Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Court Rules There Is No Right To Carry A Concealed Weapon
TBI ^ | 2-25-2013 | Larry Bodine

Posted on 02/25/2013 6:19:50 AM PST by blam

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-100101-113 next last
To: Jim Noble

To bare arms is the opposite of concealing arms, no?


51 posted on 02/25/2013 9:03:04 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K
He apparently believes a CC permit means you are REQUIRED to keep it hidden.

In some states it DOES. In those places you can be in big trouble if someone catches a glimpse. Florida use to be that way but they recently amended the law.
52 posted on 02/25/2013 9:04:10 AM PST by TalonDJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: blam
From the article:

The ruling is yet another setback for the NRA, which filed a brief supporting Peterson. The NRA has pursued a strategy of using litigation to eliminate gun-safety laws one at a time, which increases the sales and profits of the arms industry that funds the NRA... “The NRA is basically helping to make sure the gun industry can increase sales,” Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, a New York Democrat and longtime gun control advocate, told The Huffington Post.

Nope, no bias from Laywers.com here.

53 posted on 02/25/2013 9:06:57 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SampleMan
To bare bear arms is the opposite of concealing arms, no?

Well, given the right's origin in knights and citizens mustered to defend the land there is no concealment therein.

54 posted on 02/25/2013 9:10:27 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: drbuzzard

“Considering the 7th Circuit just demanded that Illinois institute CCW because it is a constitutional right, I cannot see how this case does not hit the SCOTUS. There is a direct conflict between two circuits and that calls for SCOTUS to make a decision and set the precedent.
Better hope it happens before any of the conservatives leave the court.”

The 10th Circuit and 7th Circuit seem to be diametrically opposed as indicated by their opinions.

The Supreme Court often waits until there are conflicting rulings at the appellate level before taking up a case. That time will be soon.

Frankly, I’m worried as to how this could end, even with the Court’s current makeup. Of course, we can count on Alito, Thomas and Scalia. We _probably_ can count on Anthony Kennedy.

The problem that I see is Justice Roberts. Obama and his Chicagoland thugs know that Roberts can be rolled. It was their bullying and [what I believe to be covert] threats against him that caused him to literally reverse his vote in that case.

Obama “has the goods” on Mr. Roberts.
The question is, will they consider putting the boot on him again, for an issue as important to them as is gun control?


55 posted on 02/25/2013 9:22:06 AM PST by Road Glide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: longtermmemmory

“judges continue their assault on the “little people””

That is exactly what the push to disarm us by the urban elites like Feinstein that own the Democrats is all about. They want to keep their thumb on and control the little people.

An armed society by definition creates a politically strong and egalitarian society. A disarmed society essentially creates a peon underclass, where the political elite and their cronies have absolute and undo power. It isn’t about anarchy. It is about the masses having inferred power that prevents the loss of democracy.


56 posted on 02/25/2013 9:25:32 AM PST by apoliticalone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: blam

this is a great example of why naive acceptance of *any* gov’t violation of the constitution will be turned around and used against us to further limit the right.

this is how the living and breathing constitution is implemented by the leftists. no compromise is ever acceptable. inform your “betters.”


57 posted on 02/25/2013 9:40:14 AM PST by dadfly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
We now have two completely contrary appellate rulings: 7TH CIRCUIT LETS POSNER RULING STAND; HUGE WIN FOR CCW, SAYS SAF

From the linked article:

BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation today won a significant victory for concealed carry when the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals let stand a December ruling by a three-judge panel of the court that forces Illinois to adopt a concealed carry law, thus affirming that the right to bear arms exists outside the home.

Back to the Supremes we go.

58 posted on 02/25/2013 9:40:31 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cheerio

...and you can only practice your 1st Amendment rights INSIDE your home.(or designated ‘free speech’ zones.)


59 posted on 02/25/2013 9:42:37 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Daffynition




ALL OF YOU!



60 posted on 02/25/2013 9:45:19 AM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Mr. K

If the gunowner took a safety course he would have been instructed to put both hands on his steering wheel in plain sight of the officer and then inform the cop he was carrying.


61 posted on 02/25/2013 9:49:56 AM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: umgud
If a state forbids both open and concealed carry, then we have no 2A rights to bear arms...

The 2A right is merely a contractual obligation between government and people. What it's based on still stands and will always stand: The inalienable God-given right to life, leading to the right to defend that life, even when, or as, that paper contract gets ripped into shreds.

62 posted on 02/25/2013 9:50:37 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Progov
Doesn't matter either way. There was no power given to the government to make such a finding. Especially for a Federal Circuit court.

Carrying concealed is a method of BEARING armaments. As such, it is protected. No matter how many black robed perverts claim otherwise.

63 posted on 02/25/2013 9:53:38 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: blam
To bullet-proof the ruling against an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, the Tenth Circuit

This probably will go to SCOTUS as the 10th and the 7th are in conflict.
64 posted on 02/25/2013 10:04:17 AM PST by stylin19a
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SampleMan
There is a right to bare arms

T shirts for all!

65 posted on 02/25/2013 11:03:02 AM PST by Myrddin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: blam

Conflicts with a 7th Circuit opinion, so the Supreme Court will likely decide.


66 posted on 02/25/2013 11:20:56 AM PST by Texas Federalist (DeMint 2012!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Conflicts with a 7th Circuit opinion, so the Supreme Court will likely decide.


67 posted on 02/25/2013 11:21:14 AM PST by Texas Federalist (DeMint 2012!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Conflicts with a 7th Circuit opinion, so the Supreme Court will likely decide.


68 posted on 02/25/2013 11:21:35 AM PST by Texas Federalist (DeMint 2012!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Composition of the Tenth Circus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Tenth_Circuit#Current_composition_of_the_court


69 posted on 02/25/2013 11:22:56 AM PST by ZULU (See: http://gatesofvienna.net/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Eric in the Ozarks
This will not stand.

Depends on how many briefcases of cash it would take for Roberts to sway his final judgement.

70 posted on 02/25/2013 11:45:10 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: yldstrk

My prediction is it will go to the Supremes...you know how that worked with Obozocare.....
It begins, folks.....


71 posted on 02/25/2013 11:54:06 AM PST by matginzac
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: drbuzzard

If the Supreme Court gets further stuffed by ( )o( )bama, the final outcome will be along the lines of Hillary’s “What difference does it make?”, 2nd Amendment is gone.
(”What difference does it make?” = “Who gives a f**k” (Navy)).


72 posted on 02/25/2013 12:10:31 PM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: blam

Does this mean I have to wear it out in the open?


73 posted on 02/25/2013 12:10:41 PM PST by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Every concealed carry permit (including those issued by shall issue or no permit required states) should be recognized as legal in EVERY STATE.

If we have to recognize their faggot weddings per the 14th ammendment then they need to recognize our right to carry.


74 posted on 02/25/2013 12:11:57 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam

Every concealed carry permit (including those issued by shall issue or no permit required states) should be recognized as legal in EVERY STATE.

If we have to recognize their faggot weddings per the 14th ammendment then they need to recognize our right to carry.


75 posted on 02/25/2013 12:11:57 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: unixfox

The "court" can go to hell. Now enforce it.


Aye. Black-robed tyrants take note: We will NOT comply!

76 posted on 02/25/2013 12:12:45 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: blam

Two more states that I will never set my foot in. I guess I will continue to live out my days here in the deep south.


77 posted on 02/25/2013 12:14:05 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

Washington State is a “shall issue” state for CCW. Not sure what prevents them from issuing it other than a felony conviction - but there may be other reasons.

Open carry is allowed if you can legally own a gun.

However - there are plenty of Liberals on the west side of the state so there are other reasons not to visit! (East of the Cascades is very conservative though).


78 posted on 02/25/2013 12:28:25 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: blam
"Colorado law allows people to have a firearm in their homes, places of business and cars. But to carry a concealed weapon in public, a state resident must apply to a local sheriff to get a permit. Peterson claimed that the law left him “completely disarmed.”

Ah, question, how does someone get his firearm from A to B? Beaming?

79 posted on 02/25/2013 12:46:13 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: apoliticalone

the left is pushing for serfs to live in cities which their lord over. Population control is too hard for the ruling class when there is an active diligent MSM and a populace to withdraw consent of being ruled.


80 posted on 02/25/2013 12:50:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: blam

How the heck do you bullet-proof a precident? Either it’s a precident or it’s not...


81 posted on 02/25/2013 12:54:31 PM PST by Ladysmith (Every time another lib loses its job, an angel gets its wings.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam
Does that mean if CCW is banned, then open-carry will be okay since we have the right to bear arms?

Of course there will be exclusions as with Obamacare: union members, muslims, etc. /s <