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The most common pain killer ... is a killer
WorldNetDailyThe most common pain killer ... is a killer ^ | Feb 12, 2013 | Lee Hieb, M.D.

Posted on 02/12/2013 5:46:24 AM PST by wesagain

Take a close look through your medicine cabinet. First look for all the obvious Tylenol medications – Tylenol, Tylenol PM, Tylenol Cough and Cold, acetaminophen (the generic name for Tylenol), etc. Next, look for any prescription pain medications you may have such as Lortab or Hydrocodone/APAP – the APAP means Tylenol has been added. Check cold medications – Nyquil, Alka-Seltzer Plus, St. Joseph Aspirin Free and Zicam, etc. Any drug that has APAP, cet, or acetam as part of the name probably contains Tylenol. Notice how many of your medications contain acetaminophen/Tylenol.

This hunt is not just an academic exercise. Tylenol is the No. 1 reason for liver failure in America today – not because people are knowingly taking an overdose, but because they are being unwittingly exposed to acetaminophen from a variety of sources over a long period of time. The Tylenol people have done a great job of slipping their product into a myriad of commonly used drugs.

Instead of Lortab or other combination pain killers, I routinely give my patients plain Codeine after surgery, but until I specifically asked for it, my local pharmacy had no common prescription narcotic painkiller without Tylenol. Generally, pain medicine given post-op contains Tylenol.

Tylenol is marketed for two purposes – pain relief and as an anti-pyretic, i.e. it lowers fever. It is very effective in these regards, but with increased exposure, side effects are starting to emerge. In addition to liver failure – where the science is quite well worked out – Tylenol probably is bad for the brain and the kidneys.

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To: wesagain

Combining Tylenol with alcohol makes for a deadly combination. I once knew a woman who was an alcoholic and also took large doses of Tylenol for headaches. I warned her about this; I imagine others did too. But to no avail. She died of liver failure.


21 posted on 02/12/2013 6:44:38 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: Venturer
aspirin will ruin my stomach

I believe that aspirin will not ruin a stomach if taken with food. Aspirin that is not released until it is in the small intestine is available.

I believe if aspirin were invented today it would be heralded as a miracle pain reliever and would be sold for $3 or more per pill and only available by prescription. Aspirin is an amazingly effective pain reliever in my opinion.

However, to be effective for me and I would estimate all adults weighing more than 100 pounds the number of 325 mg pills needed will exceed the 2 or 3 pills prescribed for a 12 year old. Pain relief for me occurs in less than one minute and last six to eight hours. Pain relief from other more modern non prescription pain relievers takes effect in 10-30 minutes and begins to diminish within 1-3 hours.

22 posted on 02/12/2013 6:46:44 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: wesagain

btt


23 posted on 02/12/2013 6:47:51 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: wesagain

OK freepers, forget tylenol. Three words: enteric coated aspirin (brand is Ecotrin, and there are generics of the coating). Despite tylenol being called SEAL candy-SEALs are young.

Here’s what happens: the aspirin is coated by design with a PH sensitive coating that will not dissolve in your stomach (which is PH 1.7 or so very acid). The coating remains with the aspirin inside and travels into the duodenum which has a higher (less acid PH) of around 6, which the coating will break down and then the aspirin released,and this actually occurs near the end of the of the duodenum, then heads into the small intestine where the aspirin gets absorbed into the blood.

Tylenol has been pitched for years as “not harming the stomach” because it is metabolized in the liver— well THAT is where the toxins are developed from tylenol—the ones that can kill you. Tylenol is a very weak COX-2 inhibitor vs. aspirin which is the Gold Standard of non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs)-the one which all others are measured against.

So why all this tylenol pitch? Lots of people who have aches and pains also have heart/vascular disease and are on blood thinners (warfarin)—aspirin is hum dinger of a blood thinner and ADDs to effect of any blood thinner— SO your blood will be very thin and not clot ( you bleed,.
which is dangerous of course), anf tylenol does not. Aspirin has to be balanced, and there are warnings about use of aspirin in children (rye’s syndrome).


24 posted on 02/12/2013 6:54:41 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: wesagain
NEVER, NEVER take Predisone, except for very short times (2 weeks). The side effects are HORRIBLE! I have Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis. A lot of Pulmo specialist put these patients on Predisone, where the gain tons of weight, develop Diabetes, Osteoporosis, Cataracts and on and on. Thank God my doctor refused to prescribe it for me.
25 posted on 02/12/2013 6:55:35 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: ZX12R
I’m in my late 50’s and I have arthritis in my back, hips and knees. I also have several degenerating disks in my lower back, with one of them completely gone. I take the prescription drug Cymbalta, and it helps quite a bit for not being a narcotic. I also take about 1200 mg of aspirin a day for the inflammation, and it helps a bit too. I don’t like taking them regularly, but I occasionally still ask for narcotics, and get Vicodin, with the lowest amount of Tylenol that they offer.

I take a ton of medication, different pills for different symptoms...they all have possible side effects. But I don't think about the side effects, because without the meds, I wouldn't be unable to function and would be in pain (I have MS.) I even have a device implanted in my abdomen that deliver anti-spasticity medicine right to my spine, so my legs will move and not be so stiff.

The way I look at it, at this point, I'm more concerned about quality of life than quantity of life, and if meds allow me to live a semi-normal life, then it is what it is (I do have regular bloodwork to check liver/kidney function...and it's never been affected to this point.)

If a person says they don't take meds, I just figure they haven't run up against a health issue yet that cannot be managed any other way.

Some folks with my disease do fine with alternative therapies, but every person is different, and whether a person has to rely on medicine or not, should not be a reason to "judge" a person's fortitude, stamina, or will power.

Just my 2 cents.

26 posted on 02/12/2013 6:57:31 AM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: SumProVita

Bingo, my post 24 below. If you don’t have a conflict with coumadin.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 6:57:56 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: wesagain

tylenel ping


28 posted on 02/12/2013 6:58:39 AM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: OldPossum

I’m 70, and ran miles almost daily until I was almost 60. After I stopped running, i took up daily five mile walks. My health was pretty good, despite two triple bypasses. In the last six months my health has deteriorated significantly. I have severe spinal stenosis, herniated discs in my neck, neuropathy and an undetermined terrible pain in my left big toe that is so severe that I’d consider amputation. My liver is getting worse because of the Tylenol III pills that I take 3X daily, along with warfarin and BP meds. In walk with a cane. I have been known to have a wee drop o’ the creature from time to time. I go to a rehab clinic a couple of times a week and stretch regularly. But, I’m looking down at the lawn and not up at it, so....


29 posted on 02/12/2013 7:00:01 AM PST by Ax
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To: MosesKnows

Tylenol plain does nothing for my pains.Once took Tylenol 3 with codeine-now that worked really well.Excrutiating back pain completely gone but not ,of course,the underlying reason,a herniated disc.

I did discover Tylenol is deadly to dogs after my little beagle died within an hour of giving her some for injuries;we had given aspirin to other injured dogs and they did fine.(My father’s doctor had told my father aspirin was bad for his stomach and to take only Tylenol,so my father didn’t allow any more aspirin in the house!

For my headaches,general aches and fever, I trust plain (or coated) aspirin .It works and it has a long history.And it is cheap.


30 posted on 02/12/2013 7:00:17 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: sneakers

Hubby and I just take a 1,000mg pill twice a day. You do NOT cook with it. My friend does a swig straight from the bottle, but I can’t stand that.

vitacost.com has the best prices and a $5 flat shipping rate no matter how much you order. I try to bulk up on supplements twice a year so save money on shipping.


31 posted on 02/12/2013 7:01:32 AM PST by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: memyselfandi59

When my daughters were young, before aspirin became a concern as a fever reducer, our pediatrician told me the guideline for dosing was 1 grain of aspirin for every ten pounds of body weight. That advice made my life so much easier.


32 posted on 02/12/2013 7:06:14 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: wesagain

Sounds like a good idea for me, alzheimers is in my family.


33 posted on 02/12/2013 7:07:51 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Kozak
The point of the story is that the medical industry has covered up the effects of this drug so that people do not know of this danger and cannot make a smart health decision.

It's the same with the sugar industry covering up the effects of refined sugar, high fructose corn syrup etc. on the brain - they don't want people to know the truth.

34 posted on 02/12/2013 7:54:41 AM PST by wesagain (The God #Elohim# of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: wesagain

After I had an MI july of last year, I was put on Pradaxa, after using it for a couple of weeks I had a BM and there was a lot of blood.

I stopped taking it and went to the hospital, they took me off Pradaxa, I had to receive four blood tranfusions.

After I was stable, I was put on Plavix which has it’s own set of problems but, so far, no problems.

Some people have no problem with Pradaxa, I just wasn’t one of them.


35 posted on 02/12/2013 8:00:02 AM PST by RetSignman ("...a Republic if you can keep it")
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To: Venturer

***Doctor told me not to take naproxen,****

I will not take anything with naproxen (Naperson) in it. My mom talked her doctor into perscribing naperson for her arthritis. He warned her that he would have to monitor her kidneys close. One dose killed her kidneys dead. She died a few months later of renal failure.


36 posted on 02/12/2013 8:09:42 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Too old to cut the mustard any more.)
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To: RetSignman

“...Pradaxa...Plavix...”

All of these anticlotting drugs are dangerous, including Hepirin and Warfarin. DMSO is safe. DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide) is a natural substance that comes from trees. It will not only prevent clotting if used regularly, but it also dissolves clots. DMSO can stop a stroke and prevent serious after-affects. Can’t find it? Go to an animal health store, they will likely have it. DMSO has many other uses/benefits...it should be in every medicine cabinet.


37 posted on 02/12/2013 8:14:57 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: ZX12R

I will never take cymbalta again. I was put on it for chronic pain also and the side effects were horrible! You have to wean off cymbalta really slowly! If you’ve taken it for more than a year (some people still have problems like this after only taking it for 3 months), the withdrawal symptoms can last as long as 6 months or more before you stop feeling like you have the flu all the time.

Many people who wean off of cymbalta properly still have the discontinuation syndrome and have to take prozac to counter it. Prozac is prescribed because of its long half-life. Many people have had success with this remedy for cymbalta withdrawal symptoms.

My pain doc said go ahead and stop taking it (without weaning off). Boy, what a mistake - felt sick for the better part of 4 months - even while taking Benadryl to help with the cymbalta discontinuation syndrome from not weaning off of it properly. I was not able to get prozac prescribed to help...

YMMV


38 posted on 02/12/2013 8:15:13 AM PST by jurroppi1
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To: wesagain; Kozak

“The point of the story is that the medical industry has covered up the effects...”

Please note...the FDA is not in the business of protecting ‘we the people’. The FDA is in the business of protecting the pharmaceutical industry...BIG PHARMA. Watch the Drug ads on TV...and there are many of them...pay attention to the warnings...they are all deadly. And all their drugs and treatments are treating symptoms only...it is not about curing or preventing disease. We avoid ALL prescription medications. There are natural alternatives that have no side effects and that treat the disease, not just the symptoms.


39 posted on 02/12/2013 8:24:23 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: jurroppi1
I will never take cymbalta again. I was put on it for chronic pain also and the side effects were horrible! You have to wean off cymbalta really slowly! If you’ve taken it for more than a year (some people still have problems like this after only taking it for 3 months), the withdrawal symptoms can last as long as 6 months or more before you stop feeling like you have the flu all the time. Many people who wean off of cymbalta properly still have the discontinuation syndrome and have to take prozac to counter it. Prozac is prescribed because of its long half-life. Many people have had success with this remedy for cymbalta withdrawal symptoms. My pain doc said go ahead and stop taking it (without weaning off). Boy, what a mistake - felt sick for the better part of 4 months - even while taking Benadryl to help with the cymbalta discontinuation syndrome from not weaning off of it properly. I was not able to get prozac prescribed to help... YMMV

Wow, that sounds like a nightmare. Luckily, I haven't had any side effects, but I did suffer a bit when I quit taking it once cold turkey, but it wasn't anything like you describe. I wanted to stop taking it for awhile, to see if it was the Cymbalta making me better, or if I had just gotten better. It was the Cymbalta. I understand that you're suppose to wean off it slowly, but it also takes about a month to start working also.
40 posted on 02/12/2013 8:27:04 AM PST by ZX12R
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