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Obama administration embraces major new cut in nuclear weapons
Miami Herald ^ | 2/8/13 | Jeffrey Smith

Posted on 02/08/2013 5:03:03 AM PST by Monty22002

WASHINGTON -- Senior Obama administration officials have agreed that the number of nuclear warheads the U.S. military deploys could be cut by at least a third without harming national security, according to those involved in the deliberations.

Such a reduction would open the door to billions of dollars in military savings, which might ease the federal budget deficit. It also would improve prospects for a new arms deal with Russia before President Barack Obama leaves office, those involved said, but it’s likely to draw fire from conservatives, if previous debate on the issue is any guide.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: disarm; disarmament; disarmnuclearusa; disarmusa; flexibility; nationalsecurity; norks; northkorea; nuclear; nuclearfree; nuclearweapons; nukefree; nukes; obama; usnukes
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To: Monty22002
I have been wondering why he has not brought this up yet. We all knew he would eventually get around to the subject of a nuke free world (as it applies only to the USA of course).

Obama Vows to Disarm America May 30, 2008

2007 OBAMA: As president, I will end misguided defense policies and stand with Caucus for Priorities in fighting special interests in Washington. First, I'll stop spending $9 billion a month in Iraq. I'm the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning -- and as president, I will end it. Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems, and I will institute an independent defense priorities board to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending. Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal, I will not develop new nuclear weapons; I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material, and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals. You know where I stand.

This is why he whispered in Medeved's ear that Russia should wait patiently for King Obama's second term to really see what is coming.

America is over, make plans accordingly.
21 posted on 02/08/2013 6:22:31 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Monty22002

Even North Korea is about to test a mobile ICBM and they are posting videos about destroying us with it.

To hell with “conservatives”, Americans need to fight back against the left. They will get us killed, that’s what they do.


22 posted on 02/08/2013 6:40:29 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: BCW

>how did we get to this point in the US

By allowing (comparative) trivial issues to divide the GOP and allow the truly evil party to take control.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 6:41:48 AM PST by soycd
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To: Monty22002

Yeah, how convenient, with sequestration right around the corner. Smacks of desperation just like every other maneuver this clown tries.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 6:47:09 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Monty22002

this strategic assessment is brought to you by the same same great academic brains that have brought you TARP, porkulous, Fast and Furious, cash for clunkers, obamacare, Benghazigate, do ask do tell, and the US economy for the past 5 years

Say, shouldn’t countries like Iran and North Korea have to undergo background checks to get a nuke?


25 posted on 02/08/2013 6:49:34 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Monty22002

Such a reduction would open the door to billions of dollars in military savings, which might ease the federal budget deficit.


Bull crap!!! It will do NOTHING to ease the deficit. The libs will simply pour the savings into new spending programs.


26 posted on 02/08/2013 6:59:32 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Monty22002

I didn’t think we had any nukes left. How many do we have left? Five?


27 posted on 02/08/2013 7:01:49 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: Cheerio
"I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert"

Our ICBMs have been off "hair trigger alert" since 1994:

United States – Russia mutual detargeting

Currently, Minuteman III ICBMs and Trident SLBMs either have no target in their guidance system, or open ocean targets. This forces the additional step of having to enter or select a target prior to launch. However, some systems have the capability to being retargeted in flight.

I'm not really sure what other steps can be taken. We did end the alert status of the Minuteman II ICBM force in 1991, and later did the same for the Peacekeeper ICBMs. But both of these actions were taken because both of these systems were being decomissioned as part of arms control agreements. During that time, Missile Operations Officers still went to their control capsules and Missile Security crews still went out to the sites in order to keep the systems secure.

If we want to take them "off alert", I am not sure what else would be done. Perhaps powering down the guidance systems, but all of the other monitoring will need to stay up and operational for nuclear surety.

If Obama wanted to remove the warheads from the missiles and move them to storage (like you would when you take a bomber off of nuclear alert), that would effectively end any reason to have an ICBM force. Moving a nuclear weapon a half a mile from a bunker to a bomber alert pad is one thing, moving a nuclear weapon 20 miles across open roads to an ICBM silo is a major undertaking.

Realize when Obama said this incredibly ignorant statement, he was a sitting senator. He was believing crazy leftists talking points more than his own country's defense policies.

28 posted on 02/08/2013 7:04:10 AM PST by magellan
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To: Monty22002
flexibility
29 posted on 02/08/2013 7:43:34 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: All

One of the big warnings from Trevor Loudon is Obama’s main goal is cutting defense. Wrecking the economy, ‘income redistribution,’ the class warfare, etc is ‘important’ to him, but it all relates to the main goal of gutting our military and making us vulnerable. Then, in 2016, (as I understand Loudon) he is afraid Russia and China will band together and make the decision to possibly attack as we’ll be at our lowest defense capability ever in recent history - (assuming a Republican candidate promises to ‘rebuild the military, etc.’). More worries because of the LoFos. . I’m still trying to get over the election. . .


30 posted on 02/08/2013 7:45:25 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Monty22002
The Miami Herald has just reprinted an Obama Administration press release (PR):

Senior Obama administration officials have agreed that the number of nuclear warheads the U.S. military deploys could be cut by at least a third without harming national security, according to those involved in the deliberations.

It essentially said that a group of people appointed by and serving at the whim of Obama decided among themselves and in accordance with Obama that they agreed with his stance on cutting nuclear warheads.

The "savings" angle is laughable, so much so I'm crying. If their lips are moving they're lying.

31 posted on 02/08/2013 8:01:35 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Justa
“details how U.S. nuclear weapons should be targeted against potential foes”

I.e. they’re changing the targeting.

Probably targeting red states in "flyover country" with them now.

32 posted on 02/08/2013 8:11:32 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: chessplayer
I didn’t think we had any nukes left. How many do we have left? Five?

Nobody needs more than 10 nukes. Why does anybody need more than that to kill a deer?

33 posted on 02/08/2013 8:19:19 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox

One nuke, ballgame over.

Look what two 767s did to downtown Manhattan.


34 posted on 02/08/2013 8:32:27 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Art in Idaho

Ya know, it wasn’t that long ago that entertaining such thoughts was the stuff of the tinfoil hat crowd, not so today, we don’t have to be even remotely paranoid to believe our president is knowingly working against our own security interests or that our enemies are becoming more emboldened ala neville chamberlain,

I’ll repeat something I’ve posted before just because i think it interesting and related to this topic, I’m not predicting anything, so ignore as you like,

Babylon was given 70 years to the very day to be the preeminent world power in the Earth and in relation to its treatment of Israel, (see Daniel Chapter 5)

I discovered awhile back that 70 years after the United States used the first Atomic bomb in war, August 6th, 1945, and rising (I conjecture) to be the ultimate national power on the Earth on that very day,

That it’s exactly 25200 (70 years X 360 days) to the day counting to the 9th of AV in August of 2014.

What does that mean? I don’t know, but if it means anything it cant be good, (Tisha B’Av as it relates to Israel has always been a day of darkness, mourning and destruction)

We couldn’t find a better anti-Israel person to be in the role of Belshazzar, or even leopard king Nimrod,

“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” Ecclesiastes 1:9


35 posted on 02/08/2013 8:42:50 AM PST by captmar-vell
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To: Diogenesis

Notice the Beast does not have a wedding ring on in that photo. Bill must have pawned it.


36 posted on 02/08/2013 8:48:19 AM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: Colorado Doug

“Probably targeting red states in “flyover country” with them now.”

Israel too.


37 posted on 02/08/2013 9:13:59 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: Monty22002

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So what will Obama do with any “alleged savings”?

Introducing:

CASH FOR JUNKIES

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38 posted on 02/08/2013 9:17:36 AM PST by devolve ( -------- ------ --It's not where Obama was born that's the problem - it's where he's living now--)
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To: hillarynot

How about the first few chapters of “Left Behind” ?......


39 posted on 02/08/2013 9:31:13 AM PST by mickeylee
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To: Monty22002

Round 2.

Round 1 was 2011:

“The New START Treaty responsibly reduces the number of nuclear weapons and launchers that the United States and Russia deploy, while fully maintaining America’s nuclear deterrent.” – President Barack Obama

Treaty Structure: The Treaty between the United States of America and the Russian Federation on Measures for the Further Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms also known as the New START Treaty.

Strategic Offensive Reductions: Under the Treaty, the U.S. and Russia must meet the Treaty’s central limits on strategic arms by February 5, 2018; seven years from the date the Treaty entered into force. Each Party has the flexibility to determine for itself the structure of its strategic forces within the aggregate limits of the Treaty. These limits are based on the rigorous analysis conducted by Department of Defense planners in support of the 2010 Nuclear Posture Review.

Aggregate limits:

1,550 warheads. Warheads on deployed ICBMs and deployed SLBMs count toward this limit and each deployed heavy bomber equipped for nuclear armaments counts as one warhead toward this limit.

A combined limit of 800 deployed and non-deployed ICBM launchers, SLBM launchers, and heavy bombers equipped for nuclear armaments.

A separate limit of 700 deployed ICBMs, deployed SLBMs, and deployed heavy bombers equipped for nuclear armaments.

Verification and Transparency: The Treaty has a verification regime that combines the appropriate elements of the 1991 START Treaty with new elements tailored to the limitations of the Treaty. Measures under the Treaty include on-site inspections and exhibitions, data exchanges and notifications related to strategic offensive arms and facilities covered by the Treaty, and provisions to facilitate the use of national technical means for treaty monitoring. To increase confidence and transparency, the Treaty also provides for the exchange of telemetry.

Treaty Terms: The Treaty’s duration is ten years, unless superseded by a subsequent agreement. The Parties may agree to extend the Treaty for a period of no more than five years. The Treaty includes a withdrawal clause that is standard in arms control agreements. The 2002 Moscow Treaty terminated when the New START Treaty entered into force.

No Constraints on Missile Defense and Conventional Strike: The Treaty does not contain any constraints on testing, development or deployment of current or planned U.S. missile defense programs or long-range conventional strike capabilities.

http://www.state.gov/t/avc/newstart/index.htm


40 posted on 02/08/2013 9:35:22 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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