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To: Olog-hai

You have a serious misunderstanding of the way America works. MacArthur refusing to abide by the rules Truman set up and being fired was a great thing by itself. (not to mention he was probably one of the absolutely worst Generals we ever produced)

But advocating that in order to follow Sun Tsu, Mac should have attacked China despite the orders of the President is lunacy.

You also badly skew George Washington’s intent in the reference to “being ready for war”. There is not the slightest evidence that he meant that to include wars where the USA does not have a national interest.

Washington would have been horrified to imagine the USA as being able to find some national interest in every single war on earth. He likewise would have been horrified at treaties solely designed to do nothing but drag us into wars that have nothing to do with us.

And last, none of the founders viewed the USA as a messianic nation that should try to meddle with and shape the internal look of every other nation on earth, beyond how they interacted with us.


38 posted on 02/15/2013 8:22:57 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Amusing coming from a defender of Putin. Never mind utterly mischaracterizing the USA to make it look just like the liberals try to make it look.


40 posted on 02/15/2013 8:25:05 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: DesertRhino

New world order, emanating out of European international banking, must be understood in order to know why the 20th century saw the number and type of wars that it did.

The Council on Foreign Relations directs US foreign policy, and it’s sister organization directs that of the UK. The CFR is the tool by which NWO manipulates US foreign policy. NWO successfully sought all America’s involvements in wars in the 20th century. An interesting primer on the subject is “Shadows of Power” by Perloff.

In Washington’s day, America was a colony. He actually advocated staying out of international entanglements for a few decades. He certainly would have realized that since America is the pre-eminent power in the world today that complete isolationism would work to America’s detriment today.

Of course, it is unwise, even for a major power, to be causing trouble, revolutions, wars, etc., that work to the ultimate detriment of the citizens of other nations. That’s where NWO comes in; they are the primary architects of that nonsense. A great example today is the so-called “arab spring”, a nwo operation. The Mideast, Africa, the Far East; they’ve all been manipulated by international banking ad nauseum, in everything from the Opium Wars to the Boer Wars to the slave trade, and of course, manipulations continue to this day.

It was very unfortunate that the founders sought European investment for the Revolution, but that was possible to overcome. During the 1800’s however, european international banking got its investment claws deeply sunk into America by financing, and profiting from, a lot of its development. The wealthy American “tycoons” became inextricably intertwined with international banking, ultimately resulting in the Federal Reserve, the foundation system, CFR, etc., making America, in effect, the leading subsidiary of new world order.

A key figure in this time is George Peabody, the “father” of the foundation system in the US, mentor of J P Morgan’s father and a key operator in the US for European interests, to say the least.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Peabody


46 posted on 02/15/2013 9:24:08 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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