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No Deal! Bishops to Administration: You Can't Force Lay Catholics to Act Against Faith
CNSNews ^ | February 7, 2013 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 02/07/2013 1:48:56 PM PST by jazusamo

(CNSNews.com) - Cardinal Timothy Dolan of New York, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, issued a statement on Thursday signaling to the Obama Administration that the bishops will not make a separate deal to exempt Catholic institutions from an Obamacare mandate that requires health-care plans to cover sterilizations, contraceptives and abortion-inducing drugs that leaves lay Catholic business owners and individual employees still subject to the mandate.

“In obedience to our Judeo-Christian heritage, we have consistently taught our people to live their lives during the week to reflect the same beliefs that they proclaim on the Sabbath,” said Cardinal Dolan. “We cannot now abandon them to be forced to violate their morally well-informed consciences.”

The cardinal said the bishops will also continue to support the many lawsuits against the regulation--including those brought by private busineses--that are moving forward in federal courts around the country.

The Catholic Association, a group of Catholic laypersons dedicated to advancing the principles of the Catholic Church, issued a statement supporting the bishops' stand in defending the religious freedom of all Americans.

“We stand with the bishops today in rejecting the proposed ‘accommodation’ which still violates the religious freedom of Americans," said The Catholic Association.

"The bishops have recognized in their statement that when the religious freedom of one is compromised, the religious freedom of everyone is compromised, whether they be their own affiliated institutions or non-Catholic institutions or for-profit employers," said the association. "We call on this administration to provide an acceptable exemption for people of faith, and to put an end to its anti-religious liberty policies.”

Cardinal Dolan's statement was specifically responding to a new version of the Obamacare regulation that the Department of Health and Human Services proposed last week. The new proposal would slightly modify how Obamacare defines the “religious” institutions that can be exempted from the sterilization-contraceptive-abortifacient mandate. However, the proposed new version of the regulation would still force Catholic non-profits (such as hospitals, charities and colleges) to buy health care plans from carriers that, in turn, would be required to set up theoretically cost-free separate policies to provide free sterilizations, contraceptives and abortifacients to all beneficiaries. Further, the new proposal would provide no relief at all to individual Catholic lay people, whether they own a business or are employees.

Cardinal Dolan noted that the bishops will continue to judge the Obamacare regulation within the framework they laid out in a document the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops initially published last March and that all U.S. Catholic bishops unanimously approved in June.

“Third, the bishops explained that the ‘HHS mandate creates still a third class, those with no conscience protection at all:individuals who, in their daily lives, strive constantly to act in accordance with their faith and moral values,” said Cardinal Dolan, citing the bishops' unanimous declaration. “This includes employers sponsoring and subsidizing the coverage, insurers writing it, and beneficiaries paying individual premiums for it. Friday's action confirms that HHS has no intention to provide any exemption or accommodation at all to this ‘third class.’”

Cardinal Dolan’s statement included some placatory language, and the bishops seemed to be taking care to indicate they were not yet closing the door to working with the administration to find an outcome that will allow American Catholics to live both according to their faith and according to whatever final Obamacare regulations the administration ultimately decides to enforce.

“Because the stakes are so high, we will not cease from our effort to assure that healthcare for all does not mean freedom for few,” said Cardinal Dolan.

“Throughout the past year, we have been assured by the Administration that we will not have to refer, pay for, or negotiate for the mandated coverage," the Cardinal said. "We remain eager for the Administration to fulfill that pledge and to find acceptable solutions—we will affirm any genuine progress that is made, and we will redouble our efforts to overcome obstacles or setbacks. Thus, we welcome and will take seriously the Administration's invitation to submit our concerns through formal comments, and we will do so in the hope that an acceptable solution can be found that respects the consciences of all. At the same time, we will continue to stand united with brother bishops, religious institutions, and individual citizens who seek redress in the courts for as long as this is necessary.”

In an analysis published last August, the National Catholic Bioethics Center said that in keeping with Catholic moral teaching all Catholic business owners should drop health insurance coverage for all of their employees by no later than next January if the sterilization-contraception-abortifacient mandate is not lifted.

Last year, when the initial regulation was finalized, many of the nation’s Catholic bishops wrote letters to their congregations, declaring: “We cannot—we will not—comply with this unjust law.”


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Obama will not be happy with Cardinal Dolan.
1 posted on 02/07/2013 1:49:05 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: narses

Ping!


2 posted on 02/07/2013 1:51:19 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

I bet the “won” is fuming. Prepare Bishop Dolan to be “Fosterized”.


3 posted on 02/07/2013 1:51:49 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: jazusamo

Good for Cardinal Dolan et al.


4 posted on 02/07/2013 1:58:02 PM PST by Girlene
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To: jazusamo

Now is the time for all Christians to stand together with one accord.


5 posted on 02/07/2013 1:59:24 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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To: stars & stripes forever

Amen to that, this about all Christians.


6 posted on 02/07/2013 2:00:59 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

I am a big Cardinal Dolan fan, but your fellow Cardinals shouldn’t have supported Obamacare in the first place. Please fight the good fight.


7 posted on 02/07/2013 2:05:38 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: jazusamo

All i can say here is that Obama can go to hell.


8 posted on 02/07/2013 2:10:07 PM PST by muawiyah
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Please bump the Freepathon or click above and donate or become a monthly donor!

9 posted on 02/07/2013 2:10:57 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: jazusamo

No sympathy here...the Bishops supported Obamacare. If they couldn’t see where it was going then they are just plain stupid.


10 posted on 02/07/2013 2:13:28 PM PST by demsux (Obama: THE job destroyer)
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To: demsux
No sympathy here...

No one wants your sympathy. This is about support -- if you have the guts to give any. If you care too little for the Constitution to do so, then everyone will know which side you've chosen.

11 posted on 02/07/2013 2:23:10 PM PST by Romulus
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To: jazusamo

Praise God and the good Cardinal!


12 posted on 02/07/2013 2:29:55 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Were they not Christians who voted for Obama and put him on the throne?


13 posted on 02/07/2013 2:32:42 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: onyx

Amen, my FRiend.


14 posted on 02/07/2013 2:38:07 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: muawiyah

With his baby-killing propensities, I suspect he has a first-class direct route ticket reserved in his name already. Of course, he can always repent; however, in his narcissistic world, he probably plans on pardoning himself and expects God to go along.


15 posted on 02/07/2013 2:45:53 PM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: jazusamo
That's what I've been saying all along.

Same as Conscientous Objector. It's an individuals option....not a church option.

And if I own a business....I can reject Obama's mandate on moral grounds.

16 posted on 02/07/2013 2:54:39 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

My previous post...should read....not just a church or religious institution option...


17 posted on 02/07/2013 2:56:44 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: jazusamo
Bravo, Cardinal Dolan!

Does anyone have the pic of the Spine Crozier?



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

18 posted on 02/07/2013 3:05:23 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: jazusamo

I have no objections to women who like to have sex, but why should I pay for their contraception.

I believe it is pretty well proven that even though contraception is available free there are still certain women too stupid to take advantage of it.

Certain men are who too dumb to protect themselves also.


19 posted on 02/07/2013 3:06:44 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Romulus; demsux
Demsux is right. The U.S. Catholic bishops have been adamant supporters of government-mandated health insurance for decades.

ObamaCare without the abortion/contraception/sterilization mandate isn't much more acceptable than ObamaCare as it is now set up. There is nothing in Catholic doctrine or tradition to support the notion that "Caesar" can compel one person to pay the medical expenses of another.

20 posted on 02/07/2013 3:18:07 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Venturer
Amen, Venturer! I was sitting in the waiting room at my doctor's office a few months ago and there was some woman talking to the receptionist bragging about how she would not have to pay for birth control under Obama-care. Absolutely disgusting!



Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

21 posted on 02/07/2013 3:21:11 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: demsux

“The Bishops” (whoever they are) did not support Obamacare. I’m sure there were a few lefty flakes, but the majority knew it was going to be a problem because of its scope.

Would they like some kind of comprehensive health care program? Probably, but who wouldn’t? Rush was talking about the head of Johns Hopkins neurosurgery, who spoke at the prayer breakfast and urged MSAs for everyone (Medical Savings Accounts), which would not only get the goal of medical coverage, but cost less and put it in the hands of individuals.

The fact that we haven’t come up with a good answer is what allowed Obama to build up the popular support to stampede the Dems (many of whom had reservations) into voting for this.

We have to be proactive in dealing with problems, and not sit around and carp because a solution may not be perfect -— and then end up with something far worse because we have done nothing and supported nothing.

If anything, I’d say the big problem was that the bishops didn’t give it a lot of thought. Nobody believed that it was going to pass.


22 posted on 02/07/2013 3:26:03 PM PST by livius
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To: Romulus

The Cardinal, and American Catholics, are getting what they voted for. Now they’re whining “but this isn’t what we meant!”. I’ll support the Cardinal. After all better late than never I suppose. But he owns this mess as much as Obama.


23 posted on 02/07/2013 3:27:11 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

Why does the Government have to tie in Birth Control with Insurance and force us to pay for it.

If they wish to give it away just shut up and give it away, have it at the door of the drug store and let anyone help themselves paid for by taxes.Don’t claim that my insurance pays for it,

Certainly we all know that Government pays for abortions from our taxes, There is no way that any religion can beat that although it lets them say they don’t like it. To have an Insurance sold to Catholics or anyone else and say it has to pay for Birth Control is plain stupid.


24 posted on 02/07/2013 3:30:54 PM PST by Venturer
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To: jazusamo

Obama is like a tyrant forcing Catholics to take an oath against their conscience.

25 posted on 02/07/2013 3:32:23 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Venturer




Keep Faith with the Fallen of Benghazi! Let the Obama Regime, for once, tell the Truth!

Fiat Justitia, Ruat Coelum!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

26 posted on 02/07/2013 3:43:05 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: jazusamo

Pray that Cardinal Dolan has the courage to stay on this course.


27 posted on 02/07/2013 3:47:02 PM PST by ardara
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To: Slyfox

Every time I see this picture, it reminds me of the same “evil looking” eyes as those people who flew planes into our buildings!


28 posted on 02/07/2013 3:54:10 PM PST by neverbluffer
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To: jazusamo
“We cannot—we will not—comply with this unjust law.”

Two things.

1. Since 1913, the Bishops have been pushing for socialized medicine. Well, they (and we) finally got it Now they don't like it (rightly so). They're a little late with their objections.

2. Would they likewise object to an unjust law against firearms? Somehow they've never impressed me as 2nd Amendment advocates.

29 posted on 02/07/2013 3:58:18 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: neverbluffer

When I see that photo I think of someone who has a heart of flint.


30 posted on 02/07/2013 3:59:42 PM PST by Slyfox (The key to Marxism is medicine - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Lurker

“But he owns this mess as much as Obama.”

Absolutely, and if they didn’t take a stand now (since they seem to have gotten their own exemptions) it would be seen for what it really was: universal healthcare with all the Devil’s bells & whistles, but the Church wouldn’t have to pay. I’ve seen similar duplicity when it comes to religious school teachers unionizing; what’s good for the goose is apparently not good for the gander (and the gander fights it tooth and nail).


31 posted on 02/07/2013 4:15:55 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: mortal19440
The Bishops spoke out about electing Obama the first time around.

Over 100 Bishops Have Spoken Out on Priority of Life Issues
Posted on October 28, 2008, 11:59 AM | Deal W. Hudson
The list of U. S. bishops who have spoken out on the priority of the life issues in this election is now over 100. The list now contains 70 individual bishops and three joint statements.
I would like to continue updating this list until the day of the election. I have tried to incorporate all the comments thus far. If I dd not get them all, I apologize. (For a few of the suggestions, I could not find a suitable link.)
Please continue using the comments section to let us know what bishop is not on this list who should be. This would include any bishop who has individually, or jointly, published a statement about this election pointing out the primacy of the life issues.
Thank you for your help.
1. Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver
2. Bishop James Conley, auxiliary of Denver
3. Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C.
4. Justin Cardinal Rigali of Philadelphia, chairman of the Committee on Pro-Life Activities
5. Bishop William Lori of Bridgeport, chairman of the Committee on Doctrine
6. Edward Cardinal Egan of New York
7. Bishop Samuel Aquila of Fargo
8. Bishop David Zubik of Pittsburgh
9. Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs
10. Archbishop Jose Gomez of San Antonio
11. Bishop Oscar Cantu, auxiliary of San Antonio
12. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Centre
13. Bishop Edward Slattery of Tulsa
14. Bishop Kevin Farrell of Dallas
15. Bishop Gregory Aymond of Austin
16. Sean Cardinal O'Malley of Boston
17. Bishop Thomas Wenski of Orlando
18. Archbishop John Nienstedt of Saint Paul/Minneapolis
19. Francis Cardinal George of Chicago, President of the USCCB
20. Bishop Robert Vasa of Baker
21. Bishop Jerome Listecki of La Crosse
22. Bishop Richard Lennon of Cleveland
23. Bishop Ralph Nickless of Sioux City
24. Archbishop George Niederauer of San Francisco
25. Bishop Glen Provost of Lake Charles, LA
26. Bishop Nicholas DiMarzio of Brooklyn
27. Bishop Joseph F. Martino of Scranton
28. Archbishop Raymond Burke, Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura
30. Bishop Peter J. Jugis of Charlotte
31. Bishop Michael F. Burbidge of Raleigh
32. Archbishop Joseph Naumann of Kansas City, KS
33. Bishop Robert Finn of Kansas City-St. Joseph, MO
34. Bishop Robert C. Morlino of Madison, WS
35. Bishop Ronald
Gilmore of Dodge City, KS
36. Bishop Paul
Coakley of Salina, KS
37. Bishop Michael
Jackels of Wichita
38. Bishop Gerald M.
Barbarito of Palm Beach
39. Bishop Kevin W.
Vann of Fort Worth
40. Bishop Rene H. Gracida, retired, of Corpus Christi
41. Daniel Cardinal DiNardo of Houston
42. Bishop Paul S. Loverde of Arlington
43. Bishop Francis X. DiLorenzo of Richmond
44. Bishop William Murphy of Rockville Center
45. Bishop Robert McManus of Worcester
46. Bishop Arthur Serratelli of Patterson
47. Bishop Robert Herrmann of St. Louis
48. Archbishop Edwin O'Brien of Baltimore
49. Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted of Phoenix
50. Bishop Thomas D. Doran of Rockford
51. Bishop Joseph A. Galante of Camden
52. Bishop Robert J. Baker of Birmingham
53. Archbishop Alexander J. Brunett of Seattle
54. Bishop J. Peter Sartain of Joliet
55. Bishop John M. Smith of Trenton
56. Bishop Earl Boyea of Lansing
57. Bishop Leonard R. Blair of Toledo
58. Bishop Frances J. Dewane of Venice
59. Bishop W. Frances Malooly of Wilmington
60. Bishop Robert Morlino of Madison
61. Bishop John Yanta , retired, of Amarillo
62. Bishop James V. Johnston of Springfield-Cape Girardeau
63. Archbishop John Vlazny of Portland
64. Bishop Blase J. Cupich of Rapid City
65. Bishop Lawrence Brandt of Greensburg
66. Bishop Dennis M. Schnurr of Cincinatti
67. Bishop Larry Silva of Honolulu
68. Bishop Paul Swain of Sioux Falls
69. Bishop Michael J. Sheehan of Santa Fe
70. Bishop Eusebius Beltran of Oklahoma City
71. Bishop Kevin C. Rhoades of Harrisburg
72-94. Joint Statement by the bishops of New York State (22 bishops)
95-111. Joint Statement by the bishops of Pennsylvania (16 bishops)
112-116. Joint Statement by the bishops of Kansas (4 bishops)
117-126. Joint Statement by the bishops of Florida (9 bishops)
Added by me
 
127. Bishop Tobin -- http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=30333 ^
 
128. Archbishop Wilton Gregory  georgiabulletin.org ...
 
 
130. Archbishop Elden Curtiss Omaha http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2123119/posts?page=1
 
131. Bishop Carlson's of Michigan pastoral letter in full, go to:
http://www.saginaw.org/images/election-statement_carlson_102...

 

32 posted on 02/07/2013 5:24:27 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Lurker

8 out of 10 white Protestants voted for Romney...95% of black Protestants voted for Obama...


33 posted on 02/07/2013 5:27:57 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JoeFromSidney

I agree.
Most Catholics have no bloody idea what the faith means. The Church is reaping the harvest of 50 years of poor catechist and weak seminary. It’s all mushy and meaningless. For too many Catholics, their faith is the Democratic Party. These folks will march blissfully into a totalitarian atheistic hell hole of their own making and never look at the larger moral implications. When the hierarchy finally make an attempt to turn the ship about, they’ll discover that they lost control long ago.
When I hear someone say the words “social justice” I just stop listening, because I know that is all they think there is. If you bring up the subject of evil to them, their eyes glaze over because they believe it to belong to an ancient mythology. When they speak the Creed at Mass do they listen to what they’re affirming?
Apologies for the rant...just upset Catholic.


34 posted on 02/07/2013 5:43:45 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: jazusamo; xzins; wagglebee

So will Obama order a drone strike against Cardinal Dolan?


35 posted on 02/07/2013 5:46:00 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

36 posted on 02/07/2013 5:52:46 PM PST by narses
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To: jazusamo

Bookmark.


37 posted on 02/07/2013 5:54:18 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Good luck getting “Nuns on the Bus” Catholics to sign on.

More of those than these....please don’t flame this Catholic.


38 posted on 02/07/2013 5:58:23 PM PST by EnquiringMind (th)
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To: Alberta's Child; Romulus; demsux
The U.S. Catholic bishops have been adamant supporters of government-mandated health insurance for decades.

That's different. Abortion and contraception is not health care.

39 posted on 02/07/2013 6:17:15 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: P-Marlowe
So will Obama order a drone strike against Cardinal Dolan?

If he did, would that make him Ordinal Dolan?

40 posted on 02/07/2013 6:23:11 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Venturer
Why does the Government have to tie in Birth Control with Insurance and force us to pay for it.

Because nobama is a Marxist, maniacal, arrogant, narcissist that has no use for religion, Catholic or otherwise. So, just because he feels all-powerful and thinks he can, he attempts to ram this unconstitutional POS down our throats.

Pray he doesn't succeed. If he does it will be a long downhill slide from here.

At the rate we're going, eventually there will be a straw that breaks the camel's back. I hope this is not it.

41 posted on 02/07/2013 6:50:17 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: 353FMG
Were they not Christians who voted for Obama and put him on the throne?

IMO.... No, not really born-again, discerning Christians, if they could not understand that their vote for any demoRAT but especially 0dumb0 was & is a vote for killing millions of babies through abortion & infanticide, advocating a pro-homo/pro-lesbian lifestyle, embracing Islam as the most favored religion in the world, hating Christianity and hating America. That is what any democRAT voter indicates to me.

42 posted on 02/07/2013 8:34:59 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: jazusamo; nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...

Catholic Ping!


43 posted on 02/07/2013 8:48:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: demsux

Great, go pout elsewhere. We don’t care.

Anyone else with balls who wants to stand with us? Stand and be counted!


44 posted on 02/07/2013 8:55:16 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Salvation

Amen, Salvation. Amen. People here given a choice between the Catholic church and Obama love Obama more.


45 posted on 02/07/2013 8:57:08 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: jazusamo

Thank you Cardinal Dolan!


46 posted on 02/07/2013 8:58:53 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: jazusamo

Nice, the Catholic Bishops discovered the Laity.


47 posted on 02/07/2013 9:08:29 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: ConorMacNessa

DUDE! That is down right creepy! Truthful but creepy!


48 posted on 02/07/2013 9:31:07 PM PST by Morgana (This space for rent.)
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To: mortal19440
Which American cardinal(s) EVER announced in favor of Obamacare? For your convenience, I have listed below the active and retired American cardinals as I remember them.

Our non-retired cardinals residing in the United States include Timothy Cardinal Dolan of New York, Sean Cardinal O'Malley of Boston, Daniel Cardinal DiNardo of Galveston-Houston, Francis Cardinal George of Chicago, and Donald Cardinal Wuerl of Washington, D.C.

Retired cardinals residing here include Edward Cardinal Egan formerly of New York, Theodore Cardinal McCarrick, formerly of Washington, D.C., Justin Cardinal Rigali, formerly of Philadelphia, Roger Cardinal Mahoney, formerly of Los Angeles, William Cardinal Levada, formerly of San Francisco who became a cardinal after his appointment to head the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in the Vatican.

There are two active American cardinals in the Vatican James Cardinal Harvey of the Papal Household, and Raymond Cardinal Burke , former archbishop of St. Louis, who was made a cardinal during his current service as Chief Justice of the Signatura which is the Church's supreme court.

I believe there are two retired American cardinals residing in the Vatican and they are Francis Cardinal Stafford, formerly of Denver, and Bernard Cardinal Law, formerly of Boston.

If I have not listed each living American cardinal, the omission is unintentional and I apologize for any omission.

49 posted on 02/07/2013 10:04:21 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: demsux
See #49 and also, WHICH bishops do you CLAIM supported OBAMACARE??? Remember Obamacare is the one that requires employer insurance funded surgical abortion, chemical abortion, IUD abortion, "morning after pill" abortion, etc.

I have little doubt that many bishops don't know any better than to support a general concept of "socialized medicine." They may well favor "single payer" and may be disappointed by Obozo on that score as well. Such bishops display economic ignorance which is different from the moral ignorance needed to support Obozocare.

If you cannot back your claim, you owe the bishops and Catholics generally an apology. If you CAN back your claim, any bishop supporting Obozocare owes all Catholics, you and all Americans an apology. Any bishop who backed Obozocare ought to resign as well.

50 posted on 02/07/2013 10:23:21 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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