Posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I don’t like Morris but voter fraud wasn’t Dick’s fault.
Ever hear the expression “bet your job”? Well, Morris did, and lost.
I know most FReepers hate both Morris and Rove, there’s really no comparison, given Rove’s campaign and WH experience. Morris has been a book/tv hack much longer than he worked for Clinton.
From RINO HUME to Benedict Rove to RomneyPhile Wallace,
Fox News is totally Faux-Conservative and
actually run by Liberals who work for Obama and the DNC.
So FNC wants to pretend that Rove is a “conservative” commentator?
It is true that Dick Morris predicted a landslide victory for Romney as did many others including me. We were all operating under a basic political preconception: “It’s the economy, stupid.” Which of course came from James Carville.
Little did we know the dynamic had changed and now it’s the demographics, stupid. That was Morris’s big mistake. Many people now WANT higher taxes (on others) and bigger government. It’s the demographics, stupid. OK we get it.
“Booooooo” on the second!
What a waste of airtime.
Morris failed to take voter fraud into account. That’s a serious mistake for a Democrat.
Ailes and Rove and other former Bushies
Bush loving freepers have fun with it all...”Rove is so magnificent” and all that crap...bastard is a better word..a stone cold moderate hungry to keep power is all he is
They are dead serious about keeping control of the GOP...Ailes has more singular power in the GOP than anyone else
even though they have lost the popular vote every time since 1992 except once
RE: Little did we know the dynamic had changed and now it’s the demographics
Who woulda thunk that Michael Barone, one of America’s foremost demographic observers would get it wrong too?
Here are some of the folks FReepers tended to trust who got it wrong last November ( as far as I can remember ):
Karl Rove,
High Hewitt,
Dick Morris,
Wayne Allyn Root (Las Vegas odds maker who claims he’s seldom wrong)
Gallup,
Rasmussen
(add your name or organization here ).
The two most correct predictors:
Nate Silver of the NY Times
INTRADE Market
Damn, they should have dumped them both!
Yup. Dick Morris is in good company.
They fired the wrong guy, IMO. Should’ve dumped Tokyo Rove.
Rove had a good interview on hanity last night.
He did state he waned articulate and not candidates who make foolish mistakes.
lets face it folk, rove or no-rove, there are inarticulate opportunists out there who prey on low IQ republican club conservative types to weasel their way into an election by knocking out a weak rino.
Is ROVE sponsoring a candidate school/seminar?
MUCH MORE.
I won’t notice since I stopped watching all the news shows, and especially the commentary shows. There’s nothing they talk about that I haven’t heard about already or that I can’t see later via Hotair, Freedomslighthouse, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Youtube, etc.
Rove represents everything that was wrong with Bush, and now FOX is doubling down on that action. Since the Republicans lost, FOX must figure a guy with a losing record like Rove best represents the status quo.
Rove steers left of conservatives, arguing he and his group(s) choose electable conservatives whose message is reached by so-called Republican 'moderates'.
So . . .What criteria identifies a Repubican as 'moderate'? A Republican moderate is a potential voter who checks with the all-too-apparent-progressive-msm before taking a stand.
Conservative radio host, Mark Levin gave Rove a much deserved verbal-kick-in-his-political-sac. audio here
I didn't think it would be a landslide, but I did think that Romney would win. I'm convinced that Hurricane Sandy, along with Chris Christie's glowing comments about Obama, and stroll along the beach, convinced enough undecideds that maybe Obama wasn't such a bad president ater all, and we should stick with him. Had it not been for Christie, I think Romney would be the President today.
This sentence CRIES OUT for the "Dick Morris Foot in Mouth" graphic! CRIES OUT!
Is Sean Vanity still on?
Glenn Beck's The Blaze also predicted a comfortable Romney win.
LOL, Free Republic is schizophrenic on this issue. Much of its readership blames the loss on running RINOs like Romney. Others like you blame it on demographics. It cannot be both. If the demographics have shifted in favor of a "gimme, gimme" electorate, then a more conservative candidate would have done even worse than Romney.
The media, Fox News included has been redefining the meaning of "conservative" and picking GOP Presidential candidates for years. I stopped watching FNC over 2 years ago. No cable news channel crosses my TV screen these days.
Come to think of it, I stopped watching around that same time
I don’t think the Hurricane made that much of a difference. It basically impacted a few states that probably what have voted blue, NY, NJ, CT, even if had not occurred.
What was truly surprsing to me were states like VA, OH, FL, and CO which I thought Romney would easily carry. I also thought Romney and Ryan would make a breakthrough in the upper Midwest in places like WI and MI where they both have strong ties and IA which sometimes vote GOP and I even thought Illinois too because the Dems bankrupted that state.
Given Mitt’s Northeast background, I also thought we could pick up a few states in that region as well such as NH and ME. Given Mitt’s LDS affiliation, I thought we would do better in some of the Western states including NV, CO, and NM.
Truthfully, I am utterly clueless in this new political environment and don’t even recognize my country anymore, it’s culture or its politics. A complete disconnect. I was as wrong as Morris. So I won’t be too tough on him.
it would not have been worse to energize the conservative base, which Romney would never do
Don’t know the deal with Rove, but I know Morris has been wrong about just about everything he predicted. I’m glad to see him go, I really hate the sideways mouth-shovel he does when he talks.
Never really knew how to take Dick Morris considering his big ties to klintoon before he landed at FNC and sounded almost too GOP.
Will be interesting what his stance will be at CNN. That should clarify the true Dick Morris.
Fox has become a boring network. Kucinich comes on in the am I shut the damn thing off. Juan Williams comes on, it gets shut off. They’ve bent over backwards to accomodate the left, who won’t watch them anyway, that they are losing their base.
Sean is still on...until Obama takes him out with a drone strike.
Any candidate is likely to make a gaffe in the course of a campaign. The problem Republicans have is that the Democrats' gaffes are covered up by the media whereas their gaffes are magnified and endlessly repeated.
Yup. Absolutely no different from MSNBC.
RE: Will be interesting what his stance will be at CNN.
Is CNN considering making Morris an offer?
HA-HA, Hannity’s other buddy Morris.
He predicted there was zero % chance O would be re-elected. ZERO!
Hated Morris. Half the time he was on he was either hawking another book or plugging his website.
I turned the news off on Nov 7th and pick and choose what to read
I agree with you. Turning away from FNC a lot these days since last November. More fun watching Andrew Zimmern eating live bugs on Bizarre Foods, or Anthony Bourdain dispatching a live pig on No Reservations, or Bobo relentlessly squatching on Animal Planet than watching all of the clowns on FNC. BOR is Ted Baxter all over again. Insufferable. He thinks Romney lost because he didn’t appear on the Factor.
Don’t watch Fox much anymore. Anytime I turn it on they have some liberal talking head on and I can’t stand to listen to them.
When Rove comes on my finger just flicks the channel automatically. Sorry, can’t do anything about it.
You have to remember that The One won with 50.6% of the vote — what he now laughingly calls a “mandate.” He won by being much shrewder in identifying local politics and thus gaining a huge electoral win. Romney’s vaunted Orca was built to win the useless national popular vote, which it almost did. Politics now are strictly local but the Repubs continue to shout Big Ideas when Local Ideas are what win an election.
Yes, yes, and yes. Fox has become largely unwatchable. Why tune-in to see some brain dead liberal screaming over a conservative to screech that guns must be confiscated?
...Fox News is totally Faux-Conservative ....
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Yep, which is why Greta’s show is the only one I consistently watch. The husband DVRs and watches “Fox and Friends”, “Special Report”, and “O’Reilly”, and I occasionally hear parts of it while I am in another room on the ‘puter.
They lost me a while back. I was taken in for quite a long time, but they have shown their true colors.
They've been pretty quite of late, though....
Their talk is all about winning, but I notice none of their talk is about what’s good for America. Just about winning.
Seems the right focus is missing in their talk.
We need the likes of DeMint, and Palin who talk about American worth, and value, AND winning.
Mainstream Pollsters - 2
Freepers In Denial - 0
A finding we should keep firmly in mind in future.
I haven’t watched FNN since 2008. Looks like I haven’t missed much.
I don’t really get your point. It wouldn’t matter if Morris had been with Clinton only a day were he a good tv hack. Likewise, I don’t care if Rove was Cardinal Richelieu if he sucks on tv, which he does. Judging which one sucks worse is like arguing over how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.
There has been a strong tendency for politicians to slide on over into news commentary, or straight news if they’re still libs like Stefapopolus. But I don’t see any real connection between having been the architect of Bushy failure for eight years and commenting on the day’s events. Unless they were to bring their unique knowledge of “inside baseball” to bear. Either they don’t, or inside politics is just as hiring as superficial politics. Either way, I don’t see any advantage to Rove’s having been within the halls of power longer.
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