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Dresden deserves to be remembered
UK Telegraph ^ | 02/13/2013 | Tom Chivers

Posted on 02/13/2013 9:04:00 AM PST by Kid Shelleen

It's the 68th anniversary of the Dresden bombing. In Britain, we don't think about it as much as, perhaps, we should. The bare facts. More than 1,200 RAF and USAAF bombers attacked the city between the 13th and 15th of February 1945, in four raids. They dropped 3,900 tons of high explosive and incendiary bombs, killing between 22,000 and 25,000 people, almost all civilians. The city's anti-aircraft defences had all been moved to defend the industrial works of the Ruhr valley. The details are chilling.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anniversary; dresden; raf; wwii
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1 posted on 02/13/2013 9:04:03 AM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

It worked.


2 posted on 02/13/2013 9:05:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek


3 posted on 02/13/2013 9:09:40 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: cripplecreek
It worked.

LOL. I was thinking the very same thing.

War isn't what it used to be. War wasn't fought the way it is now. People today expect that only combatants will be killed. Civilian casualties are seen as media fodder.

Back then, it was the duty of a responsible citizenry to stand up against the idea of war, because it meant that any one of them could die by the enemy's gun. Today, "leaders" declare unilateral action against an enemy and expect everyone to get behind them.

4 posted on 02/13/2013 9:09:57 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: cripplecreek

Worked at what? Hampering the war effort by killing civilians and refugees? Not likely. In fact, you can make a decent argument that the fewer refugees around the easier it was for the Wehrmacht to operate.

But long after the fact moral denunciations give me a pain. Which is why I thought the Demanjuk persecution was so over the top.


5 posted on 02/13/2013 9:10:14 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Kid Shelleen
I keep hearing Germans apologizing for bombing London.

Not!

6 posted on 02/13/2013 9:10:45 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: cripplecreek

It’s called “War”.
One sides loses, the other side wins.


7 posted on 02/13/2013 9:10:45 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Go Galt!)
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To: cripplecreek
Amazingly some people survived ~ Kurt Vonnegutt jr. and a fellow named Eberhardt Rheimers ~ knew both of them ~ guys even lived in my neighborhood(s) at different times ~ Kurt while growing up, and Eberhardt as a buddy in a commuter group ~ he even helped me negotiate the deal or the commuter pick up operation in Springfield VA.

Two guys who witnessed it as young men and both of them thought of it as unecessary and inordinately brutal. The Brits knew that, not that it changed anybody's mind ~ after action surveys in bombed over civilian districts found that it simply strengthened their resolve to resist.

Now, tell me what part worked

8 posted on 02/13/2013 9:11:06 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kid Shelleen

I remember it was a city that sat on the thumbs while its leader took its country to hell just like we are today.


9 posted on 02/13/2013 9:11:06 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: cripplecreek

This “remembrance” is being forced mostly due to the neo-Nazis marching in that city and lying about the death toll (saying that up to 240,000 or more died).


10 posted on 02/13/2013 9:13:00 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Kid Shelleen

It was total war. And effective. Any sympathy I have is always tempered by the box cars full of Jews bound for Osweicum(sp?). A lot of civilians knew what was going on but did nothing..


11 posted on 02/13/2013 9:13:00 AM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: Kid Shelleen

A war crime that should have been prosecuted and everyone involved executed by firing squad.


12 posted on 02/13/2013 9:13:29 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: Kid Shelleen

Killing civilians: the elderly, women and children was an act of evil. God wasn’t pleased with the firebombing of innocents!


14 posted on 02/13/2013 9:14:36 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Funny how it was the last war America actually won.

I’m not real concerned with what the folks with retreating genitalia think.


15 posted on 02/13/2013 9:15:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Yes, I so well remember reading about how all those Luftwaffe bomber pilots had to expose themselves to additional risks in the sky above London in order to avoid hitting any civilian dwellings or bomb shelters back in 1940.

This is sarcasm most extreme.


16 posted on 02/13/2013 9:16:42 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: cripplecreek; TheRhinelander; IbJensen
Killing civilians: the elderly, women and children was an act of evil. God wasn’t pleased with the firebombing of innocents!


17 posted on 02/13/2013 9:16:57 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: US Navy Vet

These innocents weren’t responsible for the killing.

Besides, if you read your history you’ll find that the Brits bombed German cities first.

The senseless murder of the Jews was an act that was so shrouded in secrecy that the populace had no idea what was going on.


18 posted on 02/13/2013 9:18:02 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Part of the reason for this whining over the last decade or so is that the writers have never been in a situation that could be considered “Total War”.

May God continue to protect us from Total War. Amen.


19 posted on 02/13/2013 9:18:53 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: muawiyah
Now, tell me what part worked

How many wars has Germany started since?

20 posted on 02/13/2013 9:18:58 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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