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Pope Benedict XVI 'is to resign'
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Posted on 02/11/2013 3:11:37 AM PST by Sub-Driver

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To: EBH

No. Not at all. Just the opposite. I think he wants to avoid a repeat of what happened with JP2. I adore Pope Benedict, and I’m sad to see him resign, but I have to believe that he has prayerfully asked for guidance from the Holy Spirit.


51 posted on 02/11/2013 3:57:22 AM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: momtothree

LOL.

Popes with swords! Run for the hills!!


52 posted on 02/11/2013 3:58:34 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: EBH

Three days of darkness, the chastisement, etc.

But that means the great Monarch has already happened (if I remember right). Who would that be?


53 posted on 02/11/2013 4:04:06 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Perdogg

Edward Caycey named all the Popes in order up through John Paul. He then indicated one more (and last) Pope after that.


54 posted on 02/11/2013 4:04:28 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: Biggirl; sunmars

His brother in a statement confirms the Pope’s bad health as the reason, saying “Das Alter drückt”, i.e. that the pressure of his age has caught up with him.

Of course one can speculate: Is it cancer? Does he know / feel that he will die soon? Or has it just been opportune timing to best position the successor he has in mind?

Many expected JPII to resign because of health and there were sound reasons to do so (with all the insecurity a moribund Pope causes for the leadership of the church). He chose not to do so in order to set an example. Ratzinger was a close ally of JPII and his role was crucial during the time of JPII’s illness. I think both decisions deserve respect. Albeit for different reasons (to show that illness and death is a natural part of live - vs. - to show that the office and the church are bigger than any one men).


55 posted on 02/11/2013 4:06:21 AM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: Biggirl

The last pope to resign was Gregory XII in 1415.


56 posted on 02/11/2013 4:07:13 AM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Pope resigns - news at XI


57 posted on 02/11/2013 4:08:07 AM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Amen I say to you, when you were young, you dressed yourself and went where you wished. But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands and another will dress you, and lead you where you do not want to go.” (John 21:18)


58 posted on 02/11/2013 4:11:33 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m not a Catholic, but I agree.

Benedict was a conservative, and good for pro-life Catholics.


59 posted on 02/11/2013 4:12:38 AM PST by Mrs.Z
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To: EBH

“So...now we wait to see if Saint Hildegard and the comet are true...”

Can you fill in some details for us Protestants?


60 posted on 02/11/2013 4:13:57 AM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Perdogg

LOL, very nice.


61 posted on 02/11/2013 4:15:24 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: bluecat6

Saint Malachy did it a bit earlier than Edward Cayce.

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp


62 posted on 02/11/2013 4:16:38 AM PST by EEGator
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To: djf

“Is he not, according to the Malachi Martin prophecy, the last Pope before the final one, Petrus Romanus?”

You have confused Saint Malachy with the 20th Century priest and author, Father Malachi Martin.

However, in his last completed book “Windswept House”, “the Slavic Pope” does resign, under pressure from the satanists and freemasons within the Church.

Life imitates art?


63 posted on 02/11/2013 4:16:55 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: redgolum

Abbot Werdin D’Orante (12th Century)
The great monarch and the great Pope will precede Antichrist. The nations will be at war for four years and a great part of the world will be destroyed. The Pope will go over the sea carrying the sign of Redemption on his forehead. The great Monarch will come to restore peace and the Pope will share in the victory.


64 posted on 02/11/2013 4:20:50 AM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: All

Is it too early/ghoulish to put in a plug for Canada’s Cardinal Ouellet?

Let’s go over some of his wonderful attributes:

1) While not a third-world cardinal per se, he has spend a huge chunk of his ministry engaged in front line missionary work and has had a front row seat for the issues facing the church in these regions.

2) He’s multi-lingual: In addition to his native French, he speaks fluent English, Italian Spanish and Portugese, and is conversational in several more.

3) He currently heads the Congregation for Bishops and has been responsible for the vetting of those candidates. If your diocese recent got a new bishop, you probably have Cardinal Ouellet to thank.

4) He’s thoroughly conservative.

5) He’s not afraid to confront life and death issues head on. (He’s faithfully attended and spoken at March For Life rallies and similar events in Canada for years)

6) He’s the right age (68) so he’s not likely to have an excessively long or short papacy. Probably 10-15 years which is the average in the past couple of centuries.

7) He’s got clean hands. There’s not a hint of scandal anywhere near the guy. (ie: no record of him shuffling repeat offenders from parish to parish)

8) He’d be a good blend of the personal charisma of JPII and the deep intellectualism of BXVI.

9) He’s the perfect blend of pastor/priest/missionary/teacher/administrator.

10) Did I mention he’s Canadian? Lots of good things coming from Canada these days.


65 posted on 02/11/2013 4:22:26 AM PST by Preston Manning (When standing on the edge of a cliff, a "giant step forward" is NOT progress!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Leo VII, John VII, John XIII, and Paul II...

...guess this one thought it better to quit than get caught;)

66 posted on 02/11/2013 4:22:41 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Banning guns over Adam Lanza is like banning speech over Bill Maher.")
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To: BigCinBigD

The Pope talks to billions of people — and he doesn’t have to be a jerk to get that audience.

Why don’t you keep your petty jealousy to your own petty self in your own petty life?


67 posted on 02/11/2013 4:26:53 AM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: Preston Manning

The odds-on favorite according to British bookmakers Paddy Power is Cardinal Peter Turkson of Ghana.

Maybe a historic first....an African pope.


68 posted on 02/11/2013 4:29:16 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Petrus Romanus.


69 posted on 02/11/2013 4:30:55 AM PST by Blogger
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To: advance_copy

“...the last pope to resign was in the year 1415.”

Thanks; was just going to ask that.


70 posted on 02/11/2013 4:31:16 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

There have been three African Popes.


71 posted on 02/11/2013 4:31:16 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Blogger

God Bless Pope Benedict.


72 posted on 02/11/2013 4:31:32 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Preston Manning

I bet the jockeying for position is in full flow, no friends there when it comes to getting the top job, its like any office, they’d eat their own foot off to get the job, groups will form and the bargaining begins. No frontrunner here, its a case of who pulls off the support needed. Apparently the current pope has packed the college of cardinals with lots of europeans in the last several years, so i would probably expect an italian archbishop to get it.


73 posted on 02/11/2013 4:32:29 AM PST by sunmars
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To: agere_contra

Then I stand corrected. But the first black African Pope in my lifetime (43 years) to be sure.


74 posted on 02/11/2013 4:32:54 AM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: LibsRJerks

Maybe he is going to pray for the victims of Pedophile priests and those who covered for them.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Former-Cardinal-Roger-Mahoney-Aide-Bishop-of-Santa-Barbara-Resigns-Catholic-Church-Priest-Abuse-Files—189305431.html


75 posted on 02/11/2013 4:34:14 AM PST by LadyEleanor (How Do I change my tagline?)
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To: Preston Manning; Charles Henrickson
Is it too early/ghoulish to put in a plug for Canada’s Cardinal Ouellet? ... Did I mention he’s Canadian? Lots of good things coming from Canada these days.

Like oil. Soooo..if Ouellet becomes the next Pope at the same time the Keystone Pipeline is FINALLY approved, I can already see the headline wags calling it "Oil of Ouellet."

76 posted on 02/11/2013 4:34:42 AM PST by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: Perdogg

bttt


77 posted on 02/11/2013 4:35:16 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow.


78 posted on 02/11/2013 4:35:48 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

You were most right - there have been no sub Saharan African Popes.

The African popes are said to have come from the North African. The indigenous people of North Africa are Berbers.


79 posted on 02/11/2013 4:37:03 AM PST by LadyEleanor (How Do I change my tagline?)
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To: PastorBooks

She spoke of people rejecting the authority of the Pope. Choosing their own beliefs over the doctrine.

Ultimately she describes a country, “great nation in the ocean that is inhabited by people of different tribes and descent” over the ocean as key to timing. Earthquakes, storms, tidal waves etc.

Then a comet passing close by enough to either strike or disrupt the magnetic field to induce flooded coastal cities etc.

She describes a north wind filled with dust so thick, the people will stop their killing and live in total fear.

She wrote of the fall of the church, the rise of the monarch in FRANCE, and then the antichrist...as well.

http://www.unitypublishing.com/prophecy/HildigardSaint.htm


80 posted on 02/11/2013 4:38:39 AM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Joe Paterno of the Vatican...


81 posted on 02/11/2013 4:41:06 AM PST by TSgt (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.)
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To: EBH

You took that out of context- he says he is old and/or sick in the same question.


82 posted on 02/11/2013 4:42:51 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: hosepipe
could be wisdom

I find it extremely odd for any pope to leave right before Easter, the most important celebration of the Catholic Church. It's so important that I would have expected Benedict to try and stick it out.

Now it's more than likely that there will be no pope in office for the Easter Blessing.

83 posted on 02/11/2013 4:48:08 AM PST by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: TSgt

Ha ha


84 posted on 02/11/2013 4:48:48 AM PST by LadyEleanor (How Do I change my tagline?)
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To: Sub-Driver

BookMark


85 posted on 02/11/2013 4:49:50 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: momtothree

Has there ever been a Papal abdication that was voluntary?


86 posted on 02/11/2013 4:50:40 AM PST by AU72
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To: TSgt

You’re still an idiot.


87 posted on 02/11/2013 4:50:40 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: PghBaldy
Or, he watched the Grammy Awards last night, and realized that all hope is indeed lost..

At least he didn't Tweet the announcement..

88 posted on 02/11/2013 4:51:05 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: jsanders2001

I have always thought the anti-Christ would be far more intelligent than Obama, in order to deceive so many people. But it has been shown, instead, that the people are much more stupid and wicked than I gave them credit for.


89 posted on 02/11/2013 4:51:32 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: LoveUSA

Easter is March 31st, they could have all the cardinals in Rome ready to go on March 1st, they have enough warning to be there and get on with it, there will no appetite for slowing things down, maybe thats Benedicts thought, make sure they get on with it and don’t drag it out, force them to get on with it.

It took 19 days from death of john paul til Benedict got elected but that included the death and mourning period too, so they should be ready to go by easter no problems.


90 posted on 02/11/2013 4:52:38 AM PST by sunmars
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

What about Cardinal Arinze?


91 posted on 02/11/2013 4:54:18 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee)
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To: circlecity

If he were going to die soon, I don’t think he’d resign.


92 posted on 02/11/2013 4:56:18 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a baby girl's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Sub-Driver
Two weeks notice.

Enough time to get the Cardinals together and provide for an orderly succession.

Poor Baraq! He has been upstaged.

93 posted on 02/11/2013 4:56:40 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: LadyEleanor; TSgt

You two stay classy.


96 posted on 02/11/2013 4:58:26 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Preston Manning
Is it too early/ghoulish to put in a plug for Canada’s Cardinal Ouellet?

Nothing ghoulish about it, since Pope Benedict hasn't said that he's about to die.

Btw, I think Cdl. Ouellet has a lot of good qualities.

97 posted on 02/11/2013 4:58:29 AM PST by Tax-chick (I have chocolate.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

maybe i’m cynical but popes don’t resign or go and resign, they die, who knows, maybe he’s sick ,maybe he got the warning of “you’re leaving one way or another, you decide”. Its Not like Popes have not been bumped off before.


98 posted on 02/11/2013 4:58:39 AM PST by sunmars
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To: Sub-Driver

Hope he’s not ill. May God grant him a blessed, and long, retirement.


99 posted on 02/11/2013 4:59:43 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Sub-Driver

Looks like he’s just simply too pooped to Pope.


100 posted on 02/11/2013 5:00:18 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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