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The Number One Reason To Invest In Gold… [There is a] One hundred percent [chance of inflation].
SHTF Plan ^ | 2-10-2013 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 02/10/2013 11:06:39 AM PST by blam

The Number One Reason To Invest In Gold…

Mac Slavo
February 10th, 2013

With the the U.S. economy having once again dropped into negative recessionary growth, currency wars around the world heating up through direct and indirect devaluations, and trillion dollar fiscal deficits piling on, how is it possible that the stock market, a key measure of economic health for many Americans, is touching near all time highs?

Marin Katusa, Chief Strategist at Casey Research, suggests that this effect can be traced to monetary machinations that are happening behind the scenes, where few people are willing to look.

“Because they’re printing and making the availability of money so easy, the market is really confused right now,” says Katusa.

The reality is that literally trillions of dollars have been borrowed and printed to bail out the United States and Europe, and much of that money has been injected into stock markets to give the appearance of recovery.

It is, at best, an illusory effect.

Given that more people than ever before are out of work, over half of American households are dependent on some form of government disbursement to survive, and prices for essential goods like food and energy are consistently rising, it’s only a matter of time before confusion in financial markets turns to panic.

And when it does, just as we’ve seen throughout history, only real, tangible assets will be of value.

One such asset that has always maintained real value in times of calamity is gold.

Despite arguments that gold doesn’t grow like typical modern day investments and simply sits in a vault gathering dust, according to Marin Katusa in a recent interview with Future Money Trends, there is one key reason for why it should be in your diversified basket of goods.

The number one reason to invest in gold is insurance.

Because of the massive liquidity and the dilution of, not just the US and not just Bernanke, but all of the major countries – they are a printing press… The main reason to invest is because gold is money.

Before they had fiat currencies – that’s the currencies like today… there was gold.

The Romans. The Egyptians. The Babylonians.

For thousands of years they used gold before they used these fiat currencies.

And, every time in history a fiat currency ends in disaster.

We have recent examples. If you look at what happened to Yugoslavia, or Zimbabwe, or even Germany with their fiat currencies… gold always holds true value.

That’s why we believe gold is a true, original money.

I think at least you can see with gold, it is the insurance policy to bet against the bankers.

(Click to the site to watch a video)

With all of this money – literally hundreds of billions of dollars – being thrown into stock markets by leading financial institutions that were just a few years ago on the brink of insolvency, there are massive price distortions happening across the board. This includes rising stock markets, one of the key benefactors of the Federal Reserve’s printing press.

Another not so positive effect (at least not for the American people) are ever increasing prices in the free market, something that Katusa says is going to continue:

[There is a] One hundred percent [chance of inflation].

You can guarantee these three things in life: Taxes, Death, and Inflation.

Inflation is coming… I just don’t know if it’s next week, or in six months, or twelve months.

But the reality is, it’s coming.

That’s why if you have a percentage in gold, you’re covered.

It’s an insurance policy.

When all fiat monetary exchange mechanisms fail, only one asset has stood the test of time as a store of wealth.

Gold is and always has been an insurance policy.

It will be the only thing left standing when the U.S. dollar, the Euro, the Yen, and other paper currencies are inflated to oblivion by their respective governments.

Make sure you have some when that happens


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1 posted on 02/10/2013 11:06:50 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

Wouldn’t a weakened dollar and inflation inflate the price of all non-monetary holdings including stocks and real estate?


2 posted on 02/10/2013 11:18:35 AM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: blam

Most financial advisers say that you should have at least 10 to 20 percent of your assets in precious metals. My PM physical holdings consist of American Gold Eagles, American Silver Eagles and “junk” silver. One excellent source of PM information can be found on Kitco forums. Before all the naysayers chime in about how you cannot eat PM’s, let me say that I already have my other preps of food, water, guns, ammo, medical supplies, tools and barter items including pint bottles of whiskey and vodka, .22lr ammo, batteries, etc.


3 posted on 02/10/2013 11:20:12 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: blam

Invest in guns, ammo, and dry goods. The reason being that you can’t eat gold, and it makes for some really expensive bullets. If and when the SHTF, your gold would be useless to me. You better have something more useful to barter if you want to survive.


4 posted on 02/10/2013 11:22:45 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: blam
What do they mean There is a One hundred percent chance of inflation.....Have "they" seen the rise in food prices, energy prices, taxes on health let alone the Inter Net....Inflation??? they gotta be kidding............
5 posted on 02/10/2013 11:26:39 AM PST by yoe
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To: blam

What good is gold? When you sell it you have to pay tax on the “profit!” Goldsellers are required to issue a 1099 when you sell gold back to them. Then you pay tax on the “appreciated value.”


6 posted on 02/10/2013 11:29:43 AM PST by I want the USA back (We have got to defeat these marxist, jihadi-favoring redistributionists!)
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To: jiggyboy; PA Engineer; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Cheap_Hessian; CJinVA; Jet Jaguar; ...

Goldbug ping.


7 posted on 02/10/2013 11:30:58 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: blam
If you believe the system will somehow muddle through then owning a small amount of over priced gold might fit into you plans.

If on the other hand you really do think that the SHTF will occur soon then stay away from the stuff. In that case gold wont be valued in overinflated dollars or Euro’s or yen..but in how much wheat or rice you could find someone to trade it for in a 3rd world economy..

8 posted on 02/10/2013 11:35:06 AM PST by montanajoe
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To: babygene

That is their plan.


9 posted on 02/10/2013 11:43:10 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: montanajoe

Gold is occasionally under priced, but never overpriced.

Gold is the anchor point with reality.

To put it another way, while the “price” may drift, the buying power of gold is almost a constant.

There will always be a wealthy and powerful element that will look to acquiring whatever gold is available.


10 posted on 02/10/2013 11:49:35 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: factoryrat
Invest in guns, ammo, and dry goods.

AND Arable Land

11 posted on 02/10/2013 11:52:28 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: I want the USA back

http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/Congress-Votes-Repeal-1099-Requirements-57922-1.html

Congress repealed the 1099 provision in April of 2011 with large majorities. I’m guessing that bozo signed it, but no 100% sure.


12 posted on 02/10/2013 11:52:36 AM PST by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: I want the USA back

>> Then you pay tax on the “appreciated value.” <<

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Only if you are foolish enough to sell it. Your gold is for the time that the revenoors have abandoned ship.


13 posted on 02/10/2013 11:53:17 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: factoryrat

Add fuel and footwear.

Indeed, I don’t really intend to invest much in non-monetary hedges against inflation that I can’t eat, drive/ travel in, burn, wear, heal with or shoot.

REM: IF this becomes a long-term crisis, you’ll be able to barter decent footwear for food and ammo.


14 posted on 02/10/2013 11:56:14 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: babygene
There could be a time when a 50 pound bag of rice is worth more than an ounce of gold. Long term food storage should be on the list. n/s
15 posted on 02/10/2013 11:56:14 AM PST by cameraeye (A happy kuffir!)
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To: montanajoe

Actually, the $’s and €’s are now and always have been measured in gold.


16 posted on 02/10/2013 11:57:36 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: editor-surveyor
Nope gold is often over priced and its price usually has no basis in reality. The central bankers, sovereign nations, and speculators determine the price of gold and it has no relationship with reality.

As I say if you believe in gold you also believe the folks who actually control the price of the stuff will somehow muddle through and the world economy will more or less survive intact. I don't that's why I have not bought any in years..

17 posted on 02/10/2013 12:03:49 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: I want the USA back

He did sign it, but there are some restrictions.....

“The question we are always asked is ... Are my transactions private? When I sell my gold bullion or silver bullion, is it a private transaction, or is it reported to the IRS?

First, when a customer buys from our dealership, the transaction is private. There are no forms we are required to fill out when you buy.

Secondly, when an investor sells their gold bullion or silver bullion to a dealer, some of these trades are private, some are not. Depending upon what you are selling will depend upon whether the powers that be require us as a dealer to fill out something called an IRS 1099 B Form.

When you sell your bullion back to a dealer, the pertinent questions are:

1) What form of gold and or silver bullion you are selling?

2) What amount of silver bullion and or gold bullion are you selling?

Remember, this is for private investor sales (your sale) of gold and or silver bullion to dealers.” (snip)

http://goldsilver.com/article/privacy-facts-on-selling-gold-silver-irs-1099-form/

There’s some good info in the whole article.


18 posted on 02/10/2013 12:08:54 PM PST by DaveinOK54 (Freedom is not Free and I'll never quit defending it.)
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To: montanajoe

The “world economy” is not Gold based.

Gold is reality, and fiat is pipe dreams.

None of the “Real Equity” class envision themselves without gold. They are driven to somehow acquire all of it.


19 posted on 02/10/2013 12:11:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Talk about devaluation woes and gold, this guy sums it up nicely!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2013/02/09/devaluation-nations-argentina-and-venezuela-suffer-ravages-of-inflation/


20 posted on 02/10/2013 12:23:59 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: editor-surveyor
"To put it another way, while the “price” may drift, the buying power of gold is almost a constant."

No, it is not. The price of gold has not kept up with inflation over the long haul.

In about 1890 my grandmother was paid a 20 dollar gold coin for her first month of teaching school. In the late 1950's when my father told me this story, gold was selling for $35 per ounce while teachers were paid approximately the value of ten ounces of gold per month. Today teachers are paid about twice the value of an ounce of gold per month.

The price of gold fluctuates more rapidly than some commodities, giving some a short term profit but it hasn't been a good investment in the long term.

The greatest problem with gold in hard times is that you can't buy a loaf of bread or a few gallons of gas with gold. There are many far better investments that can be bartered in bad times.

21 posted on 02/10/2013 12:24:59 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Buffalo Head

What would you expect to use to buy a D-8 or a 977 loader?


22 posted on 02/10/2013 12:27:47 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: whitedog57

Sean ‘spicoli’ Penn, Economic Guru!


23 posted on 02/10/2013 12:34:26 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: blam
Precious metals are not a medium of exchange and never will be again, even in the event of a crisis.

Beans, bullets, bandaids and a defensible position are the keys to survival.

24 posted on 02/10/2013 1:03:08 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: editor-surveyor

The wealthy and powerful going after gold includes the government.


25 posted on 02/10/2013 1:08:55 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: I want the USA back

As of now, no 1099 for selling gold coins, just bullion.

Bear in mind, however, central banks are the tool of new world order, lesser known as international banking.

International banking/nwo/globalists are financial firms; they deal in gold and other commodities; in fact, they deal in most everything that is traded.

If a government had to “back” their currency with a precious metal like gold, that would be a profit bonanza for international banking, since the government has to come to bankers to buy gold for every new dollar they issue. It’s just a variant on what the Treasury does now; they pledge to pay back the Fed for every dollar the Fed creates and gives to them in exchange for the “IOU” Treasury debt instrument. In either case, the Treasury goes to the bankers for money instead of just creating money itself.

It’s one thing to have some gold or precious metal as an investment, but the best investment one can have is one’s own productive business(es). In them, one can be astute, not wasting when investing in it, knowing when to shut down an operation, continually reinvesting profits and diversifying. Inside a corporation one can conduct any business activity, even investing, yet not have any personal income from it until one decides to. No special magic, just the way things work.


26 posted on 02/10/2013 2:20:48 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: factoryrat
how much guns ammo and dry goods are you going to barter to get a couple gallons of gasoline? How about a semester of college tuition?

Most sellers who own gasoline stocks enough to sell recognize the sight and value and portability of silver US coins, pre 1964 quarters, dimes etc, and Morgan dollars.

Right now the value of one Morgan dollar would fill up my gas tank. How many bags of rice could you offer a seller as a comparable?

One silver dime today's value will buy a loaf of bread. How much ammo will you trade for flour?

Two golden eagles will pay for a year of community college. How many bags of rice are you willing to offer the college?

27 posted on 02/10/2013 3:43:18 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf
“How many bags of rice are you willing to offer the college?”

I think most of the folks who see the wisdom in stockpiling food stuffs and selected commodities other than precious metals expect a total worldwide meltdown of society and the financial systems. They are not worried about paying for college...

In that scenario gold will have little value to those that survive as it wont be denominated in dollars it will be denominated in a third world like barter economy and its true worth is what it can be exchanged for to provide sustenance shelter or defense. Gold is only good when you have a marginally stable economy (like that in the US today) with a class of folks with an excess of whatever the local currency is and are willing to put that excess into gold.. Ive spent a lot of time in third world economies and no one in the masses there are the least concerned with the price of gold. They are concerned where the next meal is coming from... If you think the system will somehow survive then an argument can be made for holding a small amount. If you believe and are preparing for the SHTF then gold is a very poor investment in spite of what the folks peddling the stuff will tell you...

28 posted on 02/10/2013 5:03:26 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe
ah but just in case the sdhtf, then I can pay for college better with some gold eagles than with 50 pound sacks of rice

sheltering in place sounds great until the zombies find you or at least find your garden, and you run out of ammo

for the typical suburbanite shtf should consider the value of accumulating junk silver for the bug-out bag, for small survival purchases... and maybe some gold to buy you a piece of safety (real estate, liveaboard boat, or whatever) when you find it

precious metals should nor be considered as or compared with investments, they are wealth preservers, or as the article states, insurance - of retaining the value of some of your wealth in something that has universally been a prized barter item (aka money) for over 6000 years

so we have different goals - different strokes for different folks

Cheap, easy to store, easy to conceal and carry if you go on the run, universally recognized as “money” in any barter system

29 posted on 02/10/2013 6:00:15 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf
Not different goals just a different view of the future.

Mine is far more pessimistic than yours I suspect.

Everybody needs to make their own way and plan accordingly..

30 posted on 02/10/2013 6:33:06 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

If shtf happens you’d only “go to college” to loot the place.


31 posted on 02/10/2013 6:39:20 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: montanajoe

If shtf happens you’d only “go to college” to loot the place.


32 posted on 02/10/2013 6:39:20 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: montanajoe

If shtf happens you’d only “go to college” to loot the place.


33 posted on 02/10/2013 6:39:20 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: montanajoe

If shtf happens you’d only “go to college” to loot the place.


34 posted on 02/10/2013 6:39:20 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: montanajoe

If shtf happens you’d only “go to college” to loot the place.


35 posted on 02/10/2013 6:39:20 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: montanajoe

If shtf happens you’d only “go to college” to loot the place.


36 posted on 02/10/2013 6:39:26 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: ogen hal

Oops...


37 posted on 02/10/2013 6:40:50 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: blam

Trouble is, the PTB can make the price of gold be whatever they want. They do it by selling “paper gold”, gold contracts supposedly redeemable in gold metal.

But they already got the edge, because of something called “force majeure”, a kind of Act of God clause that says if they can’t give you the metal, they can basically settle for whatever price they pretty much choose.

IF! and note I said IF the dollar collapses, the price of these types of portable commodities, gold, oil, wheat, silver, rubber would go to the moon.

But I suspect WWIII would happen about that time. And it WOULD NOT be a coincidence.


38 posted on 02/10/2013 6:44:11 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: djf
"IF! and note I said IF the dollar collapses, the price of these types of portable commodities, gold, oil, wheat, silver, rubber would go to the moon."

Yup.

Everything necessary for life would sky-rocket in price...even chain-saws.

39 posted on 02/10/2013 6:52:10 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Got my saw in good working order just today! Ran like a champ!
Bar oil, tightened down the chain, took down about a 40 foot maple and a bunch of brush maples.

Thing is, auto work, electrical, that stuff don’t bother me. But I ain’t no lumberjack. I have a very healthy respect for chain saws and monster trees falling down!

So now I take time to relax with a Scotch or three...

;-)


40 posted on 02/10/2013 6:58:29 PM PST by djf (Conservative values help the poor. Liberal values help them STAY poor!!!)
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To: ogen hal

Believe it or not Hal, every time you hit that post button it hits. Just keep reloading the page. :^)

As far as all you other nuts, tell me why Mr. Putin just ordered XX metric tons of Gold for the Soviet Union?

The issue is way over my head.


41 posted on 02/10/2013 7:30:40 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/)
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To: djf
"But I ain’t no lumberjack"

You don't have to be....
A 'lumberjack' will trade you something for your saw. I've collected ten so far at yard sales, lol. (I haven't paid more then ten bucks and most about 5 bucks....good barter items, I bet)

42 posted on 02/10/2013 7:38:25 PM PST by blam
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To: elkfersupper

Apparently a lot of people disagree with you:

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2013/01/31/rush-to-safety-americans-buy-nearly-half-a-billion-dollars-of-gold-and-silver-in-january/


43 posted on 02/10/2013 7:47:48 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03
Here's the deal for all you folks that say "You can't eat gold". Perhaps one day your 10 year old little bundle of joy walks up and tells you "Daddy, I've got a tummy ache". You notice a low grade fever and find out that it's been a few days since a poop occurred. You suspect appendicitis and know that without treatment you will have to dig a hole for said bundle of joy in a few days.

So you load up the trunk with rice and drive over to that nice 'retired' sawbones in the next town. He does the exam and agrees with you that surgery is in order. He requires a half ounce of gold or ten ounces of silver. You tell him about the rice and he laughs as he shows you his storeroom packed to the ceiling with rice, flour, booze, bullets, and oh yes, boots.

He explains that his suppliers for drugs, tools, sutures and the like only take gold or silver. "But, but, but on FreeRepublic I saw many times that that stuff was worthless," you moan. "Sorry guy, but times are tough all over," the surgeon intones.

Now I pray that this never happens to you, but if it does happen to me, I would rather have it and not need it, rather than need it and not have it.

YMMV

44 posted on 02/10/2013 11:09:49 PM PST by Wingy
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To: blam

I wish I could bring myself to post the #1 reason NOT to invest in gold. But can’t do it. Too many delusional people who deserve the most probable outcome. Totally oblivious to the ‘careful what you wish for’ thingie.


45 posted on 02/10/2013 11:18:56 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: Wingy
Some people are just immune, and apparently have never grasped the concept of circular reasoning.

Who is likely to have the shorter lifespan when 95% of the terminally desperate mob comes pouring over the hill.

Hint... depends on how long after TSHTF the mob appears.

46 posted on 02/10/2013 11:32:12 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: HangnJudge

Go by the soviet, or the south african example. Arable land will be confiscated and put under control of the government, with the current owners either being driven off their land, or summarily executed for resisting. Oh, and don’t forget GM seed crops, designed to produce sterile seed. You would want to invest in heirloom seeds, and protect against cross-pollination. You’ll end up growing crops much like the current pot farmers do now, becoming a criminal for the act of being independent. Control the food, control the people.


47 posted on 02/11/2013 9:36:59 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Blueflag

Shoes, boots, and socks would definitely be good barter items. Buy up a bunch of disposable cigarette lighters too. They’re cheap and useful.


48 posted on 02/11/2013 9:40:03 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: silverleaf

If things here were really to go to hell in a handbasket, college courses would be the least of anyone’s worries. If some version of a shooting war broke out in the US, life as you know it would pretty much grind to a screeching halt. Fuel? Power? Electricity and utilites? Communications? Transportation? Those would be the first targets of a destroy the command, control, and infrastructure campaign by an oppresive army.


49 posted on 02/11/2013 9:48:48 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat
and if sdhtf you got 9 years worth of rice to dine on
and I've got my kids tuition savings (or “start her own life” savings) not in paper notes, but in a commodity that will rise and fall and generally keep up with inflation....I hope

but if shtf, I figure I can bury or pack the value of an entire dry good cache and a small farm in West Virginia in a coffee can or backpack and dole out the junk silver along the way there

good luck hiding your survival cache of dry goods and barter items like boots and whiskey from an oppressive army, rambo, since you won't be hauling them much of anywhere. They're already using drones, ya know

50 posted on 02/11/2013 11:55:07 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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