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Three conservative justices absent themselves from SOTU
American Thinker ^ | 02/13/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 02/13/2013 6:59:48 AM PST by SeekAndFind

I'm sure it's happened before, but I can't recall any previous State of the Union speech where justices refused to attend based on disagreements with the president.

From Politico:

"The conservative wing of the U.S. Supreme Court was absent from President Obama's Tuesday State of the Union address.

Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia declined to join their six other colleagues at the prime time address to Congress.

During Obama's 2010 address, Alito was seen whispering the words "not true" during Obama's speech. Obama used his address to blast the court for their 2010 Citizens United case which altered the rules on corporate and union funding of elections.

In the aftermath of that speech, Alito complained that the justices were expected to sit in the House chamber "like the proverbial potted plant" and that it was now an awkward experience."

If I were a justice of the Supreme Court, I certainly would resent being used as a prop in a president's theatrical presentation. But, at bottom, the justices are a part of one of three co-equal branches of government. In that sense, attending the State of the Union is both a question of tradition, and a symbol of the majesty of the Constitution.

They should have been there.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alito; bhofascism; bhosotu; clarencethomas; fubo; obama; scalia; scotus; sotu; supremecourt
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1 posted on 02/13/2013 6:59:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

These unpleasant moments could be avoided if duels to settle matters of honor were still in vogue.


2 posted on 02/13/2013 7:01:51 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama is defying court rulings left and right.

Co-equal?

Ha!

I’m glad they chose not to attend.


3 posted on 02/13/2013 7:03:44 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank goodness,the gay ones showed up!


4 posted on 02/13/2013 7:09:57 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: txrangerette

It looked like Bonehead was not happy he had to sit through that mess too. I wonder if he had straight vodka in that water glass.


5 posted on 02/13/2013 7:10:25 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh yeah. I remember that, when Alito mouthed “not true”. And he was right but when the first lie gets out of the box, there’s no getting it back. Especially if hussein said it. Typical radical left wing extremist demokkkrat tactics. I didn’t watch last night, but I hear that hussein is going to order the climate to behave with an EO if congress won’t work with him.

Citizens United=EVIL.

Unions=rainbows, skittles, AZ ice tea, unicorns and fairy dust and everything is wonderful.

I think it was Mark Twain that said a lie can get half way around the world before the truth can put it’s pants on.


6 posted on 02/13/2013 7:10:38 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our Hipster Dufus president inspires no one...Only the lazy, no work, I want it all for nothing idiots are listening...The rest of us have had it up to here with his $hit!


7 posted on 02/13/2013 7:14:33 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Mouton

If you would be so kind as to post that stuff to someone else and leave me out of it, I would appreciate it.

I’m here to respond to the thread’s point.

That’s all.


8 posted on 02/13/2013 7:18:10 AM PST by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought it was customary for one member of each branch not to attend.

So this year three members of the SupremeCourt decided not to go. Why should they? Obama uses his speeches to castigate them.

There are a lot more things to worry about rather than who goes to hear the ramblings of this President. I bet most Americans didn’t watch.


9 posted on 02/13/2013 7:21:37 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: SeekAndFind

I disagree with the author. I don’t think Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito had an obligation to attend based on tradition or symbolism.

When the President of the United States of America regularly behaves as a dictator and tyrant who circumvents the United States Congress and the United States Constitution, it is incumbent upon those whose duty it is to uphold the Supreme Law of this land to stand upon their absence from the State of the Union Address as an act of symbolism.

Barack Obama does not respect the majesty of the United States Constitution. Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito should not pretend otherwise.


10 posted on 02/13/2013 7:22:32 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: SeekAndFind
“Obama used his address to blast the court for their 2010 Citizens United case which altered the rules on corporate and union funding of elections.”

“They should have been there.”

IMHO These two comments contradict each other. Who wants to be a captive audience and have obama ridicule and embarrass you in public AGAIN.......I don't blame em, I would have been absent also.

11 posted on 02/13/2013 7:23:57 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: FR_addict

RE: Why should they? Obama uses his speeches to castigate them.

I was half expecting Obama to praise the SCOTUS for not stopping Obamacare (in fact, I was half expecting him to point towards John Roberts in the process ).


12 posted on 02/13/2013 7:23:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

13 posted on 02/13/2013 7:24:04 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The lilly livered Rick Moran still thinks Obama is fair.

Enough said.


14 posted on 02/13/2013 7:25:20 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He did the same thing to Paul Ryan too. That’s why what Ben Carson did was so sweet.


15 posted on 02/13/2013 7:25:48 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: SeekAndFind
Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia declined to join their six other colleagues at the prime time address to Congress.

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Thank God for these three. I didn't watch it. Even a brief glimpse on TV of bho or his wife is nauseating to me.

16 posted on 02/13/2013 7:28:25 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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SCOOP

Alito’s mother died, that’s why he wasn’t there. FWIW.


17 posted on 02/13/2013 7:34:19 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: V_TWIN

“That’s why what Ben Carson did was so sweet.”

Cal Thomas said Ben Carson was rude to do it at the breakfast meeting and he should have used another venue.

I completely disagree. The press would never have covered what Ben Carson had said if it had been some other venue without the President being there. The press won’t do it’s job, so it’s up to individuals to do it for them.

Ben Carson is the MAN! Wish some of our politicians were as brave.


18 posted on 02/13/2013 7:35:02 AM PST by FR_addict
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For what it’s worth.......

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/us/state-of-the-union-can-be-a-trial-for-supreme-court-justices.html?_r=0

And it made two scholars, Todd C. Peppers of Roanoke College and Micheal W. Giles of Emory University, undertake heroic work to assemble a mountain of data for a study on trends in this area based on videos, photographs and newspaper articles.

They found that justices’ attendance had been falling. From 1965, when President Lyndon B. Johnson moved the address from the afternoon to the evening, through 1980, the attendance rate was 84 percent. Over the next two decades, the number dropped to 53 percent. Since 2000, the rate has fallen to 32 percent.

In three of those years, only Justice Stephen G. Breyer attended. In 2000, when Justice Breyer stayed home with the flu, no justice was present.

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19 posted on 02/13/2013 7:35:29 AM PST by deport
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To: SeekAndFind
They should have been there.

No, they shouldn't have been there, not after the shabby way that Obama and his flying monkeys have been treating the Court.

20 posted on 02/13/2013 7:35:42 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: jiggyboy
"Alito’s mother died, that’s why he wasn’t there. FWIW."

The American Thinker didn't even bother to find out. They are just too busy finding fault with conservatives.

I can't blame Justice Thomas for not going either. Obama has directly criticized him.

And Scalia probably didn't want to get sick.

21 posted on 02/13/2013 7:38:44 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: SeekAndFind

But the liberals, the one “moderate”, and the one who’s being blackmailed of course all attended.


22 posted on 02/13/2013 7:38:49 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: deport

Thanks for the history.

It even makes this story sillier. Just another excuse to criticize conservatives.


23 posted on 02/13/2013 7:41:32 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: jiggyboy

Oops — yes Alito’s mother died, but he hasn’t been there for three years now, indeed because it’s shabby politics:

As for Alito’s reasons for not attending, he said at an October 2010 event in New York that the State of the Union speeches have “become very political events and it’s very awkward for the justices,” who are not expected to show any response to any politically charged rhetoric.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/13/us-obama-speech-court-idUSBRE91C04020130213


24 posted on 02/13/2013 7:42:09 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: txrangerette

Touchy.


25 posted on 02/13/2013 7:45:37 AM PST by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Also hated it when Moran called out these three as ‘conservative’ justices.

As compared to the evolving (to ‘world standard’ living document interpretation) justices.

Nope, not biased at all.

26 posted on 02/13/2013 8:08:15 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He did talk to Roberts. I wonder what he said to him? Something about that Orly Taitz Supreme Court conference thing that’s happening, I believe, on February 15?

I guess Obama gave Roberts the message, both of them smiling all the while.

That’s when I decided I didn’t care to watch anymore. I was hoping that Scalia would show up wearing that Renaissance hat he wore at the inauguration.


27 posted on 02/13/2013 8:12:20 AM PST by goldi
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To: txrangerette

If you’re so stuck up as to be upset when someone posts to you then you might want to leave FR as that’s the entire point of this site.


28 posted on 02/13/2013 8:14:36 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why would a person subject themselves to oral lies that go unchallenged in real time? The perverted tradition of holding your tongue (But applause is allowed) smacks of irresponsible governance in a free society. The HOR is considered “the people's house” yet the Pres (Repub or Dem) is invited to poop all over the floor without real time admonishment.
29 posted on 02/13/2013 8:18:24 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: SeekAndFind
attending the State of the Union is both a question of tradition, and a symbol of the majesty of the Constitution.

They should have been there.

Horse manure.
The author should do a little homework and research the history of the "state of the union". Only in the past few decades has it become the red-carpet media circus it is today. Heck, at one time presidents had their "state of the union" written down and hand-delivered to congress. "Tradition"? What "tradition" is this author talking about? And what on earth does the Constitution have to do with the African communist, Ubama?

Good for those justices.

30 posted on 02/13/2013 8:28:52 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lazamataz

Observant.


31 posted on 02/13/2013 8:33:26 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: FR_addict
Cal Thomas said Ben Carson was rude to do it at the breakfast meeting and he should have used another venue.

Cal Thomas? There's a name I haven't seen in awhile...
If he's now making moronic comments like that, I wish he'd fade away for good.

32 posted on 02/13/2013 8:40:11 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: SeekAndFind
In that sense, attending the State of the Union is both a question of tradition, and a symbol of the majesty of the Constitution.

They should have been there.

BS. The State of Union Speech has nothing to do with the Constitution. For over a hundred years the President just sent a written address that was read before the House chamber. The Constitution only says that the President need to report "from time to time" on issues he considers important. It's a silly, worthless tradition.

33 posted on 02/13/2013 8:40:37 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Lancey Howard

Bingo. The SOTU message has degenerated to just another reality tv event.


34 posted on 02/13/2013 8:41:50 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Lancey Howard

...Starring President Camacho.


35 posted on 02/13/2013 8:47:29 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: NEMDF

Succinct.


36 posted on 02/13/2013 8:48:00 AM PST by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: SeekAndFind
They should have been there.

That is where we part company. In my opinion, the occupier of the White House corrupts everything he comes near. All decent individuals should keep as much distance as possible beween them and him.

37 posted on 02/13/2013 8:59:34 AM PST by sport
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To: Lazamataz

Accurate.


38 posted on 02/13/2013 9:05:02 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: SeekAndFind

“...Justices Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia declined to join their six other colleagues...”

It would appear that the Good Justices Alito, Thomas, and Scalia, did, in fact, perform the Time-Honored American Tradition of presenting a Giant Middle Finger to his Royal One-ness...

From a Grateful Nation, thank you, Justices Alito, Thomas, and Scalia.


39 posted on 02/13/2013 9:15:07 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NEMDF

Always.


40 posted on 02/13/2013 9:16:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (Republicans have the same policies as the Democrats, except for the part where they win elections.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Justices didn’t need to be there. Nothing in the Constitution requires their presence and it’s good for them to remind The One that he is not ominpotent and all-controlling.


41 posted on 02/13/2013 9:18:44 AM PST by MeganC (Liberals fool people by walking upright.)
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To: jiggyboy

Condolences and prayers up to Justice Alito.

Never easy to lose people you love.


42 posted on 02/13/2013 9:23:30 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Lazamataz

Exactly.


43 posted on 02/13/2013 9:32:59 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Mouton

Didn’t (couldn’t watch), but the one pic I’ve seen looks like Bonehead had a disgusted look on his face - from 0’s fibs and drivel. Not sure about the Wodka ;)


44 posted on 02/13/2013 9:44:42 AM PST by Jane Long
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To: txrangerette

bttt


45 posted on 02/13/2013 9:46:57 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: NFHale; jiggyboy

Mu condolences to Justice Alito on the passing of his mother.

Now, having said that, even if his mother were alive and healthy, I doubt if he would attend.

Alito has not been attending the SOTU for sometime and for good reason.

See here:

http://news.msn.com/politics/alito-again-absent-from-obamas-state-of-the-union-speech

and here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/us/state-of-the-union-can-be-a-trial-for-supreme-court-justices.html


46 posted on 02/13/2013 10:09:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This should, I doubt it will, but should be the start of a cascade of events. The zenith will be members of congress walking out (not as a stunt, like the rats do from time to time, but with no intention of returning). It will culminate in either peaceful secession, or war.


47 posted on 02/13/2013 10:11:51 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I disagree with the author. I don’t think Justices Scalia, Thomas, and Alito had an obligation to attend based on tradition or symbolism.

I'm with you.

48 posted on 02/13/2013 10:18:52 AM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: Lazamataz

Darn that PMS. It’s a killah! LOL!


49 posted on 02/13/2013 10:38:13 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And who could blame them for not attending....after Barry chastized them the last time....as if they were naughty little kids that had misbehaved....when all they did was uphold the frigging LAW.

Too bad there are only three now that have integrity. I’m sure Barry is working on that pesky little problem of those three dissenters as we speak.


50 posted on 02/13/2013 10:43:46 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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