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Boy Scouts Say Gay Debate Was Ignited by a Leak
New York Times ^ | Feb. 8, 2013 | KIRK JOHNSON

Posted on 02/12/2013 5:30:47 AM PST by libstripper

A leak from inside the Boy Scouts of America last month about discussions on possibly ending the group’s national ban on gay members changed the debate itself by creating an impression that change was imminent, according to scouting officials and taped comments from a meeting of scouting’s executive board obtained by The New York Times.

Those apparently false expectations were dashed days later when the board, under intense scrutiny it had never intended, deferred action.

The proposed shift in policy has been portrayed in news accounts mostly as a kind of trial balloon, floated to gauge sentiment about where scouting might go on a hugely divisive question. But the proposal, though seriously in consideration, was not supposed to become public at this moment, Scouts officials confirmed. The plan for the meeting this week was a quiet discussion behind closed doors, they said, free from the outside pressures that have buffeted scouting, especially since summer, when the organization reaffirmed its ban on gay scouts and leaders after a two-year review.

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KEYWORDS: boyscouts; homosexualagenda; homosexuals
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"Why don’t the gays just start a twinkie scouts organization and be done with it?"

Because that wouldn't destroy the BSA, which is their primary objective.

The objective of the liberals is to destroy any and all organizations built on moral and patriotic values.

21 posted on 02/12/2013 7:25:07 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: theBuckwheat
In their complaint about the loss of corporate sponsors, are the present leaders of BSA telling us they are willing to bend morality for the sake of money? What kind of message and example does this set for the young people in Scouting? They disqualify themselves by this complaint.

There is the root of this, as usual. Always follow the money. The two corporate leaders on the board that are the center of this effort fail to understand the difference between what corporations have to do under threat of law and what a volunteer organization has been affirmed to be able to do by SCOTUS. Any decision that pushes this choice down to the unit/troop/chartering organization level will result in most choosing not to renew charters in order to avoid the liability. Less units = less Scouting opportunities = less Scout membership so the organization dries up to be only a memory.

Another article said attorneys have told the board to expect another legal challenge that might fail at SCOTUS since the last vote was 5-4. I'd say going down fighting is an honorable choice that would be supported by most parents and volunteer leaders.

22 posted on 02/12/2013 7:28:06 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: libstripper

So, why did they “defer” action if the debate was overblown?


23 posted on 02/12/2013 8:12:18 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: libstripper

Ironic, considering the first point of the Scout Law is Trustworthy.


24 posted on 02/12/2013 8:20:48 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: libstripper
...especially since summer, when the organization reaffirmed its ban on gay scouts and leaders after a two-year review.

Which begs the question, "So then why were they still talking about maybe letting homosexuals take little boys off into the woods?"

25 posted on 02/12/2013 8:28:05 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: libstripper
Lettuce remember this is the 96.6% (us) vs. the 3.4% (them).

Queers: "We are the 3.4%."

It would appear the BSA was going to pull a fast one and got found out. Just the idea they would consider doing this, especially after coming out so strongly against the queers last summer, pretty much dooms them in my eyes.

26 posted on 02/12/2013 9:27:37 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

“If we believe anything the NYT prints....”

Read the article. They actually don’t say the whistle blower blew the attempted scam. Instead you have to read it carefully and see how they wrote around the fact that a whistle blower stopped this. It’S much like their several articles on the deteriorating medical condition of Teddy Kennedy where one had to read carefully, look for code words, translate them, and realize Teddy was on a fast train to a very HOT PLACE.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 9:53:21 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Sybeck1

OK, you’ve mad me confess my ignorance. What’s a “pinewood derby.”


28 posted on 02/12/2013 9:55:54 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Check the urban dictionary.


29 posted on 02/12/2013 9:59:50 AM PST by sport
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To: libstripper
Pinewood Derby is a yearly competition between Scouts in a regional area, racing little cars made out of a block of pinewood.

The Scouts must build their own car from a 'kit' that they buy. All kits are exactly the same, and strict rules are followed. The Scouts develop certain skills in trying to get just the right shape, just the right balance, the most friction free axles, and (it used to be) done in a 'father-son' partnership.

And that was the point. It helped to get fathers involved 'with' their sons Scouting Activities.

The fathers built the 'track' these gravity propelled cars race down. My Dad and his friends (other Scout fathers) built the first Electronically timed track to be used in our Regional Area. And they did it in our basement. Which was very edumakational.

30 posted on 02/12/2013 10:56:21 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: libstripper

NEVER believe the NYT.


31 posted on 02/12/2013 11:20:57 AM PST by what's up
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