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The 60th vote: Republican Richard Shelby to vote for cloture on Hagel; Update: Deb Fischer too?
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Posted on 02/21/2013 2:12:09 PM PST by Perdogg

The 60th vote: Republican Richard Shelby to vote for cloture on Hagel; Update: Deb Fischer too? posted at 2:01 pm on February 21, 2013 by Allahpundit And so, after days of accusations about what Hagel did or didn’t say at Rutgers Israeli control of the State Department, and despite the nominee’s refusal to let reporters pick through his archives, this guy’s actually gaining votes in the Senate rather than losing them.

I understand the argument that the president deserves deference in his cabinet picks, even if I don’t agree with it in this case. But if we’re going to cave, can we at least not sugarcoat Hagel’s incompetence? This is pure garbage from Shelby:

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1 posted on 02/21/2013 2:12:19 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

The pre-tea party Republicans stabbing common sense in the back yet again.


2 posted on 02/21/2013 2:15:13 PM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Perdogg

sickening


3 posted on 02/21/2013 2:17:41 PM PST by clintonh8r (Happy to be represented by Lt. Col. Allen West)
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To: Perdogg

Traitor!!

Let me guess....he's not up for re-election til 2016. Johann is supporting Hagel, too. Johann retiring after this term. Why am I not surprised at how these turncoats (continue) to operate?

4 posted on 02/21/2013 2:21:40 PM PST by Jane Long (Whew...good to be back in FR Realville. Thanks Jim & John)
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To: Perdogg

I knew Shelby was not to be trusted. I’ve been saying this for years.


5 posted on 02/21/2013 2:24:06 PM PST by Jemian
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To: Perdogg

Ms. Fis(c)her, not sure of the spelling, probably fears there would be hell to pay from irate Cornhuskers if she voted to block Hagel.


6 posted on 02/21/2013 2:25:16 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Theodore R.

Hagel is not particularly liked in Nebraska. That’s why he quit. If Fischer votes for cloture I’d bet money it’s because the R leadership told her she’ll do it or never get appointed to anything.


7 posted on 02/21/2013 2:35:22 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Perdogg

The 20th Amendment says that if someone “fails to qualify” to be President, they cannot “act as President”. The HI state registrar has indirectly confirmed that Obama has no legally-verifiable birth facts and thus could not have qualified. Congress disobeys the 20th Amendment if they allow an up-or-down vote of ANYBODY nominated by Barack Obama, because the only person Constitutionally able to nominate ANYBODY at this point is Joe Biden.

I called both Mike Johanns and Deb Fischer and told them that. I hope everybody else will do the same with their Senators.


8 posted on 02/21/2013 2:45:41 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Perdogg

Without searching, which state is he?


9 posted on 02/21/2013 2:50:15 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Perdogg

IMHO I think Obama wants Hagel to do to the DoD what Obama has already done to NASA.


10 posted on 02/21/2013 2:53:05 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: Perdogg

As a party, the GOP is committing suicide. The shear weight of the Obama Administration in a second term is breaking the weaker reeds and, come 2014, the GOP likely is to be blown away by the Communist, Socialist, Marxist tide. If that happens, the last two years of the Obama second term will assure that the names of each of these GOP quisings will be chizzled on the tombstone of the USA.


11 posted on 02/21/2013 2:56:51 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Perdogg

The Senate, in the end, is a Go Along, Get Along club. Hagel is “one of their own” and that’s all that matters.

What’s sad is that all the hooplah before was just showboating. It seems like one crazy statement after another that Hagel has made, and a poll out yesterday showing Hagel’s negatives are skyrocketing, and now all of a sudden these Republicans are ready to rubberstamp him?

We have no opposition party in America anymore. No accountability, just giving Obama everything he wants is all that matters.


12 posted on 02/21/2013 3:01:22 PM PST by CountryClassSF
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To: fwdude

Alabama


13 posted on 02/21/2013 3:03:54 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Perdogg

He can nominate whoever he wants, doesn’t mean we have to give horrible choices cloture.

They are sellouts. No guts. They just can’t believe what is actually going on around them, they willingly refuse and they sell out and cave in. They just can’t bring themselves to take the hard road we want them to take.

They truly have abandoned conservatives and in particular, Christian conservatives.

We are on our own. Probably been that way in reality for awhile. Really seeing it now though.


14 posted on 02/21/2013 3:04:40 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Robert DeLong

Unbelievable.

Hope he’s gone in his next election.


15 posted on 02/21/2013 3:05:19 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Perdogg

and then on final vote he’ll get 90


16 posted on 02/21/2013 3:06:01 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Jemian

Over 90 percent of these folks are finger in the wind, self serving business as usual politicians.

These politicians can vote for Hagel giving their 2014 election colleagues and Rubio (running for president) cover to vote No while the nomination goes through anyway.


17 posted on 02/21/2013 3:13:16 PM PST by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Perdogg
Next four years Clown & Hagel will absolutely decimate the military and their defense contractors. Don't look for the Congress to stop them - THE SENATE HAS A PARTIAL CHANCE RIGHT NOW AND THEY REFUSE.
18 posted on 02/21/2013 3:15:29 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Perdogg
Glad to see the Stupid Party holding feet to the fire........suckers.

Remember that when you start receiving the the pleas begging for money to assist their mid-term reelection campaigns so they can continue to screw you over.

19 posted on 02/21/2013 3:45:17 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Perdogg

FBI files or do the Senators fear something else?


20 posted on 02/21/2013 4:14:15 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Repeat Offender

Shelby knows that he does nothing for the money he rips off from the American taxpayer. And he knows they keep electing him time and time again. He knows a moron can be elected to political office. He knows Goober Bagel is a moron. I would suspect the runhead is Selby’s drinking buddy. Drinking buddies like to look out for each other. With the selection of Goober to lead the Def Dept, the cat is out of the bag on competence in government agencies. It is not required. And experience is not required. The babbling, stammering, studdering drunkard Pvt Bagel to lead the Def Dept is proof positive.


21 posted on 02/21/2013 4:15:59 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Perdogg

Off with his head!!


22 posted on 02/21/2013 4:40:13 PM PST by LUV W (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: Perdogg

Richard Shelby is a RINO and has been for at least 15 years. I knew that when he replied to an email I sent him years ago about getting us out of the UN. He totally was in the tank for the UN then and he hasn’t changed.


23 posted on 02/21/2013 5:03:27 PM PST by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: lormand

Pointless. The McInsane/Linseed axis has already declared defeat, so I don’t know why Shelby would do this. Maybe he’s the tip of that spear. Hagel will get in, by a lot. One by one the Senators will fall in line. Just like with Kerry.


24 posted on 02/21/2013 5:09:04 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

There’s a Bloomberg Poll out today showing Obama at 55% positive job approval, a three year high and the Republicans in Congress at 35% positive approval, a three year low.
The average voter who doesn’t follow politics very closely goes with the winners and they don’t like the losers.
If the Republicans cave in on every issue, they are perceived of as the losers and therefore they are unliked.
For image sake alone, they should stand fast and win some political victories.


25 posted on 02/21/2013 5:44:21 PM PST by Nero Germanicus
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To: Nero Germanicus
There’s a Bloomberg Poll out today showing Obama at 55% positive job approval, a three year high and the Republicans in Congress at 35% positive approval, a three year low.

I don't know about the Obama number, but the Congress number of 35% is total BS and makes me doubt your poll. It's more like 15-18%. 35% would be a world-wide sensational boost.

26 posted on 02/21/2013 5:58:03 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Perdogg

I’d like to apologize to everyone for Richard Shelby, God knows I didn’t vote for him, and God knows he’s gonna help screw us all.


27 posted on 02/21/2013 8:43:06 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Perdogg

The Republicrat party wins again. We need to stop being surprised. The entire system is being taken down, and they want a RINO to be in charge of the military when it all goes in the dumper.

The only issue is whether Hagel would order troops to:

1. Stand down against the civil guard force;
2. Use the Military against the US Citizens by using it to spy on civilians; and
3. fire against American Citizens.

Apparently, the Ben Ghazi questions have all been satisfactorily answered: “Yes,” “Yes,” and “Yes.”

I hope the first to suffer are those who voted to eliminate our freedoms.


28 posted on 02/21/2013 9:30:51 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Perdogg

I will pay 500.00 to any reporter that has the balls to ask Obama or Carney in front of cameras....”How do you sleep at night knowing you are taking apart and dismantling the greatest country in the history of man?”


29 posted on 02/22/2013 12:58:00 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: Perdogg

I’m fast losing my ability to care anymore. I no longer feel represented in that den of thieves in DC. Screw ‘em all.


30 posted on 02/22/2013 7:21:06 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Secret Agent Man
We are on our own. Probably been that way in reality for awhile. Really seeing it now though.

There truly needs to be a real opposition political party. The GOP isn't interested in standing against Obama anymore.

31 posted on 02/22/2013 7:23:32 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: CountryClassSF

The Senate, in the end, is a Go Along, Get Along club. Hagel is “one of their own” and that’s all that matters.


I guarantee you if Bush had put up this a weak candidate Reid and Schumer would not have “gone along to get along”. That right there is the problem. Dims brawl while the GOP plays by Marquees of Queensbury rules. Guess who wins?


32 posted on 02/22/2013 7:33:56 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Dims brawl while the GOP plays by Marquees of Queensbury rules. Guess who wins?

I'd be happy to at least see the GOP fight to MoQ levels. They won't even do that. And when Obama nominates Van Jones or some other hard-core radical to tip the balance of the Supreme Court, the Gelded Old Party will cave just as easily.

33 posted on 02/22/2013 7:44:07 AM PST by ScottinVA (Gun control: Steady firm grip, target within sights, squeeze the trigger slowly...)
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To: Jemian

“I knew Shelby was not to be trusted. I’ve been saying this for years.”

What does one expect from someone who was a demoncrap?

He needs to be removed from office IMO.


34 posted on 02/22/2013 11:56:50 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Slaving away so obama supporting deadbeats can play)
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To: Perdogg

89-10


35 posted on 02/22/2013 12:02:46 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Perdogg
I understand the argument that the president deserves deference in his cabinet picks, even if I don’t agree with it in this case.

This "President" deserves no deference of any kind.

36 posted on 02/22/2013 12:05:17 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Perdogg
Republicans snatching defeat from the jaws of victory again?

-PJ

37 posted on 02/22/2013 12:17:50 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Perdogg

What a wretched bunch the Republicans have become. Only THREE of them voted against traitor John Kerry. Disgraceful. Bob


38 posted on 02/22/2013 3:24:45 PM PST by alstewartfan ("You looked like a still From Cecil B DeMille When I saw you Waiting at my door." Al Stewart)
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To: butterdezillion

You really called and told them that? I cannot imagine their reaction when they got off the phone with you. Amazing.


39 posted on 02/22/2013 4:08:04 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: Jemian

I am with you, Jemian.. I have never trusted him. And hello to you. It is always good to see you. I hope you are well.


40 posted on 02/22/2013 4:09:24 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

Hello back! Right now, hubby and I are in our overseas home. Yes, we are well. Hubby just spent two weeks in a remote location discipling 10 of our high school students. I am teaching 6 and 7 Bible. Pray for one of our students especially. The family follows another, quite peaceful, religion. Pray I present Jesus winsomely.


41 posted on 02/22/2013 4:22:36 PM PST by Jemian
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To: Jemian

You will be remembered in my prayers, Jemian. I cannot think of anyone who can present our bible and Jesus better than you. Prayers for you and your family.


42 posted on 02/22/2013 4:25:21 PM PST by DallasSun
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To: DallasSun

We should focus on someone like Lindsey Graham. If you can not convince your fellow republipussies to hold you are responsible based on your previous actions. If Hagel is confirmed you are done Lindsey. We all need to send a message. Focusing on a Rupublipussy like Graham might be what is needed


43 posted on 02/22/2013 6:41:16 PM PST by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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To: DallasSun

We should focus on someone like Lindsey Graham. If you can not convince your fellow republipussies to hold you are responsible based on your previous actions. If Hagel is confirmed you are done Lindsey. We all need to send a message. Focusing on a Rupublipussy like Graham might be what is needed


44 posted on 02/22/2013 6:41:16 PM PST by slapshot ("Were not gonna take it anymore" Twisted Sister)
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To: Repeat Offender

“Glad to see the Stupid Party holding feet to the fire........suckers. “

Is the Stupid Party even an accurate title anymore? It’s more like the Suicide Party.


45 posted on 02/23/2013 3:38:24 AM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: Perdogg

Shelby is an embarrassment to Alabama. He was a dim who jumped parties when he saw he could no longer win as a dim in this state. He is a puke. When he runs, I refuse to vote for him.


46 posted on 02/23/2013 7:20:03 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: lormand

To stab it, they have to have some grasp of it.

Anyway, the debate isn’t about what Hagel did or didn’t say, but about what he remembers saying. Did he recently have a “concussion”?


47 posted on 02/23/2013 3:46:24 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Why do you think the press has no access. He will never be openly questioned on tv. Never.

Not that any have the guts to ask him anyway, but they know that one could slip in.


48 posted on 02/25/2013 9:56:12 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: lwoodham

As an alabamian i am ashamed but not totally surprised. Shelby is a former democrat turned moderate republican Not an olympia snowe type RINO but RINO nonetheless on many things and not to be trusted. I have no idea why he gets reelected alongside a conservative like jeff sessions. He is entrenched I supposed like many others.


49 posted on 02/25/2013 12:33:30 PM PST by plain talk
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