013 6:46:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I’ve been searching for CCI Stingers since late November, to no avail. It’s like they stopped making them. I’d like to know who is finding any and where.


9 posted on 02/26/2013 6:46:31 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Liberty or tyranny. Pick one.)
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To: MrB

That’s exactly the ammo I can’t find !


10 posted on 02/26/2013 6:47:04 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: MrB

I paid $8.57/box of 100ea Min Mags Saturday. Purchase was rationed to one box per customer.


11 posted on 02/26/2013 6:47:52 AM PST by MachIV
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To: EXCH54FE

Ammo is the “Beanie Babies” of today and it may be that many of the people who specialized in buying Beanie Babies are involved in this too.

As far a cost goes for 22LR in an SHTF scenario, the cost of a box or a single round will be higher than even the author knows.

The main items in value during the SHTF will be food, ammo, medical supplies and sanitation supplies. A case of NeoSporin will be worth more than a skid of gold or silver.


12 posted on 02/26/2013 6:47:54 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: envisio
I have about 12,000 rounds of 22 that I enjoy for plinking.

An arsenal!

13 posted on 02/26/2013 6:48:04 AM PST by Fido969
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To: EXCH54FE
How is the crisis not real? The demand far outstrips the supply and manufacturers cannot keep up. Sounds like a severe shortage/crisis to me.

Couple that with the government purchases of more than TWO BILLION rounds and you have manufacturers like Federal and Remington who cannot keep up or even come close.

Good thing for me, I have a Fleet Farm and Gander Mountain close by. I visit them both a couple times each week and I've had no problem replenishing. I just bought crap Remington Thunderbolt 22lr, 500 for $18. But, it's better than nothing and my Sig/GSG 1911-22 ate it just fine.

I often hear in news stories about the lunatics in mass shootings having "thousands of rounds of ammunition." BFD. I hope to have 10s of thousands as I head into 2014. When I'm sending 5000 downrange per year, 10000 is nice.

14 posted on 02/26/2013 6:49:01 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: envisio
A friend will tell a friend who tells a friend; next thing I know I have 10 people wanting ammo from just one neighbor's word of mouth.

Speaking only for myself, that would be a cause for concern, OpSec-wise.

15 posted on 02/26/2013 6:50:07 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

When the gun grabers loose their effort to take away guns, they WILL go after ammunition. I predict (I hope I’m wrong) that ammunition manufacture and sale to the general public will be OUTLAWED. You won’t need a gun if you can fire it.


16 posted on 02/26/2013 6:52:49 AM PST by Progov
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

When the gun grabers loose their effort to take away guns, they WILL go after ammunition. I predict (I hope I’m wrong) that ammunition manufacture and sale to the general public will be OUTLAWED. You won’t need a gun if you can’t fire it.


17 posted on 02/26/2013 6:53:13 AM PST by Progov
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To: EXCH54FE

$200 a box?

That’s a far cry from when I was a kid back in the 60’s buying ammo for my Rem512. Seems I always bought shorts, cause they were cheaper than the long rifles. I think I was paying around 35 cents a box.


18 posted on 02/26/2013 6:55:54 AM PST by Elderberry (.)
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To: Progov

They will do it with required background checks and heavy taxes for each purchase. It will be done under the umbrella of oBama care, much like the heavy cigarette taxes.


19 posted on 02/26/2013 6:58:11 AM PST by wrench
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To: EXCH54FE

Maybe we need “anti hoarding laws” for ammunition, you know punish anyone who has thought ahead and bought ammo ahead of time....

I am being sarcastic here


20 posted on 02/26/2013 6:58:29 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Progov

Agreed. But I wasn’t speaking of the reloading. That is wise. I was only concerned about the fact that more than a few people know about the reloading enterprise.


21 posted on 02/26/2013 7:00:56 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: Solson

“Couple that with the government purchases of more than TWO BILLION rounds and you have manufacturers like Federal and Remington who cannot keep up or even come close.”

Government contracts represent less than 5% of Remington’s business per a letter from a week or so ago. Nearly all of their ammo production is going to civilians.

According to my sources the industry is producing and distributing 1 billion rounds per week. The government is small potatoes. Actually,the govenment is very small potatoes.


22 posted on 02/26/2013 7:09:05 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: EXCH54FE

Highway robbery! Cheaper Than Dirt had 500 round bricks for the bargain price of only $89.95 the other day.


23 posted on 02/26/2013 7:14:32 AM PST by Professional Engineer (So long and thanks for all the lutefisk.)
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To: OB1kNOb

“I’ve been searching for CCI Stingers since late November, to no avail. It’s like they stopped making them. I’d like to know who is finding any and where.”

Yep. I can find some .45 out there but no .22lr. Its crazy. I am almost to the point that I have more .45 than .22lr!


24 posted on 02/26/2013 7:16:22 AM PST by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: frankenMonkey
There are plenty of manufactures and retailers still selling at reasonable prices (compared to pre-panic buying). But you'll have to wait for it to be manufactured and stocked.

Interestingly, I've talked to very few people that are truly worried about ammo becoming unavailable due to changes in the law. People are buying up weapons and ammo because they are expecting an event that will require the items to be in their hands immediately, not available in 2-3 months. More ammo is being produced now than ever before in history. Where is it going? Not all to gougers, as that inventory is limited and they know they are in danger of losing big if they get caught holding it. Just as fast as the ammo is produced/imported, 60-70% of it is being packed away into the closets of red state Americans.

There are now millions of dispersed arsenals all over this country. Constitutionalists are practicing Swiss military tactics, and they don't even have to be instructed to do it.

25 posted on 02/26/2013 7:17:18 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Progov
Re going after ammunition. Lead story on the front page of today's San Jose Mercury News:

Field Poll: California voters favor gun controls over protecting Second Amendment rights


An overwhelming 83 percent of voters support providing more money for efforts to take guns away from convicted felons; 75 percent support requiring anyone buying ammunition to first get a permit and undergo a background check, none of which is required now; and 61 percent support putting higher taxes on ammunition, with proceeds going to violence prevention programs.

Just think how good you will feel every time you buy a box; you'll know that you are supporting leftist "violence prevention programs."

It's coming like a freight train at full throttle.

26 posted on 02/26/2013 7:19:47 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Not much I can do when alot of people say “I know a guy”.

But if someone wants my ammo... if they can get through the gate... down the long driveway where two dogs lay... through another gate behind which resides an ornery bull... across the yard without waking up a heavily armed and trained wife... then come into my shop where I sit and reload packing a small cannon on my hip, then they can have it.


27 posted on 02/26/2013 7:24:25 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: Professional Engineer
Highway robbery! Cheaper Than Dirt had 500 round bricks for the bargain price of only $89.95 the other day.

The Walmart near had six boxes of .22lr two weeks ago (bought 3, could have bought all 6). It was Federal 325-round boxes and not copper jacketed (not sure why it wasn't the normal 550-rounders they usually carry). It was just over $15/box with taxes. The 550-rounders, when they get them, are just over $20/box with tax. They haven't jacked their prices, yet.

They have boxes of .22-250, .22short, .22winmag, .25-06, .300 winmag, .300wsm, 7mm and 6mm stuff. There's no handgun ammo at all. All the centerfire stuff is over $1/round. They don't seem to be selling this stuff very fast, as it's always on the shelf.

Maybe it's time to invest in a new caliber.

28 posted on 02/26/2013 7:29:10 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: SampleMan
Constitutionalists are practicing Swiss military tactics, and they don't even have to be instructed to do it.

Just doing what's natural when self preservation plus an awareness of history and first hand experience with human nature meets the obamanation.

29 posted on 02/26/2013 7:34:10 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: envisio
Then you're all set. No need to get defensive. I was speaking only for myself that having any number of people knowing about MY setup in such a way would make me uneasy...because...I do not have a gate...down a long driveway where two dogs lay by another gate behind which resides an ornery bull...across a yard where awaits a heavily armed and trained wife...adjacent to a shop where I sit and reload packing a small cannon on my hip.

As I said. You seem to be well set.      =;^)

30 posted on 02/26/2013 7:48:59 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: EXCH54FE

The utility of 22LR is vastly under-rated. A quality 22LR round fired from a rifle at 100 feet will penetrate a gel block 12-15 inches, and it tumbles as it goes through, leaving a horrible wound. More and more people are learning this regarding self-defense.


31 posted on 02/26/2013 7:53:08 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: GBA
Gun owners in MA town shout-down selectmen proposing gun confiscation

Even in Communist Massachusetts, people have had it with more gun-grabbing.

32 posted on 02/26/2013 7:58:41 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: EXCH54FE
Surprise, surprise!!!

Most gun owners, especially those who own to protect their property, family and loved ones starting buying lots 'n lots of ammo the beginning of OBozo's 2nd year in office.

I'm comfortable...and more than 'just' safe in my current ammo and arms position.

33 posted on 02/26/2013 8:00:09 AM PST by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: EXCH54FE

OK, what’s the big deal with the 22lr shortage?

If you got your stash of military caliber rifle & pistol ammo, what’s the huge need for .22 rimfire, unless it’s to use for barter when SHTF? Real question.

I haven’t fired my Remington .22 rifle in years or my H&R revolver. Bigger fish to fry.


34 posted on 02/26/2013 8:06:34 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Syntyr

I found some within a few minutes. 50 for a little over $25. Do not go to the 1st site which pops up after a search. Genealogy has taught me how to search.


35 posted on 02/26/2013 8:10:09 AM PST by MamaB
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To: MrB

I agree, there is a large element preparing for war we cannot have trash running our government Federal, State or Local.


36 posted on 02/26/2013 8:20:32 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: basil

http://frontburner.dmagazine.com/2013/02/25/texas-independence-day-may-soon-also-be-tax-free-gun-purchase-day/

Texas Independence Day May Soon Also Be Called ‘Tax-Free Gun Purchase Day’

Filed by REP Jeff Leach of Plano


37 posted on 02/26/2013 8:40:58 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dims are stupid, period. End of conversation.)
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To: MrB

“This is not a society stocking up on arms and ammo because they fear confiscation, this is a society preparing for war.”

I agree. Here’s a couple of ads showing up in New York ‘Want Ad Digest’:

“Bushmaster 223, $3500; DPMS 223, $2700; Ruger Mini 30, $1200; Ruger Mini 14, $1200; Hi Point, 9mm, carbine, $800”

“Bushie - .223/5.56, Magpul triger guard, hogue grip, like new condition, $2850 Neg”

http://www.wantaddigest.com/view/forsale.asp?eclass=Firearms

Only a fool would spend this much money for something that is destined to be banned very soon.

People are foolishly arming themselves for war against the 0bama government.


38 posted on 02/26/2013 8:41:42 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: elcid1970

I think the rimfire ammo situation is caused by the vast number of people out there who own a .22 rifle - and nothing else.


39 posted on 02/26/2013 8:43:24 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: MamaB

CMP is taking orders for 5,000rd cases of Aguila 22lr for $250. Lead time is 120 days though.


40 posted on 02/26/2013 8:45:41 AM PST by Elderberry (.)
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To: Elderberry

I was not the one needing it, but thanks. I have had trouble finding ammo for mine but I finally found it by going to the upper pages. It seems that everyone goes to the lower pages and when those do not have what is needed, they just quit. Never give up. That is my motto when trying to find info.


41 posted on 02/26/2013 9:00:31 AM PST by MamaB
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To: EXCH54FE

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/sitemap/ammo-and-shooting.aspx?d=121


42 posted on 02/26/2013 9:07:32 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: MamaB

I try to find suppliers that will take back orders and don’t jack up their prices. And I try to always have orders in the system well before I’m running low. My two Sons sure go thru the ammo. And now my Daughter wants to start shooting.


43 posted on 02/26/2013 9:08:54 AM PST by Elderberry (.)
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To: MrB; OB1kNOb; vladimir998; buffaloguy
Well, here ya go :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvK9QlQtrKI

44 posted on 02/26/2013 9:29:01 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: EXCH54FE

“Today’s ammo crisis is not real, but there is no 22lr to be found and that is real.”

Not true, I bought a bulk brick of 525 rounds at Fin Feather and Fur in Ohio last weekend for $29.99. Though I had not seen any prior to that for quite some time.

Limit of one box per customer is in effect.


45 posted on 02/26/2013 9:46:50 AM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: buffaloguy
Great info - thanks! I'm happy to be a buyer and a user. I showed up at the range at 9:30 AM on Saturday morning. It opens at 9 AM. The wait was 2 hours. When we left at 12:30, the wait was still two hours. The stream was steady. A new shooters class was active in the other range. Mostly women.

The gun culture is alive and well!!!

46 posted on 02/26/2013 9:48:48 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: KC_Lion

We don’t want to look at video of the ammo. We want the ammo!!!


47 posted on 02/26/2013 10:01:53 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Syntyr

I ran across some Federal Match grade on my lunch hour at my local gun/pawn establishment $7 for 50 rd. box.


48 posted on 02/26/2013 10:42:27 AM PST by sarge83
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To: OB1kNOb
“I’ve been searching for CCI Stingers...”

I search for ammo every day and have a list in my favorites of every ammo seller on the web. I'm assuming you mean 22LR CCI Stingers. If you mean a different caliber than 22 LR, let me know. When I find some I'll send you a Freepmail. I'll send you a Freepmail now just to get you on my mail list.

You have to catch the ammo as soon as a company gets some and it's gone within one or two days. I managed to catch CheaperThanDirt when they got CCI 22 LR HP one day and ordered three boxes (there was a limit). By the next evening, they had none.

49 posted on 02/26/2013 10:46:54 AM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Charles Martel

The main reasons are, it’s cheaper than the bigger rounds, it was easier to find than the bigger rounds, it’s a very effective round, and it’s good to stay current in handling, shooting, sighting, etc.


50 posted on 02/26/2013 10:53:36 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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