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Nuclear war over Rove's claims to work for Reagan; Gipper biographer says no
Washington Examiner ^ | 2-8-2013 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 02/08/2013 1:09:21 PM PST by smoothsailing

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To: smoothsailing

lol, I love that pic, smooth. Good article, too! :-)


51 posted on 02/08/2013 3:12:56 PM PST by Girlene
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To: entropy12

He criticized Palin on national TV. When you have that kind of power, every word you say gets picked up by somebody for good or bad. In rove’s case with Sarah, it was ALWAYS bad and he didn’t have to write it because someone else did it for him.


52 posted on 02/08/2013 3:15:46 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: entropy12
Just criticizing Rove on this forum will not get rid of Rove’s multi-million dollar operation & PAC’s.

Excuse me??? Forgive me for jumping into your BS, but please...the real focus here is your asinine assertion Rove is not an enemy to conservatives. Rove, like Bush is a rino and that's that, but for you to defend this ignorant prick as not the enemy is ignoring the huge problem conservatives face in this current political climate.

53 posted on 02/08/2013 3:16:08 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: smoothsailing

lol, I love that pic, smooth. Good article, too! :-)


54 posted on 02/08/2013 3:16:59 PM PST by Girlene
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To: entropy12
If you bother to read all my posts on this thread it will be clear to you I never sent a dime to Rove or his PAC. So how am I helping Rove, GOPe or the RINO’s?

Ok, I admit I have not read all your post, but that has NOTHING to do with your aforementioned recent post.

Let's get this straight right now:

Do you think Rove is an enemy of conservatives by his recent words and actions?

55 posted on 02/08/2013 3:20:30 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: entropy12

Google can help you but right after the 2008 Presidential election, Rove and the GOP elites started bashing Palin. Then the news media jumped in and finally the Romney team.

IF you were paying attention at the time, Sarah Palin got ambushed from friend and foe alike.

Rove has been the one who has single handedly help destroy the GOP.


56 posted on 02/08/2013 3:37:18 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: entropy12
Google Rove vs Palin.

Or read this one...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/26/karl-rove-attacks-his-fellow-republicans-sarah-palin-rick-perry-herman-cain-to-get-romney-in-white-house.html

57 posted on 02/08/2013 3:42:50 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Girlene

Thanks, Girl! :o)


58 posted on 02/08/2013 3:46:50 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

The only difference between Obama and Rove is two letters P and Q. they both are liberal to the core and both are narcissists. I never cared for either Rove nor Obama.

Sean hannity had Rove on his radio program today, did not catch much as i was on the john deere with snowblower attachment. something about he was with Reagan and that the Crossroads PAC helped to get Rubio, Cruz and others elected. The other thing was he volunteered for Crossroads. I turned him off than. I had to focus on snow removal - getting ready for another snowfall of 6 inches on Sunday.


59 posted on 02/08/2013 3:49:43 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: smoothsailing

MR: “I’m a severe conservative.”

BO: “We do skeet shooting all the time.”

KR: “I heart Reagan.”


60 posted on 02/08/2013 3:55:42 PM PST by tnvol01 ("...answering that question w/ specificity uh, you know, is, is, uh above my pay grade.")
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To: smoothsailing

Ronald Reagan and Bonzo Rove go way back.

61 posted on 02/08/2013 4:00:23 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: entropy12

But I am astute enough to recognize
Rove is not the real enemy. The real enemies are Obama-Reid-Pelosi-Clintons.

No the real enemies are the back stabbing RINOs that run interference for the marxists. They are on the same team.


62 posted on 02/08/2013 4:07:19 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: smoothsailing
Go ahead, Punk! Pull my finger. Make my day.

Who gives a damn anyway?

63 posted on 02/08/2013 4:12:36 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: smoothsailing

;-)


64 posted on 02/08/2013 4:33:16 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 50mm
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65 posted on 02/08/2013 4:34:14 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Randy Larsen
IF you were paying attention at the time, Sarah Palin got ambushed from friend and foe alike.

Right you are, sir.

Additionally, after watching the immunity that the RINO's and GOP-E had within the party for the next three years, Sarah knew she could not win 2012 because the RINO GOP-E traitors would sabotage her election.

Rove and the RINO GOP-E got the unconservative conservative Romney they wanted, and America got Obama.

66 posted on 02/08/2013 4:37:34 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: smoothsailing

Rove says such queer things.


67 posted on 02/08/2013 4:39:00 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: entropy12

If you bother to read all my posts on this thread it will be clear to you I never sent a dime to Rove or his PAC. So how am I helping Rove, GOPe or the RINO’s?

...there really is no purpose to talking sense on an issue like Karl Rove or Ann Coulter...the same people giving you grief now are those who a few short years ago idolized both those individuals...sense means nothing to those who have discovered a new meme, that of some fictitious candidates possessed of a nonextant political purity...all that matters is making sure you are on the right side of that meme...


68 posted on 02/08/2013 4:43:49 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Defiant

Karl Rove was the architect of all that while the Bushes occupied the building he constructed. Thank you for astutely determining that the real enemy was the honest barbarian who entered the city and slaughtered its citizens, and not the dishonest collaborator who opened the city gate for them.

...amusing post...thanks for the laugh...


69 posted on 02/08/2013 4:51:16 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: dirtboy

RINOS have been “crossing the aisle” for decades to help support the liberal agenda. They never once expected or demanded that the libs cross over to the right side to promote a conservative agenda. Rove and the people he supported were kind of the last straw. He wanted Romney so bad he was drooling. I don’t see why anyone thinks he has any credibility in the ability to be able to pick winning candidates. It’s a joke.


70 posted on 02/08/2013 4:55:33 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Navy Patriot

That’s the way I saw it happen also.

Rove believes in the tactic of “Back stabbin’ and ambushin”!


71 posted on 02/08/2013 4:55:33 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Aim small, Miss small.)
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To: Fiji Hill
"I worked with Craig Shirley when he was at the Young Americans for Freedom office on Wilshire Blvd. in Los Angeles in the mid-1070’s—and I’ll vouch for his integrity."

As impressive as his integrity may be, it pales in comparison to his longevity!!!!

72 posted on 02/08/2013 5:00:17 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: dandiegirl

I don’t see why anyone thinks he has any credibility in the ability to be able to pick winning candidates. It’s a joke.

...gee, I don’t know...did Bush win two elections or not...


73 posted on 02/08/2013 5:11:38 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: dandiegirl

I don’t see why anyone thinks he has any credibility in the ability to be able to pick winning candidates. It’s a joke.

...gee, I don’t know...did Bush win two elections or not...


74 posted on 02/08/2013 5:15:19 PM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: smoothsailing

Unfortunately, we still have too many PhonyCon Liberals who will suck up to Rove....the same ones that still get their news from Fox and think Sean Hannity is conservative.

Anyone familiar with the 1980 campaign and 2 Reagan terms knows that Bush people and Reagan people kept their distance for the most part. Doubt that Bush-Whacker Rove would have been let near any Reagan campaign planning and strategy


75 posted on 02/08/2013 5:32:14 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: sirchtruth

Reading Rove’s columns (which is rare for me) what I gather is that he is trying to support the candidates with best chance to win. Obviously he is not always right. Example: his support of Romney.

But again my main point is not about Rove being for or against conservatives. He has spent money from his PAC for both, tea part types and RINO’s. Rove spent $5 million+ for Mourdock’s senate campaign for example. My main point is we should focus our energy on fighting the democrats. There is nothing realistically we can do to stop Rove from supporting his choice candidates. This is still a free country.


76 posted on 02/08/2013 5:37:44 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: IrishBrigade

Thank you very much for a rational & logical post.


77 posted on 02/08/2013 5:39:44 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: sirchtruth

Please explain why Rove bothered to spend $5+ Million for Mr Mourdock’s senate campaign. I consider Mourdock to be a conservative.


78 posted on 02/08/2013 5:42:24 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: MestaMachine

In what context did Rove criticize gov. Palin? Was it during her campaign as VP with McCain? She has not run for any other office since that 2008 run, so any of his criticism of her is irrelevant.


79 posted on 02/08/2013 5:45:10 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: mosaicwolf

I don’t know, I believe he is paving the way for another Bush.


80 posted on 02/08/2013 5:46:16 PM PST by depenzz
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To: 50mm

Thanks for making me LOL.


81 posted on 02/08/2013 5:46:31 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: smoothsailing

Karl Marx Rove is cut from the same cloth as his Democrat cohorts. He really does not care about America, it is about keeping his position of power within the Republican Party elite. Had the Republican Party funded candidates the states had selected, instead of trashing them (like tea party candidates), they might have had a good chance of winning. But he really can’t afford to have conservatives getting to much control in the Republican Party as it threatens his survival.


82 posted on 02/08/2013 6:27:56 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: forgotten man

Rove has fallen for the so called main stream media’s predilection for pretending no one will notice a lie. Rove is as bad as Chris Matthews. That is an insult!


83 posted on 02/08/2013 6:57:49 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: onyx

“Feels good, doesn’t it, Mr. President.”


84 posted on 02/08/2013 7:40:51 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: entropy12

I don’t recall saying anything about stopping Rove from doing what he wants, or getting rid of him. I just commented on your astute observation that Rove is not the enemy, Pelosi, et al. are. I remain astounded by your insight.


85 posted on 02/08/2013 7:44:41 PM PST by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: All

Rove and the gopE pulled support from every candidate for any little reason. Then they started verbally attacking them. When someone stumped his toe they should have had his or her back. Rove was against Christine O’Donnel from day one. He favored a liberal dem over a conservative republican properly selected by the voters.


86 posted on 02/08/2013 7:46:46 PM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: smoothsailing

Hey! I thought Rove was a Tuskogee Airman and worked with Dr. Schweitzer too. /sarc


87 posted on 02/08/2013 7:58:37 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Navy Patriot; entropy12

entropy12 states: “I spend all my resources opposing the real enemies.”

Navy Patriot responds: “Good, then Rove will be free to put a knife in your back while Obama-Reid-Pelosi-Clinton put ‘em in your front.”

Sorry ent12, Navy Patriot’s got it right. May I suggest you brush up (or learn for the first time?) on your American history? See who the Founders regarded as the ‘real enemy’ and what they did about it and why.

Study some of the greatest men of our time, paying particular attention to former President Ronald Reagan. Then compare them to karl rove.

When you’ve completed your assignment re-allocate your resources accordingly.


88 posted on 02/08/2013 8:52:29 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (A return to Jesus and prayer in the schools is the only way.)
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To: smoothsailing

Mr Rove responded to his criticizer, “Don’t call me...Shirley”.


89 posted on 02/08/2013 8:59:37 PM PST by Insigne123
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To: entropy12

Is the more dangerous enemy the one in front of you with the gun or the one behind you with the gun?

Rove is a symbol of what’s wrong with the GOP and why true conservatives feel lost in RINO hell.


90 posted on 02/08/2013 9:08:59 PM PST by Palin_Rubio2012
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To: MichaelCorleone

My only real enemy is one who steals money out of my pocket everyday with taxes. That affects my lifestyle, where I can live, what food I can eat, where I can send my kids to college, what vacations I can afford, what car I can buy, how many times I can enjoy a good restaurant meal...etc.

When I started working in 1962 as a structural engineer, every raise I received increased my tax bracket. My gross income was going up but so were my taxes! I was in 42% tax bracket and I was just making average engineer’s salary. Meaning every dollar I received in raise, 42 cents went right back to IRS.

Then Reagan came along, and my tax bracket dropped to 25%. I switched from a democrat to republican because I saw who was really hurting me.

To make a long story short, every democrat in WH or congress diminishes my lifestyle. None...and I mean zero, zip, nada republicans have caused me such grief. Even the so called RINO’s. So operatives like Karl ROve I can not hate. I hate only tax raisers which means every freaking democrat. Even my state of Washington democrats are as bad as those in DC.

So, the history means noting to me. My lifestyle means everything to me and my family.


91 posted on 02/08/2013 11:59:28 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Defiant

Please read my post #91 which might explain why I do not hate any republican. I only hate democrats. My reasons are spelled out in my post #91.


92 posted on 02/09/2013 12:01:46 AM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: MichaelCorleone

I admire president Reagan for reason I stated in my post#91. He is the reason I switched from a Chicago democrat to a life long republican.

Another thing I admire about the Gipper is that he did not speak ill of any republican. We call it his 11th commandment.


93 posted on 02/09/2013 12:08:18 AM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: Defiant

You may want to read my post #91 why I do not hate any republican.


94 posted on 02/09/2013 12:16:07 AM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: entropy12; Randy Larsen; All
Do you happen to have a link or two where Rove published a column in any important media criticizing governor Palin?

Rove Attacks Fellow Republicans Sarah Palin, Rock Perry, and Herman Cain to Get Romney in White House (Original article title before they changed it)

Karl Rove questions Sarah Palin's suitability for president

Karl Rove: Sarah Palin Needs To Stop Being So Thin Skinned (while she was under severe attack BTW)

Rove: Palin Endorsement 'Not Worth Snot' For Gingrich

See a pattern here?

95 posted on 02/09/2013 1:49:17 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Randy Larsen

Actually, Team Romney started sliding their daggers into Palin’s back in late August and early September 2008, even trying to get her to back out as VP candidate so that Romney could step up. We now know that Kevin McFadden was one of the original Romney hit men, but later Nicolle Wallace, Steve Schmidt, Rove and other GOP-E minions began calling up their LSM buddies Mike Allen, Jonathan Martin, and Dave Weigel and really poured it on her. And on November 5, 2008, the day after McCain lost, a concerted GOP-E effort began to pin the entire blame on Palin, which Romney has (finally) now exploded with his weak performance this past election


96 posted on 02/09/2013 2:00:19 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: smoothsailing

Rove really stepped in it this time. Say good night Karl.


97 posted on 02/09/2013 2:13:32 AM PST by jpsb
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To: smoothsailing

Is this the same Karl Rove who was the only survivor of Little Big Horn?


98 posted on 02/09/2013 4:21:07 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: smoothsailing
The same Karl Rove who guided Lewis and Clark in their exploration of the Louisiana Territory? And, married to Sacajawea? That same Karl Rove?
99 posted on 02/09/2013 4:26:26 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Robert DeLong
Karl Marx Rove is cut from the same cloth as his Democrat cohorts.

Exactly, and it explains his method for the acquisition of personal power.

Rove will climb on top of the bodies of fellow Republicans to boost HIS elitist insider over the top.

When the DemoRat attacks don't kill those fellow Republicans so he can climb on their bodies, then Rove does, by putting a knife in their back, allowing his elitist candidate a clear path to the top. Then rove is pulled up right behind by that candidate.

He really does not care about America, it is about keeping his position of power within the Republican Party elite.

Right, again.

Had the Republican Party funded candidates the states had selected, instead of trashing them (like tea party candidates), they might have had a good chance of winning. But he really can’t afford to have conservatives getting to much control in the Republican Party as it threatens his survival.

Three for three.

So Rovian acquisition and retention of power is more important than America's safety from extreme socialism and Islamic domination.

It's not just Conservatives that Rove sabotaged.

100 posted on 02/09/2013 4:47:52 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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