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Las Vegas gun dealer said murder suspect Dorner was a customer, but did not buy firearms ...
http://www.dailybulletin.com ^ | Posted: 02/08/2013 01:13:14 PM PST | Andrew Edwards

Posted on 02/08/2013 1:49:26 PM PST by Red Badger

The manager of the Las Vegas gun store that murder suspect and fired Los Angeles Police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner criticized in his manifesto said Dorner was a customer, but never purchased any firearms there.

Tony Melendez, manager of Lock N Load said all customers' purchases are confidential, but the store never sold a gun to Dorner because he was a California resident.

"He never purchased any firearms in the store," Melendez said.

A California resident would not be able to legally purchase a firearm in Nevada or another state without having the weapon transferred to a federally-licensed gun dealer in California.

Southern California law enforcement officers escalated a manhunt for Dorner on Thursday after he allegedly used a rifle killed one Riverside police officer and wounded another during an early morning ambush attack.

The multi-agency manhunt for Dorner is currently focused on the Bear Valley area.

Dorner is also suspected in the Sunday night killing of Cal State Fullerton assistant women's basketball coach Monica Quan and her fiancee, USC public safety officer Keith Lawrence.

Quan, 28, was the daughter of Randal Quan, a retired Los Angeles police captain who became an attorney. Quan represented Dorner at the LAPD hearing that led to Dorner's firing.

Dorner wrote in his manifesto that he believes he was unjustly terminated for reporting police brutality and is willing to commit"horrendous murders" and "necessary evil" to change the LAPD.

The rambling manifesto also complains that gun laws are too loose and Dorner states he made multiple purchases of suppressors with a trust account he created using Quicken software to avoid a proper background check.

Although Dorner does not specifically say what he purchased from Lock N Load, he singled out the Las Vegas gun retailer for verbal attack.

"Lock N Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III (sic) weapons with just a notarized trust, miltary ID. Shame on you Lock N Load," Dorner wrote.

A Class III firearms license allows a dealer to sell silencers, machine guns and short-barrelled rifles or shotguns regulated by the National Firearms Act.

Dorner's manifesto also attacks several police officers, National Rifle Association leader Wayne LaPierre, the Westboro Baptist Church and people who have doubted President Barack Obama's status as a natural born citizen.

"Nobody likes to hear the name of their business listed in this manner, but this is a guy whose pain goes deeper," Melendez said.

Melendez recalled that Dorner visited the gun store about once every other month, or about four times since he has been employed at the store.

"This was a guy who appeared to us as your average gun enthusiast," Melendez said. "Very personable. Very kind. Very friendly."

Irvine Police Lt. Julia Ingen said the department is not identifying what kind of weapon Dorner is suspected of using to kill Quan and Lawrence to avoid jeopardizing their investigation.

Other law enforcement officials involved in the Bear Valley search have also refrained from saying which guns Dorner is suspected of using.

Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck, however, said Thursday that Dorner is believed to in possession of multiple weapons, including assault rifles.

The Los Angeles News Group contributed to this report


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: banglist; christopherdorner; dorner; guncontrol; leftwingmurderer; partisanmediashills; secondamendment
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To: Red Badger

I was just channel surfing and came across one of those entertainment type programs. They were running maybe a five minute section on this guy.

I didn’t catch the first part of it but from what I saw you probably would have guessed that he was an anti-government, anti-gun control, admirer of conservatives etc. Not even close to an accurate portrayal of him except maybe the anti government part.


41 posted on 02/08/2013 3:19:14 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Don’t think I haven’t considered it.


42 posted on 02/08/2013 3:34:30 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Starstruck

“Nah! Read the guy’s manifesto. They wouldn’t have him as a lefty. “

This serves their purpose too. They don’t wany any of the “little people” to have guns, right or left. Except those duty weapons that will be kept under lock and key when not on the job. Like with Obamacare, a lot of people who believe they’re special are going to find out that they’re not.


43 posted on 02/08/2013 3:37:34 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: null and void

Having options is never a bad thing.


44 posted on 02/08/2013 3:39:53 PM PST by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Sometimes you have to burn your boats.


45 posted on 02/08/2013 3:42:19 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: yarddog
"....gun manufacturers stabbed us in the back because it had a provision banning military surplus....

It is far worse than that. Some of the details are inadvertently chronicled on Page 33 of the August 1962 issue of the American Rifleman. The major firearm manufacturers, under the umbrella of SAAMI hatch a plot with Connecticut's Senator Thomas Dodd to ban the importation of foreign military rifles as a protectionism scheme. They lost control of Dodd and we ended up with the 1968 GCA.

Don't believe for a minute that Sen. Finstein authored the Assault Weapons and Extended Magazine bans. In 1989 I saw copies of the proposed legislation being circulated in the firearms and ammunition plants by the National Shooting Sports Foundation as another misguided attempt at protectionism. The imported SKS rifles had the rifle makers concerned.

The American arms and ammunition manufacturers have handed the gun grabbers victories they never could have achieved on their own. We have met the enemy. It is us. To the best of

46 posted on 02/08/2013 3:57:53 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Red Badger

“Lock N Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III (sic) weapons with just a notarized trust, miltary ID. Shame on you Lock N Load,” Dorner wrote.

Further proof that the dunce is lying. Seriously, he’s made numerous absurd claims about what weapons he has or how he got them.

Anyone who thinks this guy is a highly trained commando making years worth of intricate plans and carrying around an arsenal of unobtainable weapons on his back needs a SERIOUS dose of common sense.

The fact of the matter is that Dorner is a mentally deficient and disturbed individual. He’s a black racist that blames all of his personal and professional failures on “white racists”. He was a reservist desk-jockey in the military, and he was shunted back and forth between assignments and technical training that he often couldn’t complete.

It would appear from his military record that he was repeatedly coddled when he failed to live up to standards or succeed at technically demanding tasks. He was given opportunity after opportunity. I wonder, did his chain of command excuse as much bad behavior from him as Maj. Hasan’s did?

Then he tried to be a police officer. He couldn’t complete probation without filing a civil rights complaint against his field training officer. Later, as a rookie, he couldn’t tolerate overhearing politically incorrect language from his coworkers, so he figured it would be a brilliant career enhancing move to assault a fellow police officer.

When this failure of a human being finally met a review board that wouldn’t give him a pass for unacceptable behavior, he cracked. He screamed that the only reason he was being terminated from his place of employment was because there was a conspiracy of evil white racists out to get him. Then, he decides to murder everyone that pissed him off.

Dorner cannot control his emotions, hold a job, or communicate any better than a grade-schooler. He blames his every inadequacy and his every failure on RACISM. I can just thank God that the LAPD finally weeded this lunatic out of their ranks.

Judging from Droner’s lackluster mental abilities, his severe emotional instability as well, I’m going to say that this boy is more of a danger to himself than he is to others. He’s running, and scared, and making even dumber decisions than is normal for him.

I’d say that he’d probably chicken-out and try to give himself up when he gets cornered, but I think instead he’s going to die either from his own stupidity or the inevitable run-in with competent and aware police - there aren’t going to be many more unarmed female basketball coaches or patrolmen sitting around chatting for him to sneak up on.


47 posted on 02/08/2013 4:14:18 PM PST by jameslalor
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To: yarddog
Don't go there, the authorities certainly should not go there.
This guy is over the edge nuts but that does not make him stupid.
He's had enough training, experience, and time to plan and to prepare for contingencies.

I'd guess that the toasted truck is a diversion & he's laughing his butt off somewhere down the hill.

48 posted on 02/08/2013 4:21:03 PM PST by norton
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To: norton

When I was a kid we lived not too far from the Florida State Mental Hospital in Chattahoochie.

One day a guy had all four lug nuts come off a wheel then the wheel fell off.

The driver moaned that he could get home until he found those missing lug nuts and they were scattered across the grass on the shoulder.

There was an old man sitting on a bench behind the outer wire.

He told the driver to take one lug nut from each wheel of the other and use those 3 to attach the fourth wheel. Then he would drive home slowly but safely. The driver thanked the chattahoochie resident. The guy replied. I may be crazy but I am not stupid”.


49 posted on 02/08/2013 7:01:47 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I’m not sure this nutcase is all that prepared. In the video at the link it claims that after the rope got wrapped up in the propeller (Ha!) he “became frustrated”. Perhaps he had a Plan A (steal a boat) and a Plan B (okay, if stealing a boat doesn’t work, I’ll take my truck with the motorcycle and .50 cal and head to my hideout in Vegas after burning my truck at Big Bear).

But I doubt it.

I liked the part where this master criminal assassin dropped his briefcase and badge.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-lapd-cops-badge-id-found-in-san-diego.html

Excerpt:

The disgruntled ex-LAPD officer suspected of shooting three police officers Thursday morning and killing a couple in Irvine earlier this week tried to steal a boat in San Diego and flee to Mexico, authorities said....

The 81-year-old boat owner reported being accosted and tied up by a burly man dressed in black who threatened him with a gun and said he wanted the boat to flee to Mexico. But while the assailant was trying to start the boat, a rope became fouled in the propeller and the boat was inoperable, authorities said....

About 2 a.m., a citizen reported finding property belonging to Dorner on a street near Lindbergh Field, not far from the scene of the attempted boat theft. The property included a briefcase and Dorner’s LAPD badge.


50 posted on 02/08/2013 7:13:21 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: yarddog
I don’t see the point in burning the truck. It is not as if they would not be able to figure out it was his.

Maybe he wanted them to find it but I bet he wasn’t that smart.

Burning the truck destroyed prints and scents, so if the vehicle was driven up there by an accomplice... well, now they can't tell, nor can they use scent dogs to track the direction of the occupant.

And I would think it's obvious he wanted the vehicle found, because the LEO just burned through serious resources and taxpayer funds in a totally useless search.

They look like fools and the entire narrative is turning against the LAPD since the stupidly shot up civilians in two separate incidents.

The taxpayers are not happy with the LAPD. If this guy reappears and kills a few more cops and then disappears again, the LAPD is going to have serious issues and if there are anymore civilian shootings or even excessive use of force incidents in unrelated cases, there will be a public backlash.

What can one man with a gun do against an entire police force? Now everyone knows and it's even better than a Hollywood action flick.

51 posted on 02/09/2013 10:39:13 AM PST by Valpal1
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