Every American should watch this video as it lays out the communist agenda and pedigree to Obama. I think most Freepers are aware of the information in this video but it confirms that McCarthy was spot on and how the left have been so effective with propaganda in destroying our culture. Grinding down America
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To the people who destroyed Joe McCarthy: HAVE YOU NO SHAME???
The Tydings Hearings concerning Senator McCarthy.
For there is one Senator Millard Tydings posing with a phonograph. Senator McCarthy had gone to Wheeling West Virgina in 1950. It was freely floated by the leftist press and their lackeys, that he had claimed 205 traitors within the Administration. Old newspapers shown, including the Denver Post quoted the Senator as saying "57 Reds" were within the administration. Tydings admitted under oath he had no such recording of McCarthy, as he indicated that he had. Tydings waffled and said he saw it in print.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. By all means anyone should get a copy. The detailed lists by the authorities released under freedom of information act are of immeasurable importance. I will never understand how people living under the First Amendment to the Constitution and likely living well, could espouse such a perverted cause as communism.
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Senator McCarthy was a saint in our house.
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A much better book on McCarthy is Arthur Herman's Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the life and legacy of America's most hated Senator. Herman comes to very similar conclusions but his book is well written and interesting. It's about 1/3 shorter too.
I’m older than dirt..McCarthy was and is a hero to me..Thanks for an interesting thread.
I tried to inform my children the truth about the real threat when they were younger..Of course it’s plain to see now.
You forgot to mention that McCarthy’s critics include prominent conservative anti-communists such as Whittaker Chambers, former FBI informant Herbert Philbrick, and Roy Cohn — not to mention J. Edgar Hoover and senior FBI officials who initially assisted McCarthy and who were directly involved with the matters that McCarthy investigated.
This is what is wrong with the debate about McCarthy. His admirers portray him as saintly and heroic — and incapable of grave flaws and mistakes — whereas ALL critics of McCarthy are, by definition, characterized as “liars” or “smearing” McCarthy.
In fact, there is one rule about the McCarthy controversy that I have found to be incontrovertible: the more adamant, effusive, and unconditional the praise -— the more impervious to fact-based arguments his admirers are.
Obviously, there is something much more profound in operation here. The controversy over McCarthy has assumed cosmic-truth proportions i.e. it is no longer a question open to careful examination of factual evidence and the possibility of falsifying aspects of what McCarthy believed or wrote or said.
Instead, McCarthy admirers insist upon absolute affirmation of every predicate, premise, assertion, and conclusion presented by McCarthy. Any deviation —no matter how small— is impermissible.
In short, McCarthy admirers have enthusiastically adopted the Soviet-style of history telling. ONLY that data which they think advances their argument and the conclusions they want believed is acceptable. Any contradictory data must be ignored, suppressed, or de-valued. Any data which falsifies something which McCarthy said or wrote — is anathema and must immediately be discarded.
As I pointed out in my webpage on Evans’ book:
“To his credit, Evans has no problem acknowledging that the complete story about the ‘McCarthy period’ in our history is still murky, and it is open to conflicting interpretations of available data by entirely honorable and principled analysts, so it certainly deserves considerable further fact-based research.”
However, as Dr. John Earl Haynes (one of our nation’s most accomplished and respected scholars on the McCarthy period) has observed in an email to me:
“Klehr and I have repeatedly made clear that neither Venona, Moscow archival material, nor Vassiliev’s notebooks provide any meaningful vindication for McCarthy. First, that there had been significant Soviet espionage and Communist infiltration of key government agencies was not a view originating with McCarthy. That point had been publicly and vigorously advanced years before McCarthy arrived on the scene by, among others, Elizabeth Bentley, Whittaker Chambers, and Louis Budenz. The evidence that has emerged since the early 1990s certainly corroborates and vindicates their charges and the particulars of their testimony.
Second, Joseph McCarthy, however, went beyond them by claiming that the espionage and infiltration occurred with the knowledge and assistance of key Truman administration officials, namely Secretary of Defense and State George Marshall and Secretary of State Dean Acheson, both part of McCarthy’s “a conspiracy so immense”. There is no support in the new evidence for what was new in McCarthy’s charges or for the particular persons he named such as Acheson and Marshall. When McCarthy was right, he was not original and was only repeating charges made years earlier by others. When he was original, he was wrong.
For my view of McCarthy, see:
http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page58.html and http://www.washingtondecoded.com/site/2007/12/mccarthy-accord.html
John”
Oh, and he never investigated Hollywood.
The messages in this thread contain factual ignorance which is truly breathtaking.
I understand the desire to pretend that McCarthy never made a mistake or that he had some sort of exceptional insights which his critics did not want to acknowledge as accurate.
I suggest that everyone here review the FBI investigative file captioned “Alleged Communists in the State Department” (FBI HQ file 121-23278). It eviscerates most of the assertions made by McCarthy.
As the former Assistant Director of the FBI wrote in his 1979 memoir about McCarthy’s claim regarding “57” Communists in the State Department:
“We didn’t have enough evidence to show there was a single Communist in the State Department, let alone fifty-seven cases.”
As FBI Special Agent Robert Lamphere wrote in his 1968 book, “The FBI-KGB War: A Special Agent’s Story”,
“McCarthy’s star chamber proceedings, his lies and overstatements hurt our counterintelligence efforts.”
Of course McCarthy was right. To be compared to Joe McCarthy should be a badge of honor.
I remember in HS history (11th grade) and we discussed “McCarthyism”.. I asked that if there were commies in the government and in Hollywood, wasn’t he right? I remember this answer as if it were yesterday.. “It doesn’t matter of he was right, he angered too many people and it had to be stopped”.. this was coming from a teacher that still had Carter/Mondale sticker on his briefcase.
Right after that, I got into it with another student when we discussed the “benefits” of the organized labor movement. It was basically “my dad is in a union so they’re good” versus “if unions were so good for people, why does the state force you to join?”