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Searchers struggle to pick up trail of former Los Angeles cop wanted in killing spree
Fox News ^ | 2/8/13 | ap

Posted on 02/08/2013 5:26:28 PM PST by carriage_hill

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To: null and void
A trial will shine entirely too much daylight on LAPD's culture.

Maybe. Cops, lawyers, judges. Birds of a feather. Information is only revealed in trials if the questions are asked.

...but the authorities...will never report the connection to the public...

But Dorner would have the right to testify.

151 posted on 02/09/2013 9:38:39 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: null and void; Cvengr
MANPAD


152 posted on 02/09/2013 9:47:48 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: null and void

You got it right the first time.


153 posted on 02/09/2013 9:50:25 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Utah Binger
Your mission, Mr. Phelps, if you choose to do it; is to climb to the hill where the 1907 picture of Orderville was taken,
so that pesky fellow from Indiana can see if any of the buildings seen in the old picture have survived to this day.


 

154 posted on 02/09/2013 10:15:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: null and void

A couple of his books have been made into movies.


155 posted on 02/09/2013 10:17:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ladyjane
Shooting unarmed people in the back? Emptying their weapons on an unseen target?

I don't think I approved of these.


In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Searchers struggle to pick up trail of former Los Angeles cop wanted in killing spree, ladyjane wrote: The cops DO have a right to protect themselves from a potential deadly threat. Shooting unarmed people in the back? Emptying their weapons on an unseen target? Three unarmed victims so far - You wouldn't be a cop by any chance, would you?

You've outted me; as my daughter is married to a very fine one.

AFAIK, he's never had to shoot his weapon during a run; although he was in a SWAT unit early in his career.

156 posted on 02/09/2013 10:21:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 2111USMC
Our “guy” in Washington IS gay!

THAT was a TYPO???

Looked just fine the way it was!

157 posted on 02/09/2013 10:22:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: null and void

The more I read about him, what he himself has written and what his ex-girl friend has said. I think is a narcissist who thinks the whole revolves around him. He has a long list complaints dating back to grade school of everybody that did him wrong. He remembers in detail every time somebody cut in line in front, and the longer it gets from the event the meaner they were to him. I have met people like him before who think every time somebody farts up wind of him is a racist. I think if he were put the stand most of what he said would only shine a light on him and how everybody else picks on him. He is a killer and should be giving no poor baby victim status. He has nothing worth listening to say about LAPD culture. He might have seen cops do bad things but none of them involved killing people like he did. He is not out seek justice for the victims of the LAPD but to get revenge against people who did him wrong.


158 posted on 02/09/2013 10:28:10 AM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: Elsie

I love Hillerman, but I didn’t know any of his books have been made into movies. Which ones?


159 posted on 02/09/2013 10:52:44 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hillerman

 

160 posted on 02/09/2013 11:35:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Chode

LOL. perfect.


161 posted on 02/09/2013 11:46:31 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: Elsie

Thank you... I was planning to google them up later, but you’ve saved me time.


162 posted on 02/09/2013 12:08:02 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: null and void

IMHO, his MO is similar to most Muslim extremists.

He has a fundamental problem with justice.

He focuses on identifying something unrighteous or an assault upon his thinking. When hit with a contrary thought, he recoils and believes his retribution is righteous, confirming his personal justification.

The problem is that his personal righteousness in his own eyes, is not holy, as being perfectly just and righteous.

He recognized the theft of the boat to serve his personal agenda, but still recognized the murder of the owner to not be righteous, nor satiating any perceived retribution. He might have planted the idea of going to Mexico. He might have had some remorse for his victim and attempted to justify his behavior to him ignoring the obvious criminality.

FWIW, until we have real eyewitness reports, he might also be dead and the entire affair is an attempt to sway public opinion against the rule of law. That is just as consistent with the Black Muslim agenda under this Administration, which would just as likely turnover the SW US to extreme Muslim Mexican fifth columnists with Chinese influence.

IMHO, it’s probably WYSIWYG. He likely was wronged from his perception, but lacks the self discipline to work within the system. Instead he corners himself into becoming adversarial against peers, juniors, and seniors only clinging upon past perceived wrongs, valid or not, to justify any action, no matter how criminal.

If it’s him, then now he’s cornered into either a gang only lifestyle or a loner lifestyle. Without a job, he is more likely to seek the former.

From his taste in celebrities, it appears he enjoys the status quo, where reward and compensation are commensurate with diligent devotion to cause. His lack of discipline when faced with adversity is substituted with a counterfeit devotion to cause to self justify his thinking.

Considering the report of his attempt to steal a boat, I suspect many of the public may be exposed to extremely high risk from his erratic behavior. He has manifest he doesn’t consider felonious criminal activity to be inconsistent with his agenda if tactically justifiable.

FWIW, it’s been pretty cold, wet, and windy up in Big Bear for the last few days. If he was roughing it, he’s going to be awfully tired, cold, wet, and hungry. Without resources, he’s likely be desperate. On the other hand, his manifesto might have included many a trite comment as brevity codes to third parties. We might be witnessing more gang involved assymetric warfare being employed.


163 posted on 02/09/2013 12:24:01 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

It could also be a black ops mission. He could disappear never to be heard from again.


164 posted on 02/09/2013 1:34:00 PM PST by USAF80
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To: USAF80

<;^)

He did favor 68degrees over 72 degrees.
(It must be two 34 degree Masons! <:^0)


165 posted on 02/09/2013 1:41:50 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: USAF80; xzins

Speaking of Black Ops. I just had 3 Black Helicopters pass over my house heading North towards Big Bear in formation. I suspect they were coming from Miramar or Pendleton.

Coincidence?


166 posted on 02/09/2013 2:54:20 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: ladyjane

The guy’s a terrorist. I want someone to stop him from doing what he’s already done before he does it again, and I want them to do it right now.


167 posted on 02/09/2013 3:03:04 PM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: P-Marlowe

Any markings?


168 posted on 02/09/2013 3:06:29 PM PST by USAF80
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To: OKSooner

So you recommend a drone strike on this guy now that he is labeled a “terrorist”?


169 posted on 02/09/2013 3:13:39 PM PST by USAF80
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To: USAF80
I never said that. Tactical air strike with napalm yes, drone strike no. But that's just me.

And since you ask, what are you in favor of? Maybe you could go reason with him.

170 posted on 02/09/2013 3:27:11 PM PST by OKSooner ("Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell No!!")
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To: USAF80
Any markings?

Just Black. Kinda shaped like this:

Rounded front, thick body, wheels down.

171 posted on 02/09/2013 3:42:22 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: OKSooner

I read most of his rant. Don’t really know what to think about the whole thing. Anyone who have ever been wronged by cops would be more on his side.

I think he is past the reasoning stage. He already stated that.


172 posted on 02/09/2013 3:43:02 PM PST by USAF80
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To: P-Marlowe

just your standard Blackhawk


173 posted on 02/09/2013 4:03:41 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe

BlackHawk, UH60. Used by the military and others. The markings are sometimes hard to read as they are a dark color.


174 posted on 02/09/2013 4:10:29 PM PST by USAF80
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To: P-Marlowe

Training mission


175 posted on 02/09/2013 5:09:20 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: OKSooner
I want someone to stop him from doing what he’s already done before he does it again, and I want them to do it right now.

Even if they break the law doing it?

176 posted on 02/09/2013 5:46:50 PM PST by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: null and void

That’s about what I thought, too. He’s spread them out all over the place. The screw-ups of the cops hosing down entire neighborhoods has added a huge distraction away from the manhunt, too.

I’ll wager that for a guy who wants to wage war against the LAPD, his new residence address will be in Mexico. Imagine a guy with his naval intel training and insight into LAPD working for the cartels. They’d pay him pretty nicely for what he knows... and working with the cartels would mean that he has access to lots of ways to smoke a lot of cops.


177 posted on 02/09/2013 6:11:26 PM PST by NVDave
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To: carriage_hill

Bump


178 posted on 02/09/2013 7:32:33 PM PST by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: carriage_hill

“Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared.”

Sounds like we know the basics of how this ends already.


179 posted on 02/10/2013 12:44:16 PM PST by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: OldNewYork

Death of cop, by cop. Preordained, by both sides.

Yet, the LAPD is going thru the motions of impartiality:

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2013/02/10/lapd-chief-beck-on-reopening-dorner-investigation.kcal-kcbs


180 posted on 02/10/2013 12:49:20 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s Are The 21st Century's Muskets. Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!)
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To: Josephat

“Could be and in the end they will take him out with a drone and a lot of the sheeple will think that is a good thing.”

How many pick up trucks with innocent people will they blow up with drones before they have the country against them?


181 posted on 02/11/2013 4:16:23 AM PST by Kent1957
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