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Fox News Dumps Dick Morris, Renews Karl Rove
American Thinker ^ | 02/06/2013 | J. Robert Smith

Posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/06/2013 7:42:51 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t like Morris but voter fraud wasn’t Dick’s fault.


2 posted on 02/06/2013 7:45:35 AM PST by albie
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To: SeekAndFind

Ever hear the expression “bet your job”? Well, Morris did, and lost.

I know most FReepers hate both Morris and Rove, there’s really no comparison, given Rove’s campaign and WH experience. Morris has been a book/tv hack much longer than he worked for Clinton.


3 posted on 02/06/2013 7:46:02 AM PST by bigbob
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To: SeekAndFind

From RINO HUME to Benedict Rove to RomneyPhile Wallace,
Fox News is totally Faux-Conservative and
actually run by Liberals who work for Obama and the DNC.


4 posted on 02/06/2013 7:46:36 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: SeekAndFind

So FNC wants to pretend that Rove is a “conservative” commentator?


5 posted on 02/06/2013 7:46:36 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is true that Dick Morris predicted a landslide victory for Romney as did many others including me. We were all operating under a basic political preconception: “It’s the economy, stupid.” Which of course came from James Carville.

Little did we know the dynamic had changed and now it’s the demographics, stupid. That was Morris’s big mistake. Many people now WANT higher taxes (on others) and bigger government. It’s the demographics, stupid. OK we get it.


6 posted on 02/06/2013 7:47:45 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

“Booooooo” on the second!

What a waste of airtime.


7 posted on 02/06/2013 7:51:00 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Morris failed to take voter fraud into account. That’s a serious mistake for a Democrat.


8 posted on 02/06/2013 7:51:19 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ailes and Rove and other former Bushies

Bush loving freepers have fun with it all...”Rove is so magnificent” and all that crap...bastard is a better word..a stone cold moderate hungry to keep power is all he is

They are dead serious about keeping control of the GOP...Ailes has more singular power in the GOP than anyone else

even though they have lost the popular vote every time since 1992 except once


9 posted on 02/06/2013 7:51:40 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

RE: Little did we know the dynamic had changed and now it’s the demographics

Who woulda thunk that Michael Barone, one of America’s foremost demographic observers would get it wrong too?

Here are some of the folks FReepers tended to trust who got it wrong last November ( as far as I can remember ):

Karl Rove,
High Hewitt,
Dick Morris,
Wayne Allyn Root (Las Vegas odds maker who claims he’s seldom wrong)
Gallup,
Rasmussen

(add your name or organization here ).

The two most correct predictors:

Nate Silver of the NY Times

INTRADE Market


10 posted on 02/06/2013 7:57:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Damn, they should have dumped them both!


11 posted on 02/06/2013 7:59:02 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yup. Dick Morris is in good company.


12 posted on 02/06/2013 8:00:42 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

They fired the wrong guy, IMO. Should’ve dumped Tokyo Rove.


13 posted on 02/06/2013 8:02:01 AM PST by Jane Long
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To: All

Rove had a good interview on hanity last night.

He did state he waned articulate and not candidates who make foolish mistakes.

lets face it folk, rove or no-rove, there are inarticulate opportunists out there who prey on low IQ republican club conservative types to weasel their way into an election by knocking out a weak rino.

Is ROVE sponsoring a candidate school/seminar?


14 posted on 02/06/2013 8:05:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: bigbob
No...no comparison. Rove is MUCH MORE dangerous to the conservative movement than Morris is. He is an enemy of the conservative wing of the GOP. Morris is not.

MUCH MORE.

15 posted on 02/06/2013 8:05:51 AM PST by NELSON111
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To: SeekAndFind

I won’t notice since I stopped watching all the news shows, and especially the commentary shows. There’s nothing they talk about that I haven’t heard about already or that I can’t see later via Hotair, Freedomslighthouse, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Youtube, etc.


16 posted on 02/06/2013 8:11:36 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: SeekAndFind

Rove represents everything that was wrong with Bush, and now FOX is doubling down on that action. Since the Republicans lost, FOX must figure a guy with a losing record like Rove best represents the status quo.


17 posted on 02/06/2013 8:12:27 AM PST by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind
Keeping Rove is in line with keeping the msm relevant.

Rove steers left of conservatives, arguing he and his group(s) choose electable conservatives whose message is reached by so-called Republican 'moderates'.

So . . .What criteria identifies a Repubican as 'moderate'? A Republican moderate is a potential voter who checks with the all-too-apparent-progressive-msm before taking a stand.

Conservative radio host, Mark Levin gave Rove a much deserved verbal-kick-in-his-political-sac. audio here

18 posted on 02/06/2013 8:16:35 AM PST by wtd
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To: SeekAndFind
Morris (canned) fired; Rove Hired (remains) @ FNC...
the (Marxi$t $ociali$t) E$tabli$tment Party wins again.

19 posted on 02/06/2013 8:16:56 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
It is true that Dick Morris predicted a landslide victory for Romney as did many others including me. We were all operating under a basic political preconception: “It’s the economy, stupid.” Which of course came from James Carville.

I didn't think it would be a landslide, but I did think that Romney would win. I'm convinced that Hurricane Sandy, along with Chris Christie's glowing comments about Obama, and stroll along the beach, convinced enough undecideds that maybe Obama wasn't such a bad president ater all, and we should stick with him. Had it not been for Christie, I think Romney would be the President today.

20 posted on 02/06/2013 8:20:35 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: SeekAndFind
Morris was glaringly wrong on the outcome of the 2012 presidential contest

This sentence CRIES OUT for the "Dick Morris Foot in Mouth" graphic! CRIES OUT!

21 posted on 02/06/2013 8:21:54 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: longtermmemmory

Is Sean Vanity still on?


22 posted on 02/06/2013 8:24:12 AM PST by certrtwngnut (')
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To: SeekAndFind
the oddly named Conservative Victory Project
"Wa$hington D.C. E$tabli$hment" Conservative Victory...fixed...

23 posted on 02/06/2013 8:25:31 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: SeekAndFind
(add your name or organization here ).

Glenn Beck's The Blaze also predicted a comfortable Romney win.

24 posted on 02/06/2013 8:26:59 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Little did we know the dynamic had changed and now it’s the demographics, stupid. That was Morris’s big mistake. Many people now WANT higher taxes (on others) and bigger government. It’s the demographics, stupid. OK we get it.

LOL, Free Republic is schizophrenic on this issue. Much of its readership blames the loss on running RINOs like Romney. Others like you blame it on demographics. It cannot be both. If the demographics have shifted in favor of a "gimme, gimme" electorate, then a more conservative candidate would have done even worse than Romney.

25 posted on 02/06/2013 8:30:20 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: GeronL
"So FNC wants to pretend that Rove is a “conservative” commentator?"

The media, Fox News included has been redefining the meaning of "conservative" and picking GOP Presidential candidates for years. I stopped watching FNC over 2 years ago. No cable news channel crosses my TV screen these days.

26 posted on 02/06/2013 8:34:39 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Come to think of it, I stopped watching around that same time


27 posted on 02/06/2013 8:36:51 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GreenHornet

I don’t think the Hurricane made that much of a difference. It basically impacted a few states that probably what have voted blue, NY, NJ, CT, even if had not occurred.

What was truly surprsing to me were states like VA, OH, FL, and CO which I thought Romney would easily carry. I also thought Romney and Ryan would make a breakthrough in the upper Midwest in places like WI and MI where they both have strong ties and IA which sometimes vote GOP and I even thought Illinois too because the Dems bankrupted that state.

Given Mitt’s Northeast background, I also thought we could pick up a few states in that region as well such as NH and ME. Given Mitt’s LDS affiliation, I thought we would do better in some of the Western states including NV, CO, and NM.

Truthfully, I am utterly clueless in this new political environment and don’t even recognize my country anymore, it’s culture or its politics. A complete disconnect. I was as wrong as Morris. So I won’t be too tough on him.


28 posted on 02/06/2013 8:38:55 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Sans-Culotte

it would not have been worse to energize the conservative base, which Romney would never do


29 posted on 02/06/2013 8:42:05 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t know the deal with Rove, but I know Morris has been wrong about just about everything he predicted. I’m glad to see him go, I really hate the sideways mouth-shovel he does when he talks.


30 posted on 02/06/2013 8:42:45 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Never really knew how to take Dick Morris considering his big ties to klintoon before he landed at FNC and sounded almost too GOP.

Will be interesting what his stance will be at CNN. That should clarify the true Dick Morris.


31 posted on 02/06/2013 8:44:43 AM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fox has become a boring network. Kucinich comes on in the am I shut the damn thing off. Juan Williams comes on, it gets shut off. They’ve bent over backwards to accomodate the left, who won’t watch them anyway, that they are losing their base.


32 posted on 02/06/2013 8:45:34 AM PST by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: certrtwngnut

Sean is still on...until Obama takes him out with a drone strike.


33 posted on 02/06/2013 8:45:36 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: longtermmemmory
That was an interesting interview. Rove had his white board with all the sums they donated to Tea Party candidates. He claims that they follow Buckley's rule--support the most conservative candidate who can actually win.

Any candidate is likely to make a gaffe in the course of a campaign. The problem Republicans have is that the Democrats' gaffes are covered up by the media whereas their gaffes are magnified and endlessly repeated.

34 posted on 02/06/2013 8:49:29 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Diogenesis

Yup. Absolutely no different from MSNBC.


35 posted on 02/06/2013 8:49:52 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: X-spurt

RE: Will be interesting what his stance will be at CNN.

Is CNN considering making Morris an offer?


36 posted on 02/06/2013 8:50:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

HA-HA, Hannity’s other buddy Morris.

He predicted there was zero % chance O would be re-elected. ZERO!


37 posted on 02/06/2013 8:50:52 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hated Morris. Half the time he was on he was either hawking another book or plugging his website.


38 posted on 02/06/2013 8:51:33 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: bigbob

I turned the news off on Nov 7th and pick and choose what to read


39 posted on 02/06/2013 8:53:05 AM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: kenmcg

I agree with you. Turning away from FNC a lot these days since last November. More fun watching Andrew Zimmern eating live bugs on Bizarre Foods, or Anthony Bourdain dispatching a live pig on No Reservations, or Bobo relentlessly squatching on Animal Planet than watching all of the clowns on FNC. BOR is Ted Baxter all over again. Insufferable. He thinks Romney lost because he didn’t appear on the Factor.


40 posted on 02/06/2013 8:56:47 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t watch Fox much anymore. Anytime I turn it on they have some liberal talking head on and I can’t stand to listen to them.


41 posted on 02/06/2013 9:00:05 AM PST by Marathoner 244
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To: SeekAndFind

When Rove comes on my finger just flicks the channel automatically. Sorry, can’t do anything about it.


42 posted on 02/06/2013 9:02:18 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: SeekAndFind

You have to remember that The One won with 50.6% of the vote — what he now laughingly calls a “mandate.” He won by being much shrewder in identifying local politics and thus gaining a huge electoral win. Romney’s vaunted Orca was built to win the useless national popular vote, which it almost did. Politics now are strictly local but the Repubs continue to shout Big Ideas when Local Ideas are what win an election.


43 posted on 02/06/2013 9:04:40 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Marathoner 244

Yes, yes, and yes. Fox has become largely unwatchable. Why tune-in to see some brain dead liberal screaming over a conservative to screech that guns must be confiscated?


44 posted on 02/06/2013 9:07:21 AM PST by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: Diogenesis

...Fox News is totally Faux-Conservative ....

&&&
Yep, which is why Greta’s show is the only one I consistently watch. The husband DVRs and watches “Fox and Friends”, “Special Report”, and “O’Reilly”, and I occasionally hear parts of it while I am in another room on the ‘puter.

They lost me a while back. I was taken in for quite a long time, but they have shown their true colors.


45 posted on 02/06/2013 9:13:03 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: SeekAndFind
There were lots of self-styled conservatives here on FR who supported the bank bailouts and relentlessly trashed those of us who opposed them.

They've been pretty quite of late, though....

46 posted on 02/06/2013 9:34:07 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: SeekAndFind

Their talk is all about winning, but I notice none of their talk is about what’s good for America. Just about winning.

Seems the right focus is missing in their talk.

We need the likes of DeMint, and Palin who talk about American worth, and value, AND winning.


47 posted on 02/06/2013 9:36:41 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Considering the 2008 and 2012 elections, the current score is:

Mainstream Pollsters - 2

Freepers In Denial - 0

A finding we should keep firmly in mind in future.

48 posted on 02/06/2013 9:38:00 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: SeekAndFind

I haven’t watched FNN since 2008. Looks like I haven’t missed much.


49 posted on 02/06/2013 9:39:26 AM PST by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: bigbob

I don’t really get your point. It wouldn’t matter if Morris had been with Clinton only a day were he a good tv hack. Likewise, I don’t care if Rove was Cardinal Richelieu if he sucks on tv, which he does. Judging which one sucks worse is like arguing over how many angels can fit on the head of a pin.

There has been a strong tendency for politicians to slide on over into news commentary, or straight news if they’re still libs like Stefapopolus. But I don’t see any real connection between having been the architect of Bushy failure for eight years and commenting on the day’s events. Unless they were to bring their unique knowledge of “inside baseball” to bear. Either they don’t, or inside politics is just as hiring as superficial politics. Either way, I don’t see any advantage to Rove’s having been within the halls of power longer.


50 posted on 02/06/2013 9:44:04 AM PST by Tublecane
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