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Democrats map out plan to win sequestration war (Guess what's in the plan without peeking...)
POLITICO ^ | 02/09/2013 | Manu Raju

Posted on 02/09/2013 6:11:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Senate Democrats are digging in against Republican calls for deeper spending cuts by bringing out some of their favorite punching bags: corporate jets, Wall Street and Big Oil.

With the automatic budget cuts in the sequester coming up next month, Democrats hope to vote on an alternative plan to raise taxes on some of their favorite boogeymen in hopes of shifting the blame when the GOP inevitably rejects it.

Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray of Washington, Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus of Montana and Appropriations Committee Chairwoman Barbara Mikulski of Maryland met Thursday to map out their options and plan their public rollout.

The Democratic public pressure campaign is expected to begin in earnest next week, starting with President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address on Tuesday and a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing expected Thursday at which senior administration officials will most likely sound the alarm that so-called sequestration cuts would devastate the economy.

Votes could come as soon as next week, though they might slip until the end of the month after the Senate’s weeklong Presidents’ Day recess.

According to sources familiar with the matter, Democrats are leaning toward a plan that would be split 50-50 between spending cuts and tax hikes, financed in large part by new taxes on corporate and wealthy taxpayers.

“I’m not identifying replacement cuts — I’m working on a balanced solution,”Mikulski told POLITICO on Thursday. “We’ve already taken those cuts. … I think there’s consensus that we need revenue and there’s also an understanding that we’ve already worked to substantially cut domestic spending.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; sequestration; taxes; taxhikes

1 posted on 02/09/2013 6:11:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think the Republicans are going to come to the table. A half and half deal on new taxes and budget cuts? I don’t think it’ll interest anyone much. I’d say that sequestration will occur, and Democrats will be shocked that this whole game was played to the end, and no one took the bait to run to a new deal.

Frankly, you can forecast a dismal second half of 2013, especially around the DC region...with home sales coming to a major stoppage.


2 posted on 02/09/2013 6:14:55 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

When does tar and feather and rope come into play?


3 posted on 02/09/2013 6:16:39 AM PST by ronnie raygun (w)
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP should agree with Big Oil cuts as along as the Dems concede on the Big Green cuts...after all the oil subsidies are less than 1% of the solar and wind scams.

Of course...that argument might be too cogent and straight forward. They should just roll over as usual.


4 posted on 02/09/2013 6:20:08 AM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I wish someone would remind democrats and republicans that they're in Washington working for us and not up there to play some psychological chess game with each other. The best idea I've heard in ages came from this forum where a poster (forgive me for not attributing it to the poster) suggested we send them all home to do business from their districts from now on. I think that's brilliant.
5 posted on 02/09/2013 6:27:52 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: ronnie raygun
When does tar and feather and rope come into play?

The sooner, the better.

6 posted on 02/09/2013 6:28:33 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The rats are nothing but communists...every stinkin’ last one of em. The sooner America wakes up and realizes it, the sooner the country will begin to turn around. Even some of the “takers” are now starting to realize that there may soon be nothing left to “take”. They have literally “killed the goose that lays the golden eggs”. Let them simmer in their sequestration. It was THEIR idea along with dear leader’s. May that albatross rot around their necks.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 6:31:58 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fact #1 - there are no spending cuts, so digging in against further spending cuts is nonsense. No need to read this worthless pile of grass cuttings further.


8 posted on 02/09/2013 6:34:45 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: pepsionice
Frankly, you can forecast a dismal second half of 2013, especially around the DC region...with home sales coming to a major stoppage.

Let's just hope that the coming "dust up" helps to educate some folks on how much trouble we are in and how much worse it will get if we can't curb the insane spending/borrowing/printing.

It seems like they are lining up to "prove" that lack of government spending causes an economy to crash and to hide the fact that it was excessive spending that caused the whole deal. For some reason, folks can't seem to equate that if you are in deep debt, you cannot spend your way to fiscal health - it looks like the "no responsibility/repercussion" society they have designed is ready to go over the cliff and never figure out why they are crashing and burning.

9 posted on 02/09/2013 6:35:34 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I see my girl Babs Mikulski right in the middle of this fiasco

I love my state, but we sure have some truly crappy politicians. This little troll has her feet in concrete. No matter how hard we try we just cannot get rid of her.

She does nothing but follow every Democrat talking point as if they were written on Moses’s tablets.


10 posted on 02/09/2013 6:58:52 AM PST by Venturer
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To: trebb

We have been working for five or six decades toward a “mess”. You can go state-by-state and see the trends all the way back to the 1960s. The problem is that we anchored so much of city, county, state and federal government to the economy...that any major changes will do damage to the economy...even when we are doing a positive thing (like cutting waste).

The other side of this is that if we simply saddled the public...all citizens...with a simple twelve-percent personal income tax and then said this is it.....no other funding unless you declare a war, and start a temporary tax on top of the situation at hand, then things would start to make sense.

The bottom line is...the more cash that is in residing in private hands...represents a more positive dynamic for the public (jobs, growth, etc).


11 posted on 02/09/2013 7:01:04 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

I can’t wait for the Depression, Unemployment, and Housing Crash to hit the DC area. I would love to see thousands of unemployed Federal workers.


12 posted on 02/09/2013 7:01:33 AM PST by gotribe (Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
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To: SeekAndFind
I really don't understand why the Republicans are so focused on the defense budget cuts. Reality is that Obama will cut defense spending regardless. Republicans will have a much stronger stand if they simply allow the sequestration to happen. It will have little effect on defense spending anyway, and Obama will be forced to take some of the blame (sequestration was his own idea, and he has offered NO leadership on the budget issues).

It should be his blame, and his blame alone, but the media will spread the blame to include Republicans. Regardless, most rational people, including the low information voters, will see Obama as a key non-player

13 posted on 02/09/2013 7:04:03 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

the demoKrats- they were for sequestration before they were against it...


14 posted on 02/09/2013 7:23:52 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: gotribe

All those fed workers had mortages which won’t be paid. They bought cars via Ford, Chevy, and Chrysler. They spent money at Wal-Mart, Walgreens, and Maceys...just like everyone else. The Reagan concept of trickle-down....also means that less money for a year trickles down, and hurts individual business operations.

The long-term look...it gets better. But if sequestration goes into gear....you’d best expect it happen for 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016. Those 22-odd days of furlough each year will add up and subtract off economical improvements.

I’m of the mind that we won’t see any real budget or economic positives until 2017. That’s a long wait.


15 posted on 02/09/2013 7:25:20 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: norwaypinesavage

The sequestration cuts defense spending by $500 Billion in TEN YEARS !!

That means $50 billion a year.

We spend about $680 Billion a year on defense. A cut of $50 Billion means we spend “only” $630 Billion.

How big of a disaster is that really? That’s still greater than the spending on defense of the top 20 defense spending nations combined (Yes, China and Russia included).


16 posted on 02/09/2013 7:28:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Isn’t 40% of budget of the spent on education? looks like that would be a good place to start.


17 posted on 02/09/2013 9:51:24 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Venturer

Every person I run into whether democrat or rare republican we have in the state loves mukusky. I don’t get it at all. I love Maryland too but the politics are insane.


18 posted on 02/09/2013 10:34:32 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: pepsionice
We have been working for five or six decades toward a “mess”. You can go state-by-state and see the trends all the way back to the 1960s. The problem is that we anchored so much of city, county, state and federal government to the economy...that any major changes will do damage to the economy...even when we are doing a positive thing (like cutting waste).

Yep - I find it ironic, after watching the "liberal" college kids making such a fuss about not trusting the government and wanting it out of their lives. The same crew, now aging, are the ones that are just fine with total government control and consider the "benevolence" of the Feds to be a good thing. Kind of like a young chicken hating foxes because of the damage they do. Then when the chicken gets older, it decides that foxes are a good thing.

19 posted on 02/09/2013 11:21:55 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: napscoordinator

You have never run into me then. LOL.

She is the atypical Democrat, if the party tells her how to vote she votes. Liberal to the Nth degree.

It would be interesting to know what Republicans you ran into.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 12:10:08 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer
I see my girl Babs Mikulski right in the middle of this fiasco

Yeah ... I'd love to see the GOP House just zero out all funding for the Webb Space Telescope, and put a rider on the bill ordering that everything constructed to date needs to be cut up for scrap within 30 days.

Even if it would make it back in during conference, it would be incredibly amusing to watch Babs go completely apesh*t (or would that be trollsh*t?)
21 posted on 02/09/2013 12:17:04 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: trebb
The same crew, now aging, are the ones that are just fine with total government control and consider the "benevolence" of the Feds to be a good thing.

That's because now they are the ones that infiltrated it and are changing it to what they envisioned then...

22 posted on 02/09/2013 7:00:41 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks SeekAndFind.
...by bringing out some of their favorite punching bags: corporate jets, Wall Street and Big Oil.
Al Gore, Michael Moore, and other Limo Libs hardest hit.


23 posted on 02/09/2013 9:33:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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