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Chuck Hagel blocked: Still short of 60 votes
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Posted on 02/14/2013 8:09:50 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Chuck Hagel blocked: Still short of 60 votes By: Tim Mak and Manu Raju February 14, 2013 10:35 AM EST

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid announced Thursday that Republicans have informed him that they plan to block Chuck Hagel's nomination to be the next secretary of Defense over demands for more information from the White House.

Reid suggested that Democrats do not have 60 votes at this time to overcome Republican objections, leaving the nomination in limbo ahead of next week's Senate recess.

Complicating the situation still further was Reid’s announcement that the current holder of the job, Leon Panetta, would clock out later today.

"We do not have, at 12 o'clock today, a secretary of Defense," Reid said. “It’s tragic they’ve decided to filibuster this qualified nominee — it is really unfortunate.”

Democrats earlier appeared confident Hagel would be confirmed in the Senate, despite a bitterly partisan vote in the Senate Armed Services Committee and Republican efforts to delay, if not derail, a final vote in the full Senate.

But with Democrats controlling the Senate with just 55 votes, the former Republican senator from Nebraska needs a Republican lift to get the 60 votes needed to break a GOP filibuster. The vote to end debate is now set for Friday. A simple majority of 51 votes would be needed for confirmation, if debate is ended.

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1 posted on 02/14/2013 8:09:54 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

:-)!


2 posted on 02/14/2013 8:12:32 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Sub-Driver

And at 12 today, without Panetta we will do just fine, after his last 28k trip back to california,


3 posted on 02/14/2013 8:14:48 AM PST by JoanneSD
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To: Sub-Driver

And at 12 today, without Panetta we will do just fine, after his last 28k trip back to california,


4 posted on 02/14/2013 8:15:10 AM PST by JoanneSD
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To: Sub-Driver
So can he pass an executive order and legally install a member of his cabinet, an executive branch position?

Just thinking like Chavez, because that's who this president is emulating. Good bye middle class, just like Venezuela.

5 posted on 02/14/2013 8:15:29 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Sub-Driver

Not so many moderate republicans anymore that could be duped into voting for cloture in years past. Gone are Specter, Snowe, Brown, DeWine, Voinovich, Warner, Stevens, Hutchison, Lugar, Chafee, Jeffords, Dole, Bond, etc.

Oh, poor democrats.


6 posted on 02/14/2013 8:15:49 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: Sub-Driver
The divine Obama ended war - just ask him!

Why do we need a Secretary of Defense anyways???

7 posted on 02/14/2013 8:16:39 AM PST by grobdriver (Vivere liberi aut mori)
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To: Sub-Driver

Guess the RINOs have not been offered enough party invites yet.


8 posted on 02/14/2013 8:16:51 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: JoanneSD

Pvt Goober put on ice - for now.


9 posted on 02/14/2013 8:17:18 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Sub-Driver

“”We do not have, at 12 o’clock today, a secretary of Defense,” Reid said. “It’s tragic they’ve decided to filibuster this qualified nominee — it is really unfortunate.” “ BULLSH!T! This guy would just move up to “Acting” DecDef:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashton_Carter

Ashton would be a MUCH better pick as SecDef than Pannetta was or Hagal is!


10 posted on 02/14/2013 8:17:59 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Sub-Driver
It’s tragic they’ve decided to filibuster this qualified nominee — it is really unfortunate.

NO, REID, it's tragic that YOUR PARTY would try to get him through in the first place! How about selecting someone that is competent!! Oh, that's right. A competent person would threaten the power structure.
11 posted on 02/14/2013 8:19:07 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Sub-Driver
Reid suggested that Democrats do not have 60 votes at this time to overcome Republican objections, leaving the nomination in limbo ahead of next week's Senate recess.

He's lying. I don't know why he's lying this time, but I am sure he has the 60. There are at least five Pubbies (The usual suspects) that are going to vote for closure, and the Rats will vote in lockstep as they always do.

12 posted on 02/14/2013 8:19:48 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Zero will just deem the Senate in recess and appoint him.

The man is lawless.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 8:21:56 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Sub-Driver

Everything we’ve seen reported about Mr. Hagel indicates he would be one of the very last people fit to hold this job. Who knows, maybe the d***ed Senate is finally waking up to start doing its job????????????


14 posted on 02/14/2013 8:22:18 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Sub-Driver

Next week’s Senate recess = recess appointment?

That’s just the sort of bird-flipping we’ve come to expect from Obama.


15 posted on 02/14/2013 8:22:23 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: cotton1706

Wow till you see it in writing ,what a crew!


16 posted on 02/14/2013 8:26:20 AM PST by italianquaker
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To: Sub-Driver

Congress is taking their Presidents week vacation/ “RECESS” next week. I predict there wont be a vote on Hagel this week and Obama will “Recess Appoint” him next week. Might do it with his CIA Nominee also.


17 posted on 02/14/2013 8:26:42 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: US Navy Vet

To say that Carter is more qualified than Pvt. Goober is the understatement of the year. Goober has a BA in history, that’s it. He has also has no experience whatsover in military affairs. None. Nadda. Compare Pvt Goober’s resume’ to Carter’s. Like I said before Goober’s nomination was payback for trashing Bush for eight years and supporting the Kenyan King not once, but twice.

“Carter received bachelor’s degrees in physics and in medieval history from Yale University, summa cum laude, Phi Beta Kappa. He received his doctorate in theoretical physics from the University of Oxford, where he was a Rhodes Scholar.

In 1972, Carter graduated from Abington High School in Abington, PA where he had been President of the Honor Society”


18 posted on 02/14/2013 8:28:15 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If I remember correctly, the house stays in session and that ends that. I think that is what happened with his labor board picks. I am not sure though.


19 posted on 02/14/2013 8:29:01 AM PST by italianquaker
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Next week’s Senate recess = recess appointment?

Good call!
20 posted on 02/14/2013 8:29:57 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Sub-Driver

Can the Republicans object to the Senate recess and demand that the Senate stay in session?


21 posted on 02/14/2013 8:32:21 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Sub-Driver

Olympia Snowe deeply saddened.


22 posted on 02/14/2013 8:36:48 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cotton1706

Bond? Think again as he as turned into a money making RINO. Thank goodness that he has been replaced with another RINO, Blunt.


23 posted on 02/14/2013 9:02:07 AM PST by elephant
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To: Sub-Driver
"We do not have, at 12 o'clock today, a secretary of Defense," Reid said.

Actually, Dirty Harry, we haven't had one since January 20, 2009. All we had was a political hack working to neuter the effectiveness of the military at the behest of his boss.

24 posted on 02/14/2013 9:05:26 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Sub-Driver

“A simple majority of 51 votes would be needed for confirmation, if debate is ended.”

If I understand procedure correctly:

Reid will invoke Rule 22 and Cloture. Call a vote to end “debate” which requires only a majority (51). Then he can call a vote up or down on the nominee which then only requires a simple majority, or 51 votes. Hagel is approved.

Meanwhile, expect Dem-MSM to beat the drums on how stupid and careless the Old White Man’s Party is for putting the country’s defense at risk by their actions and also allowing the sequester to occur also weakening defense. It’s a Win-Win Dems. America loses.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/a/filibuster.htm


25 posted on 02/14/2013 9:10:37 AM PST by haffast (Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. -Abe Lincoln)
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To: italianquaker
If I remember correctly, the house stays in session and that ends that. I think that is what happened with his labor board picks. I am not sure though.

I believe the House will be gone as well.

The issue with the labor board picks was that Reid never adjourned the Senate as he wanted to extend the "first day" of the Senate to allow for rules changes.

Reid has done the same thing this year, so either Reid will make his rules changes and adjourn, or he will not do this and any "recess" appointments will be subject to the same Judicial ruling.

My prediction? Reid will institute filibuster rules changes and then adjourn. Then Obama will either make recess appointments or Reid and the Senate will approve Hagel and Brennan when they return with a simple 51 vote majority.
26 posted on 02/14/2013 9:11:36 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: haffast

Obama wants Hagel as the secretary of defense because he can count on him to be stupid enough to accept the blame for not defending Israel. Hagel is not really the brightest bulb on the tree.


27 posted on 02/14/2013 9:14:06 AM PST by Eva
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To: haffast
Call a vote to end “debate” which requires only a majority (51)

Reid schedules vote to end debate on Hagel nomination

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on Wednesday filed a motion to end debate and vote to confirm President Barack Obama's defense secretary nominee Chuck Hagel, setting the stage for a vote later this week.

Hagel's confirmation will require support from at least 60 senators to proceed to a vote, forcing Democrats to find at least five Republicans to overcome the procedural hurdle. Many Republicans, most notably Arizona Sen. John McCain and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, have voiced strong opposition to Hagel's nomination, citing a lack of information about the nominee.

Presidential nominees typically require a simple majority vote, but because of Republican opposition the chamber will need 60 to end debate, technically a filibuster.

"This is the first time in the history of our country that a presidential nominee for secretary of defense has been filibustered," Reid said when he made the announcement from the Senate floor on Wednesday. "What a shame. But that's the way it is."

Senate leaders are planning to hold the procedural vote on Friday. If Hagel passes the cloture vote, the Senate could debate for up to 30 hours before a final vote on his nomination.

28 posted on 02/14/2013 9:15:54 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

thnx


29 posted on 02/14/2013 9:22:50 AM PST by italianquaker
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

And bonehead will allow the senate to recess so it does not cause any problems.


30 posted on 02/14/2013 9:35:29 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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31 posted on 02/14/2013 9:44:11 AM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: italianquaker

And where/what are his labor board appointees right now?

Exactly. Right where it put them doing what he told um to do.


32 posted on 02/14/2013 9:45:31 AM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Roughly one-third of the Senate seats are up in 1.5 years.

For the Dems with terms up in 2014, they risk a vote that ties them to an (alleged at this point) anti-military SECDEF. Not what one wants biting them for re-election sound bites; and,

For the GOPers with terms up in 2014, the same risk, but for the primaries, one suspects.

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33 posted on 02/14/2013 5:30:04 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Sub-Driver

34 posted on 02/21/2013 9:28:06 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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