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The Debate We Have to Win, Otherwise We Lose the Country
Townhall.com ^ | February 23, 2013 | Steve Deace

Posted on 02/23/2013 9:05:51 AM PST by Kaslin

Recently a discussion of this story about DC Comics being pressured by homosexual activists to fire one of its writers because he’s on the board of the National Organization of Marriage prompted vigorous debate on my Facebook wall. While perusing through the various comments, it was obvious there still exists much confusion in our country today about the term “rights.”

There are two types of rights: unalienable and contractual.

Sometimes referred to as a natural right (i.e. “the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God” reference from The Declaration of Independence), an unalienable right is a right that comes from God and thus can be accessed in your natural state without consent from another party because it existed before you were born, and will still exist in nature after you die. It’s inherent to being made in the image of God.

Should another party attempt to stop you from accessing your unalienable (or natural) rights they are guilty of a crime, oppression, tyranny, or all of the above. For example, I do not require anyone’s consent to breathe air for it is foundational to my natural state of being. However, should you attempt to stop me from breathing then you are guilty of assault, battery, manslaughter, or murder if you’re ultimately successful.

If it requires consent from another party to access it then it is not an unalienable (aka natural) right, because you have to impose upon someone else’s unalienable (aka natural) rights in the process. Taking someone else’s person or property without their consent is what we call a crime.

Nowadays some are claiming unalienable (or natural) rights that don’t exist.

For example, you do not have an unalienable (or natural) right to marry or have sex with whomever you want, because partaking of each of those activities requires consent from another party. We call people who believe they can have sex (aka “physical intimacy”) with whomever they want rapists and put them in prison whenever we can. We call people who believe they can marry whomever they want cult leaders, sultans, kings, and tyrants because they’re acquiring harems and concubines.

Likewise, you also don’t have a natural right to live where you want as I’ve heard some claim on issues like immigration. To believe that requires you to believe that private property doesn’t exist. You can’t have it both ways. If you believe I have the right to defend my own property (which our founders absolutely did), then you also have to believe that “we the people” have the right to defend our own property as well. In a “government by the consent of the governed” that property in this case are the borders and lands of these United States of America. We own them and they are our private property. Therefore, we have a right to possess and police them accordingly.

Rights that require the consent of another party are contractual rights.

A good example of contractual rights would be the U.S. Constitution, which begins with the words, “We the people of the United States in order to form a more perfect union.” Immediately the parties involved in the contract are established: the people, the states, and the federal government (or union). From there each party states in the contract the terms, jurisdictions, and liabilities each are responsible for and permitted to perform. Some of the rights in the Constitution are unalienable (natural) rights like the freedom of speech and the freedom of worship, because you don’t require consent to access them. That’s why the Constitution says “Congress shall make no law” prohibiting or establishing those things, because Congress has no power to either establish or take away that which “the Law of Nature and Nature’s God” alone bestows.

However, other rights in the Constitution are purely contractual, but where people get confused here is they fail to understand this language is intended to bind the government and not the individual. For example, the government consents to saying it has no right for “unlawful search and seizure” as other governments in human history have indulged. It is not saying you as a private person have a right to therefore store crack cocaine in your locker or illicit pictures of children on your computer. This is the government contracting with its citizens to limit its own means, not the other way around. In fact, that is the theme of the entire Bill of Rights. Just because the state promises not to exceed its authority over the individual does not give the individual the right to exceed his authority over “the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God.”

That is always the highest authority.

For example, should the U.S. Federal Court hear a civil suit between two murderous drug cartels because one failed to deliver the promised narcotics to the other and thus violated the contract? Of course not, because their very activity violates “the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God,” therefore the proper response is to arrest them as criminals instead.

Similarly, just because someone consents to having sex with you doesn’t mean that suddenly you have a contractual right to have sex with them. Is the person just a child and therefore unable to make a mature decision? Is that person mentally unstable or disabled, and thus unsure of what it is they’re really consenting to? Is that person married to someone else?

In conclusion it comes down to this, if our rights first and foremost come from “the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God,” then anything we do to indulge or claim those rights that violates that law isn’t a right. It’s a transgression—even if the other party(s) consents to it. That simply means they’re just as guilty as you are.

You have no right to do that which God says is wrong. Never have, never will, and should an earthly authority contradict this and permit your fallen nature to manifest itself, the God the “father of the Constitution” James Madison referred to as “the Governor of the universe” will ultimately adjudicate your case in eternity.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; debate; faithandfamily; founding; freedom; gaymarriage; godgivenrights; governbyconsent; homosexualagenda; immigration; liberty; limitedgovernment; naturalrights; prolife; ruleoflaw; unalienablerights
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28 posted on 02/23/2013 1:08:29 PM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: Jim Robinson

Indeed...thanks for the ping, Jim!


29 posted on 02/23/2013 1:18:07 PM PST by luvie (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Kaslin
Should another party attempt to stop you from accessing your unalienable (or natural) rights they are guilty of a crime, oppression, tyranny, or all of the above.

Governments exist to resolve competing claims with regard to rights. It is so easy to extend a claim as a protection of right that such conflict is inevitable. This is why we have statutes to define those boundaries. To assert that one can go through life without conflict with the rights of another, unalienable or otherwise, is to descend to demagoguery.

30 posted on 02/23/2013 1:23:58 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be "protected" by government.)
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To: Kaslin

I thought we lost is already.


31 posted on 02/23/2013 1:29:40 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s already lost.


32 posted on 02/23/2013 1:32:22 PM PST by Diggity
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you


33 posted on 02/23/2013 1:52:03 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin; loveliberty2

Thank you for your posts, both are excellent.


34 posted on 02/23/2013 2:06:00 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: Kaslin

Bump for later


35 posted on 02/23/2013 2:10:12 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: Kaslin; Jim Robinson

Appreciate the post Kaslin.

Thanks for the ping Jim. YES, an OUTSTANDING post. I will immediately forward this on to many on my personal email list.


36 posted on 02/23/2013 2:10:27 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Kaslin

Excellent article.


37 posted on 02/23/2013 2:25:14 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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>> For example, you do not have an unalienable (or natural) right to marry or have sex with whomever you want ... those activities requires consent from another party.

This guy wasted a lot of time on the necessary, but well understood aspect of consent.

The majority of Western civilization will, for the foreseeable future, not concern itself with the private sexual behavior of consenting adults.

The real “debate” should address the issue of law that forces citizens to service and support homosexual behavior. And also law that force citizens to participate in the killing of nascent, human life.


38 posted on 02/23/2013 2:50:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: loveliberty2

>> “The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom.” -John Locke

That makes a lot of sense.

Law that promotes “homosexual marriage” is a device to persecute those that refuse to service and support homosexual behavior.


39 posted on 02/23/2013 2:56:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Kaslin

The country is gone.

A few years/months/weeks ago my fellow conservatives were lecturing me on the need to “compromise” with liberals.

And now these same people are worried.....


40 posted on 02/23/2013 2:57:37 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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