Skip to comments.Jeb Bush: I Would Govern Like LBJ as President
Posted on 02/16/2013 7:09:33 AM PST by JohnPDuncan
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Looted Social Security and set the precedent of adding its fund to the General Revenue...
Started the War on Poverty (we lost that one big time...)
Inflicted Medicaid and Medicare on the America People
Destroyed the black family
And Jeb wants to govern like him?
Goes to show how far the concerted efforts of the MSM and Democrats have moved the “center” to the Left.
what lessons can we learn from this headline-driven thread, where people comment on how awful LBJ was in order to pile on Jebbie??
Lesson 1, read far enough into the piece to learn that Jeb was not touting LBJ in any way BUT ONE. He admires LBJ for his “success” in getting things through Congress. Period. End of story.
Lesson 2, once we’ve settled what point Jebbie was ATTEMPTING to make, we decide whether or not the point was valid and/or whether or not it was a stupid thing to say.
My view: if you want to get a lot through Congress, if you think that’s needed, then his point is valid. However, these days, the only thing I’d like to see get through Congress is repeal of horrible laws. Such as Obamacare and a host of others. Point being, I wouldn’t trust Jebbie on WHAT he would be trying to pass.
In closing, it was a stupid thing to say, no matter what he meant by it. Just look at the headline by itself and how the headline-motivated kneejerks are reacting...
See my post #52.
(IF you dare...)
Well, doesn’t that just warm the cockles of your heart.
Yep, it looks like a race between two sides of the same coin, Bush vs Clinton. Talk about “Hobson’s Choice”.
*shakes head* it’s all over for us, isn’t it?
No more Bush people, they've aboiut destroyed the GOP. If Jeb gets the nomination, there will be an active 3rd Party. The RINOs destroy our chances, not the Tea Party.
I’d vote for Hillary over Jeb, I mean it. What a joke the GOP is.
Yep, it seems so....there’s some interesting stuff to be read about him.
Gasbags on the right and left, including that flapping mouth in the White House, could take a lesson:
“The words of a president have an enormous weight and ought not to be used indiscriminately”...
Another dem-wannabe, like McCain.
If those in the GOPe admire the Dems so much, why don’t they just jump to that party?
Two Bushes were two too many.
We sure could use a guy like that now.
He ain’t getting my vote, Communist
I remember LBJ. He did more damage to the US than anyone I can think of.
What, start as Vice-President and shoot your way to the top?
"The foundation of our Empire was not laid in the gloomy age of Ignorance and Superstition, but at an Epoch when the rights of mankind were better understood and more clearly defined, than at any former period. . . ." - George Washington, Circular to the States, June 8, 1783
" The foundations of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality, and the preeminence of free government be exemplified by all the attributes which can win the affections of its citizens, and command the respect of the world." - George Washington, First Inaugural Address, April 30, 1789
Or, consider this excerpted portion of the 1801 Inaugural Address of Thomas Jefferson for guidance on the seriousness of the undertaking:
(Excerpt) "Let us, then, with courage and confidence pursue our own Federal and Republican principles, our attachment to union and representative government. Kindly separated by nature and a wide ocean from the exterminating havoc of one quarter of the globe; too high-minded to endure the degradations of the others; possessing a chosen country, with room enough for our descendants to the thousandth and thousandth generation; entertaining a due sense of our equal right to the use of our own faculties, to the acquisitions of our own industry, to honor and confidence from our fellow-citizens, resulting not from birth, but from our actions and their sense of them; enlightened by a benign religion, professed, indeed, and practiced in various forms, yet all of them inculcating honesty, truth, temperance, gratitude, and the love of man; acknowledging and adoring an overruling Providence, which by all its dispensations proves that it delights in the happiness of man here and his greater happiness hereafterwith all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizensa wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities.
"About to enter, fellow-citizens, on the exercise of duties which comprehend everything dear and valuable to you, it is proper you should understand what I deem the essential principles of our Government, and consequently those which ought to shape its Administration. I will compress them within the narrowest compass they will bear, stating the general principle, but not all its limitations. Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political; peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none; the support of the State governments in all their rights, as the most competent administrations for our domestic concerns and the surest bulwarks against antirepublican tendencies; the preservation of the General Government in its whole constitutional vigor, as the sheet anchor of our peace at home and safety abroad; a jealous care of the right of election by the peoplea mild and safe corrective of abuses which are lopped by the sword of revolution where peaceable remedies are unprovided; absolute acquiescence in the decisions of the majority, the vital principle of republics, from which is no appeal but to force, the vital principle and immediate parent of despotism; a well disciplined militia, our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war, till regulars may relieve them; the supremacy of the civil over the military authority; economy in the public expense, that labor may be lightly burthened; the honest payment of our debts and sacred preservation of the public faith; encouragement of agriculture, and of commerce as its handmaid; the diffusion of information and arraignment of all abuses at the bar of the public reason; freedom of religion; freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of the habeas corpus, and trial by juries impartially selected. These principles form the bright constellation which has gone before us and guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation. The wisdom of our sages and blood of our heroes have been devoted to their attainment. They should be the creed of our political faith, the text of civic instruction, the touchstone by which to try the services of those we trust; and should we wander from them in moments of error or of alarm, let us hasten to retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety."
In the Year 2016, the question should be: which candidate possesses the intellectual qualifications to lead us to "retrace our steps and to regain the road which alone leads to peace, liberty, and safety"?
Names, anyone? Caution: must provide curriculum vitae, as for most employers!
Good one, FRiend!
Stay out da Bushes!
This is why a Republican wont be seeing the inside of the Oval Office for a long time.
I have stated numerous times that I do not expect to see another fair presidential election in my life time. The Rats have the fraud machine humming along perfectly.
Rand Paul 2016, the rest can go to hell (and probably will).
Rand has hinted on favoring amnesty. As if that is a solution. My tolerance for people supporting law breakers is over.
Governing like LBJ is HARDLY an endorsement!
Hell! Obama makes LBJ and Clinton(s)look like third rate amateurs when it comes to screwing citizens and taxpayers!!!
“If conservatives dont get pro active within the party we most certainly will end up with another RINO. Now is the time to join your local Republican party and start taking it back from the GOPe.”
Really? I’m not buying this will impact the national elections. Locally, maybe.
The problem is that conservatives are not wanted in the Republican Party, except to vote for RINOs. Ditto independents. Ditto Libertarians.
Conservatives are to the Republican Party, like Black Americans are to the Democrat Party. Both stuck on a plantation that wants money, work and obedience, but no equality.
Would that you could.
“Only a Bush could think of Lyndon Johnson in a good light.”
LBJ and the Bushes go way back. I presume they were friends. President George W. Bush even mention’s LBJ showing up to his grandfather’s (Senator Bush’s) mansion in Connecticut one Christmas in his book “Decision Points”.
Rand wants them to get in line like everyone else. The only difference is he wont make them leave the country and come back in 10 years. What’s wrong with that? He wouldn’t qualify them for welfare either and would secure the border.
I see things a bit differently. Hillary ( or whomever has the D next to their name) has a clear path to the oval office unless there is a real conservative in the race. Have the last two presidential elections really taught us nothing?
Jeb sounds like a man after Karl Rove’s heart!
Lincoln wins worst President walking away. It isn’t even close.
Out wit da Bushes.
I am starting to guess Sarah Palin is on the sidelines deciding whether to run as an independent or not.
Independent Presidential runs don’t produce national winners. It is better to work from within the party to select the most conservative nominee possible.
The last independent to win a state was George Wallace in 1968 with five states [AR, LA, MS, AL and GA], some 9 million plus votes [13.5%] and 45 Electoral Votes.
The one previous to that was Strum Thurmond in 1948 with four states, some 1 million plus votes [2.4%] and 39 Electoral Votes.
LBJ had their FBI files from J Edgar Hoover.
And this was when the “appearance of impropriety” actually mattered.
Jeb Bush is an idiot.
I really liked Jeb when he was my governor in Florida...
I guess the bloom is off the rose...
I think Jeb Bush would be a great President. He won’t be perfect, but certainly better than what we have, and better than Hillary or Bill Clinton. There is better choices out there, but they will be smashed to smithereens by the time the Primaries are over. Maybe if a semi-conservative (though Jeb I don’t know) pretended to be liberal, maybe we would win one, in the same fashion clinton and obama pretended to be centrist.
I think Santorum will be heavily involved in the next go around. Sadly Palin will be faded off into the sunset by then, she maybe part of the cabinet, if the next administration is smart.
Boy, do I wish we could find a candidate with the guts to voice such views. Immigration was intended to benefit the country, not to be the ultimate bank-breaking welfare system.
But I see how it’s trending. The GOP is going to go along with the compassionate amnesty crap, and conservatives who believe we have to do SOMETHING will be swept right along.
“Jeb Bush, please STEP AWAY from the deep end of the candidate pool...get back to the shallow end where you belong.”
Tom Tancredo was one of the few who wanted to deport illegals and he was for limited government too. Hope he runs again. That’s who we need
Answer: Just what we need after the current turkey.
Comment: LBJ and his contemporaries are responsible for initiating the policies leading to the current mess. He was a bad governor.
Have the last two presidential elections really taught us nothing?
They have. Because of crossover voting by liberals and the MSM brainwashing the uninformed voter, we will almost certainly never have another conservative candidate. I suspect the best we can do is have an American socialist-lite, like GWB. But Ill take one of those over what we have now anytime. (Do you really want our nuclear deterrent decreased? Do you really want hundreds of thousands or millions of illegals gaining instant citizenship and access to welfare?)
If we can start another party and get enough Congressmen to agree to cross-over if it wins, then and only then can we have another Reagan.
We also need to stop running the walking dead, like McCain and Dole.
In addition, candidates who poll really poorly and have no chance need to resign early in the primaries. (Yeah, I know, never happen.) As my dad pointed out, when McCain was running, I wasted my primary vote on a wonderful conservative who essentially took 5% of the vote from a more viable but further to the left candidate, who still might have been acceptable.
Theres a bit of gamesmanship and were getting beaten consistently because there is nobody like a conservative George Soros, funding the conservative side of the games. If we had that kind of money backing all kinds of conservative grass roots efforts like the liberals do, then we could have another Reagan, or a Palin.
The most ridiculous statement I heard this year.
There is a 100% certainty that Bush would be a terrible President.
The Bush family has shown themselves to be rabid Statists.
The two Bush's destroyed Conservatism.
I am deadly serious when I state that I would vote for the RAT candidate over Jeb. Jeb would follow up No Child Left Behind with , No ILLEGAL Left Behind. Amercia does NOT needy dynasties.
We expect the left to hate our Constitution. The damage done by the Bush's, with regard to limited government, is great.
Jeb would be a destructive, anti-Conservative President.
Yep, I agree with you. And the fact that Karl Rove threw him out of the White House is another positive in his column.
His parents actually called him LBJ Bush when he was younger
Hey Jeb, I won’t vote for you. I would probably not vote for any of your friends either.
Finally, a little honesty from a Bush.
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