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WNY suffering from loss of doctors
Buffalo Business ^ | Feb 14, 2013 | Tracey Drury

Posted on 02/16/2013 11:47:27 AM PST by george76

New York needs more than 1,200 physicians across the state, especially in rural areas, and the shortage is only expected to get worse if the state is to meet the federal health reform requirements.

That’s the gist of a new report by the Healthcare Association of New York State (HANYS), which Wednesday released the results of its 2012 physician advocacy survey, Doctor Shortage: Condition Critical.

Not including New York City, the state will need 1,200 new physicians, with nearly a third of the demand coming for primary care doctors. That’s up from 2011, when the report said 18 percent the need was in primary care.

The numbers were worse in the Western New York region, which lost 184 physicians year over year, more than any other region statewide.

Statewide, physicians of all specialties continue to be needed. According to the report, 32 percent of facilities had to either reduce or eliminate services due to the shortage, with three quarters of respondents north of New York City indicating that at times their emergency departments had no coverage for certain specialties, resulting in the need to transfer patients to other hospitals.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: New Jersey; US: New York; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: obamacare

1 posted on 02/16/2013 11:47:29 AM PST by george76
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To: george76
Obama: "We'll pay you doctors half of the fair market price for your labor. That'll save us huge amounts of money so we can balance the budget. AND we'll make you spend untold hours filling out our forms."

That's sure to fix any Supply and Demand imbalance. Price controls are known to work every time when you need to supply shortages. (\snark)

Like many people said yesterday, he should take the $1,000 / hour he's going to pay the Harmons for golf lessons and buy some basic economics lessons.

2 posted on 02/16/2013 11:52:54 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: george76

There are some good folks in Buffalo, but on a scale of places to live given the weather and the oppressive NY State government, no surprise that people with in-demand skills would sprint for the exits.

10 yrs from now the “progressives” will have the same wonderment about the whole United States. I expect the best and brightest of the med field to set up shop offshore.


3 posted on 02/16/2013 11:53:23 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: george76
I grew up in WNY and feel I've come home when driving through there. The school systems in the 50's and 60's were superior.

Would I move back there today? No way.

4 posted on 02/16/2013 12:02:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: george76
The conquering peoples (Third World people)through their masters are systematically dismantiling the system put in place by those who founded and once governed our nation.

We who are being mastered must learn to endure the sting of the new masters whip; i.e. Assaults, wealth confiscation(sack),insults, poverty, rape and lastly the serious health problems flowing from inferiority.

5 posted on 02/16/2013 12:18:05 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: george76

Two words: Pakistani doctors. We can’t afford to educate doctors in our schools, because they will have to charge more due to their student loan debt. So we’ll import them, after having been given a subsidized education by their own country. Of course, 96% of Pakistanis hate us now because we drone bomb them and their families, so the quality of care may go down slightly.


6 posted on 02/16/2013 12:30:16 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: george76
As WNY's population becomes poorer and older -- a direct result of the state's liberal politics -- doctors find it harder and harder to make a living. A substantial portion of their practice becomes Medicare and Medicaid recipients with the attendant low-reimbursement rates.

Liberals think it's great that everyone can have health care; they never gave a moment's thought to having the doctors to provide it.

7 posted on 02/16/2013 2:52:16 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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To: Holly_P

“WNY suffering from loss of doctors”

Job opportunity.


8 posted on 02/16/2013 4:06:57 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58
“WNY suffering from loss of doctors”

Job opportunity.

No thanks, I already have all I can handle.

9 posted on 02/16/2013 4:11:08 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: Graybeard58

In addition, there is not enough money in N.Y. to lure me there.


10 posted on 02/16/2013 4:12:27 PM PST by Holly_P
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To: BfloGuy

Obama’s answer;
http://www.usphs.gov/aboutus/

We will soon have a ‘nurse general’

no joke


11 posted on 02/16/2013 4:37:56 PM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Paladin2
I grew up in WNY and feel I've come home when driving through there. The school systems in the 50's and 60's were superior.
Would I move back there today? No way.

Double-down ditto.

This is not just for medical doctors. It's also for engineers and Ph. D.s in the real touchy-feely sciences. NY State is no place for conservatives or entrepreneurs.

Why Western New York State, especially Southern Tier locales? Because that's the only place where you'll find the remaining, slim bands of conservatives. They take the biggest hits from Albany.

(A former Southerntiersman)

12 posted on 02/16/2013 4:42:54 PM PST by imardmd1
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To: george76
New York needs more than 1,200 physicians across the state, especially in rural areas

The lefties don't want people living in rural areas anyway - they are more difficult to control and indoctrinate. They are apt to develope regressive traits such as thinking indepenently, praying, flying the American flag, owning guns and believing in the US Constitution.

As King Obama pointed out: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them".

It's much better to have them nove to cities where they can be closely watched and taught to progress beyond their old anti-social ways.


13 posted on 02/16/2013 5:49:48 PM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: george76

Doctors worth their salt should move their practice away from liberal States or retire early. Starve the beast.


14 posted on 02/16/2013 7:51:16 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: george76
Upstate NY is dying. Their are no opportunities for good, honest people. The Democrats have bled the area dry and left the people with a crushing tax burden and oppressive regulations.

People can't sell their homes. Most homes sell for about half their appraised tax value.

Upstate NY has gone from a beautiful, scenic area to an oppressive dysfunctional socialist state the crushes the human spirit. Those with ability and ambition leave. Those who stay struggle through live a miserable, depressed existence.

15 posted on 02/17/2013 8:33:55 AM PST by detective
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To: BfloGuy

Eventually they will have to “draft” doctors.


16 posted on 02/17/2013 8:43:47 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Vince Ferrer

To remedy the problem, the Governor will institute the Doctor Practice Assignment rule. That involves all doctors graduating from any medical school in the state of New York will be required after serving residency’s in New York or elsewhere to return to an assigned New York practice location or forfeit their degree. A provisional MD diploma will be provided to be replaced with a real diploma on completion of the assigned practice requirements


17 posted on 02/17/2013 8:44:10 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: detective

I remember some 20 years ago, I was working in Buffalo, and would go to Toronto on the weekends, it was amazing the difference once you crossed the border into Canada, the US side looked like the Third World in comparison.


18 posted on 02/17/2013 8:45:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Vince Ferrer
Of course, 96% of Pakistanis hate us now because we drone bomb them and their families, so the quality of care may go down slightly.

That's exactly what's going to happen. Look at the UK. They have imported thousands of "East Asian" Docs to fill all the gaps in the "NHS"

Some are competent but many are not fluent in English, their cultural norms are different ( forget Doctor patient confidentiality ) and they don't like the patient taking an active interest in their own treatment ( The Doctor knows best mentality)

Look for the Feds to modify the visa programs to fill the gap when the US MD's quit.

19 posted on 02/17/2013 9:32:44 AM PST by Timocrat (Ingnorantia non excusat)
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To: dfwgator
Eventually they will have to “draft” doctors.

Yes. And they will come from the same places that now supply our call centers. This is a prime example of how government interference causes out-sourcing.

Now, don't get me wrong. I do not believe we should make out-sourcing illegal. Not by a long shot. It is usually a rational decision made by hard-pressed consumers and producers.

But it wouldn't have to exist were it not for the distortions in the market caused by overweening government.

20 posted on 02/17/2013 1:55:48 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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