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Detroit Tops 2013 List Of America’s Most Miserable Cities
Forbes ^ | 2/21/2013 @ 2:20PM | Kurt Badenhausen

Posted on 02/22/2013 11:26:12 AM PST by Olog-hai

Forbes put Detroit Mayor Dave Bing on its cover in 2011 for a story with the optimistic headline: “City of Hope.” The premise was that the city had hit rock bottom and was poised for a turnaround.

“Right now, it’s all about survival,” Bing told Forbes.

Two years later, Detroit’s problems continue to multiply, sadly. It is still dealing with high levels of violent crime and unemployment. Home prices, already at historic lows, plummeted a further 35% during the past three years to a median of $40,000 as net migration out of the city continued.

The latest blow was Tuesday’s announcement that the city is on the verge of being taken over by the state. Detroit is in a financial emergency and cannot pay its bills. The city has been issuing debt to fund day-to-day operations. The continuing problems propelled Detroit to the top spot in our 2013 ranking of America’s Most Miserable Cities. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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1 posted on 02/22/2013 11:26:24 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

And which party runs that city?

And has run it for years?


2 posted on 02/22/2013 11:28:15 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
The latest blow was Tuesday’s announcement that the city is on the verge of being taken over by the state.

That's the best thing to happen there in 40 years. In fact, I suspect the knowledge that it was coming is probably what's driving the big investors to the riverfront.

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3 posted on 02/22/2013 11:32:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
The latest blow was Tuesday’s announcement that the city is on the verge of being taken over by the state.

That's the best thing to happen there in 40 years. In fact, I suspect the knowledge that it was coming is probably what's driving the big investors to the riverfront.

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4 posted on 02/22/2013 11:33:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

And you would be amazed at how many Detroit boosters will actually try to convince you that it really isnt that bad! They always love to brag about their little day-trips there as if walking next to the river and staying in a tight little district in the center of town where the street lights work is the same as being there every day.


5 posted on 02/22/2013 11:39:27 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Olog-hai

Detroit, Chicago, Zimbabwe, South Africa. Once great places reduced to ashes. Common threads, anyone?


6 posted on 02/22/2013 11:42:14 AM PST by fhayek
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To: Olog-hai
“City of Hope Nope.”

There. Fixed it.

7 posted on 02/22/2013 11:42:36 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Olog-hai

Two common threads in all 13 cities.


8 posted on 02/22/2013 11:47:05 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Olog-hai
Home prices, already at historic lows, plummeted a further 35% during the past three years to a median of $40,000

I'm stunned it's even that high. E-Bay has listings that show sales prices of $1,000 or less. Unless that's being offset by something that passes for high-end sales in a gated and heavily guarded subdivision, that $40K "median" is BS.

9 posted on 02/22/2013 11:47:09 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: fhayek

Chicago = Detroit? Ever been to either?


10 posted on 02/22/2013 11:47:42 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Olog-hai

Toadsuck, Arkansas has been rated as the happiest city in the US. Toadsuck’s motto is

“YOU ARE ABOUT AS HAPPY AS YOU DECIDE TO BE.”

And the good citizens of Toadsuck have decided to be happy.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 11:47:44 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Olog-hai
The latest blow was Tuesday’s announcement that the city is on the verge of being taken over by the state

And to what end? The best thing that could happen at this point is to bulldoze the entire works, pound it into small rubble, make a large foothill of it and call it "Mount Motown."

12 posted on 02/22/2013 11:50:34 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Olog-hai
“There is no question that Detroit has many challenges,” Bing said in a statement to Forbes today. “With all due respect to the data in this report, Detroit is in the midst of a transformation."

Yeah, Dave.. but actually that transformation from affluent, civilized community to decayed, feral jungle has been underway for decades and is nearly complete.

13 posted on 02/22/2013 11:56:44 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Olog-hai

OMG, Zero’s gonna have to redistribute the misery to keep things fair. Everyone’s gotta suffer his fair share of misery.


14 posted on 02/22/2013 12:02:34 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
That echoes Churchill’s definition of socialism. No wonder Obama sent back the bust; its eyes accuse him.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

15 posted on 02/22/2013 12:14:03 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: VanDeKoik

I was headed up 75 to get on 96 a few years back after fishing the river for Walleye when I came upon a detour.
I missed the off ramp and proceded to the next exit.
I think it was Michigan Ave. So I headed west.

After a few blocks I thought I was in Somalia. Trust me, the side arm was loaded and ready for service. I did not like being there at all. Had the boat on behind me. All I could think is If I get a flat Iam screwed...
I was envisioning a re-enactment of Black Hawk Down.

This Homie don’t do side streets in Detroit no mo...


16 posted on 02/22/2013 12:30:54 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: Olog-hai

Flint is #2. Fortunately that will no longer be the case soon (largely because if they keep losing 25,000 people per decade you won’t be able to call it a “city” much longer.)


17 posted on 02/22/2013 12:41:13 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Da Coyote

decades. they’ve run it for decades.

it’s like they saw robocop and decided that’s how they wanted the city to look.


18 posted on 02/22/2013 12:53:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: VRWCarea51

I have a detroit side street story that happened in 1985.

my lovely girlfriend (wifey now) and I took in a Genesis concert at Joe Louis arena (down on the river)...stayed at the Ren Cen..

on the way there (I used to live in Michigan), we got detoured off of 96, and ended up on some side street...dont know where, exactly, but I think we were in Dearborn.

anyway...at the time, I was driving a buick riviera..nice car, fit right into the neighborhood, except the skin color of the occupants. First thing we encounter is a burned out hulk of a pontiac grand prix, up on blocks, stripped and toasted...

needless to say, the doors stayed locked, and I got the HELL outta there as fast as I could. funny as hell.....now. a bit unnerving at the time.

BTW, the concert was excellent, as I recall :)


19 posted on 02/22/2013 12:54:52 PM PST by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: fhayek

Your post made me curious about demographics, so I visited City-Data. Some interesting facts:

25% drop in Population from 2000-2010!

Median income less than 2/3 of Michigan average.

Whites make up 8% of the population.

Very interesting to me - home sales had a brief jump between the 1st and 2nd quarter of 2009....stimulus money?

In 2011, in all of Detroit, there were 18 single family buiilding permits issued.

The website uses an index to measure crime - the US has a score of 319....Detroit’s is more than triple that at over 1,000.

They come close to averaging one murder a day.

Now this is interesting - they have 3.87 officers per 1,000 people, double the Michigan average of 1.8.

Voted 75% for Obama.


20 posted on 02/22/2013 1:06:21 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Olog-hai

Detroit is a perfect example of when parasites are left to fend for themselves. These people can’t exist without sucking off resources from good and decent hardworking people. All the filthy libs should be forced to live in Detroit, then we could see how really racially sensitive they are.


21 posted on 02/22/2013 1:20:29 PM PST by JohnnyFiveRed
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To: Olog-hai

Wow, always nice to see you’re thinking along the same lines some great man once traveled. Not that I’ll ever be great. But at least I’m on the right track!

But it’s infuriating to think that those whom socialists want everyone else to suffer along with (no matter how innocent the third party might be), stupidly brought their intolerable misery on themselves — in close cahoots, of course, with the very socialists who are now preaching at us, pretending to be on some kind of moral high-road above us. That’s probably one of the worst sentences ever constructed by a native speaker of the English language, lol. But, what the hey, I’m so mad I could spit!


22 posted on 02/22/2013 1:21:28 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Flint is my home town. It was a really nice place when we had Republican mayors. Great school system, great health system, vibrant cultural centers, and lots of trees. I wanted to live on Chervrolet Avenue because of all the huge old houses. However, I left because there were no jobs. Most of my family has left, either out of the city or out of state. None of my friends live within the city limits anymore. You can’t go for a walk anymore because of all the loose pit bulls. When the vital people get outta Dodge there remains a vacuum which gets filled by people who don’t have any incentive to produce. People like me left for greener pastures. It’s a real dang festering shame. Flint was a great little city. We were Buick.


23 posted on 02/22/2013 1:54:52 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: lacrew

My post was sarcastic and probably seemed quasi racist. My point was that these areas were once shining jewels of civilization. Then the masses took over, led by community agitator types like Barack Obama. Blacks in these instances are only the vessel used by the agitators to affect change. It is easy to mobilize people by shouting racism. Nevertheless, these localities have gone downhill. And, no, Chicago is not Detroit. But it isn’t paradise either.


24 posted on 02/22/2013 2:11:17 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Olog-hai

#9: Lake County, Illinois

Something fishy here - 1) Lake County is a county, not a city; 2) Lake County includes Barrington, Barrington Hills, Bannockburn, Deerfield, Highland Park, Highwood, Kildeer, Lake Barrington, Lake Forest, Lincolnshire, Long Grove, North Barrington, Old Mill Creek, and Riverwoods, all pretty ritzy addresses (I’d guess at least half the Chicago Bears and similar fraction of the Bulls lived in Lake County - and that includes a mansion in Bannockburn that Michael Jordan is trying to unload).

Lake County has plenty of trashy areas - much of North Chicago and Waukegan are dumps, but “#9 least livable *city”? - that’s just silly.


25 posted on 02/22/2013 2:19:25 PM PST by Stosh
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To: Olog-hai

I can honesty say that I’ve seen cities/towns in Africa,Asia and South America that appear more prosperous and civilized than the parts of Detroit I’ve seen.


26 posted on 02/22/2013 2:20:55 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: fhayek

Oh, I didn’t have any problem with your post...it just made me curious to see exactly what is the racial break-down of Detroit. I know alot of people who are ‘from Detroit’...all white, and all have decided to leave.

A liberal will call this ‘white flight’ and blame them for all of Detroit’s problems.

A typical man on the street intuitively knows (but isn’t brave enough to state it out loud) that the problem runs deeper.

And I think you nailed it with this statement:

“It is easy to mobilize people by shouting racism.”

It is human nature - once you give yourself permission to fail, because there is a full time scapegoat that can be blamed, you will no longer attempt to reach your full potential.....and you get places like Detroit. I think George W. Bush called it the ‘soft racism of low expectations’.


27 posted on 02/22/2013 2:32:24 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Olog-hai

Hmmm. Michigan, Illinois, and California seem to host most of the these “miserable” cities. I wonder what they have in common?


28 posted on 02/22/2013 2:44:13 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Little Ray

Humans. Every state has a city that is on the lower rung. Michigan’s problem is who has been in charge and an industry that died/is dying. Illinois and California are run by the Mafia.


29 posted on 02/22/2013 3:27:33 PM PST by madison10
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To: madison10

Key to the death of the auto industry is unions. Democrats and unions go hand in hand.


30 posted on 02/23/2013 3:20:26 AM PST by Mrs. P (Figures can lie, and liars can figure.)
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To: ScottinVA
Unless that's being offset by something that passes for high-end sales in a gated and heavily guarded subdivision

On Detroit's east side, neither gated nor heavily guarded........

you can start with Indian Village

31 posted on 02/23/2013 3:45:35 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: ScottinVA
Unless that's being offset by something that passes for high-end sales in a gated and heavily guarded subdivision

On Detroit's east side, neither gated nor heavily guarded........

you can start with Indian Village

32 posted on 02/23/2013 3:48:13 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Wow, those are gorgeous! They must be well hidden from normal travel paths AND the media. Bet they are the only property taxed areas that are keeping the city breathing.


33 posted on 02/23/2013 8:17:21 AM PST by madison10
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To: Slyfox

You remember flint being nice? When do you celebrate your 90th birthday?


34 posted on 02/23/2013 1:13:39 PM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: lacrew

Goto the right areas, there’s areas around fox theatre, MGM grand, Leland hotel, harpos.. They’re actually decent areas.


35 posted on 02/23/2013 1:19:52 PM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: absolootezer0

I don’t doubt there’s some nice areas; but, their existence does not change the fact that the city is in terrible decline. It should be used as a case study for other cities.


36 posted on 02/23/2013 1:25:19 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: lacrew

It should be the other way.. Lots of nice areas with little bubbles of poverty. Difference between the political parties.
I live in a small town.. There’s two blocks (on different sides of town) that are raunchy, and the occasional house that’s run down. Mostly a nice area.. But we go well over 70% republican. There’s the difference.


37 posted on 02/23/2013 1:41:38 PM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: absolootezer0
You remember flint being nice? When do you celebrate your 90th birthday?

You are way off. I am not yet 60. I bumped into my choir director in high school who is over 90 and he told me that the year I graduated, which was 1971, was the best year he had in his entire teaching career. He added that it quickly deteriorated shortly after that. He ended up leaving like everyone else did.

38 posted on 02/23/2013 11:08:42 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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That was kind of a joke..
I’m younger than you, and from lansing. I remember my dad having to commute in the 80s to flint and he always carpooled. I was much older before I understood why if the guy he carpooled with called in sick, so did he. There was no way he was going there alone.

Any time I have to go out that way, I pack an extra mag.


39 posted on 02/25/2013 9:46:14 AM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Olog-hai

40 posted on 02/25/2013 9:47:35 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Secret Agent Man

Robocop was filmed in Dallas.


41 posted on 02/25/2013 9:48:49 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: lacrew
A liberal will call this ‘white flight’ and blame them for all of Detroit’s problems.

And of course this "liberal" probably lives in a gated community.

42 posted on 02/25/2013 9:50:48 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: absolootezer0

I worked in downtown Detroit for a few months back in the late 80s....My first day on the job, my boss tells me, “I don’t want to see you in this office past 4:30”. It was pretty much understood that you had to get out of dodge before sunset.


43 posted on 02/25/2013 9:53:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: absolootezer0
I left in 1975. Flint really began to go in the toilet shortly thereafter. I lived on the west end, which was the nicest area.

It is a shame but ya just can't do much with ghettoes inhabited by demoncraps.

44 posted on 02/25/2013 4:31:12 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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