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Karl Rove surprises few in Fla. by picking fight with tea party
BizPacReview.com ^ | February 5, 2013 | Tom Tillison

Posted on 02/05/2013 9:01:59 AM PST by T.O.K.

The battle for the heart and soul of the Republican Party has begun, and at the center is none other than one-time political mastermind Karl Rove. For those of us who saw this coming last summer, such a revelation is of little surprise. “On one side is the Tea Party,” Breitbart.com’s Ben Shapiro wrote in an analysis Sunday. “On the other side stand Karl Rove and his establishment team, posing as tacticians while quietly undermining conservatism.” Shapiro’s commentary came in response to a New York Times report that Rove and Steven J. Law, president of American Crossroads, have joined forces with the “biggest donors in the Republican Party” to create the Conservative Victory Project. The group’s goal is to “recruit seasoned candidates and protect Senate incumbents from challenges by far-right conservatives and Tea Party enthusiasts who Republican leaders worry could complicate the party’s effort to win control of the Senate,” The Times reported. Shapiro identified Christine O’Donnell of Delaware and Richard Mourdock of Indiana as prime examples of tea party candidates who “complicate” Republican efforts. While I don’t disagree with the premise of Shapiro’s argument, I say, Where have you been?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: americancrossroads; florida; karlrove; politics; teaparty
I fear the longer and deeper the divide becomes between tea party and GOP, the more leverage the Dems get over us. Libs are loving this. I'm not sure what the answer is though.
1 posted on 02/05/2013 9:02:10 AM PST by T.O.K.
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To: T.O.K.

What’s a “Rove”?

I know what an Obama is. I take bodacious Obamas every day.

Oh, perhaps a “Rove” is what happens when you eat something rotten...then you run outside and heave a “Rove”.

Yup, that’s what it must be,


2 posted on 02/05/2013 9:06:37 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: T.O.K.

Thing is, it is becoming clearer and clearer that the GOP and Dems are two sides of the same coin. I’m starting to feel like a danged hippie. Come to think of it, true conservatives are the only ones that embrace the one thing the hippies got right:

Question authority.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 9:07:35 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: T.O.K.

The GOP has been moderated into a coma and Karl Rove is pinching the feeding tube as the democrats happily goose step their way to full on fascism.

Seems to me that Karl Rove is helping the democrats more than anyone.


4 posted on 02/05/2013 9:09:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: T.O.K.

Didn’t Karl Rove earn 30-40- million the last election while Romney went down and the campaign got ripped off by all kinds of cynical profiteering campaign advisers and TV advertizing buyers


5 posted on 02/05/2013 9:11:55 AM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: T.O.K.

The answer to Rove and the GOP moderates?

Conan: “To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.”

Seriously, though. We should fight in the primaries to nominate the most articulate, conservative candidates. If we’re unfortunate enough to lose to a squish, then we should then vote to elect the lesser of two evils. However, we really need to give the moderates, especially unhinged incumbents like McCain, a serious run for their money in the primaries. Make ‘em earn it if nothing else!


6 posted on 02/05/2013 9:13:10 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: T.O.K.
Shapiro identified Christine O’Donnell of Delaware and Richard Mourdock of Indiana as prime examples of tea party candidates who “complicate” Republican efforts.

The "logic" is astounding. If O'Donnell and Mourdock are indictments of the TEA Party, then why isn't every establishment Republican who loses a winnable race (McCain and Romney come immediately to mind) an indictment of the establishment?

7 posted on 02/05/2013 9:13:55 AM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: kevkrom

Good point:o)


8 posted on 02/05/2013 9:17:01 AM PST by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: cripplecreek

Crappola,
Rove is helping Rove.
These “establishment” pubbies are in it for the money. NOt a conservative idea


9 posted on 02/05/2013 9:21:26 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: cuban leaf

Thing is, it is becoming clearer and clearer that the GOP and Dems are two sides of the same coin.

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For nearly a century, yes. The last time there was a real qualitative difference was the 1920s. The Great Depression turned the Geriatric Old Plotters in punks. As an institution they’ve never recovered from that shock.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 9:21:40 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: T.O.K.

Shut up Karl.


11 posted on 02/05/2013 9:27:23 AM PST by DManA
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To: CitizenUSA

Maybe I’m wrong, but I won’t vote for the lesser of two evils. I would rather have no one than to give another spineless person power within the GOP system. All that does is further dilute any power conservatives might have within the GOP.

I would rather have no one than increase the denominator.

Conservatives/GOP = x%

Conservatives/(GOP +1 more RINO) = y%

Y is smaller than X.

...thus by voting for the “lesser of two evils” you are destroying any chance for conservatism in the GOP...in the long run.

Of course saving the conservative voice in the GOP is probably a bridge too far.


12 posted on 02/05/2013 9:29:34 AM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: dennisw

Did he? Don’t think I’m challenging you but I’d love to see some documentation on that.


13 posted on 02/05/2013 9:30:13 AM PST by DManA
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To: vmivol00
The problem is, when you don't vote, you get Obama and his ilk, which is the GREATER of two evils.

Maybe candidates like O'Donnell, Mourdock, Etc. did what they did to get attention, since they got absolutely no help or money from the Republican Party. They were punished because the "people" wanted them, not the GOPe,

14 posted on 02/05/2013 9:41:44 AM PST by anoldafvet
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To: cuban leaf

Mother should I trust the government?


15 posted on 02/05/2013 9:46:54 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: T.O.K.
"....I'm not sure what the answer is though....."

More and more, I think the "answer" is the establishment of the Tea Party as a bonafide, office-seeking political party.

It's time for a third party....a real American party. And let the chips fall where they may.

16 posted on 02/05/2013 9:48:50 AM PST by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: T.O.K.

It is time for a Tea Party PAC to fight the republican elitists.


17 posted on 02/05/2013 9:55:16 AM PST by JayAr36 (A compromise between good and evil ALWAYS BENEFITS EVIL)
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To: Victor
More and more, I think the "answer" is the establishment of the Tea Party as a bonafide, office-seeking political party.

It's time for a third party....a real American party. And let the chips fall where they may.

I agree.

18 posted on 02/05/2013 10:03:18 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: griswold3

Mother, did it need to be so high.


19 posted on 02/05/2013 10:05:46 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: T.O.K.

The Republican Party is rolling right along on its path of self destruction as half of it works to imitate Democrats, and the other half looks around for another party to join or create. It keeps soulless, unprincipled political pimps like Rove in the spotlight. Every halfwit wanting to smear conservatives with their populist pap becomes a star. ...One thing is for certain, a moderate, compromising Republican Party isn’t going to win elections, not come 2014, or 2016. It is walking assbackwards into the abyss while pretending to walk out.


20 posted on 02/05/2013 10:26:17 AM PST by pallis
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To: T.O.K.

No choice but to make tremendous headway towards discrediting Rove & Company by, and in 2014. There has to be massive support for other than the above which is whomever the GOPe selects for us.

TEA Party was a spontaneous movement of Americans against the establishment. It’s time to reactivate that American spirit again, and organize sufficiently to not detract from the spontaneity, but keep up the energy until election 2014.

That’s the only way I can see us winning at this point in time. Otherwise third party, and that breaks up the vote handing a win to the Democrats.


21 posted on 02/05/2013 10:31:11 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: T.O.K.
This will save me a lot of candidate research time. Instead of poring over long position statements, I can just look for the Rovian label. I'll instantly know who not to support.
22 posted on 02/05/2013 10:33:20 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: DManA

Here’s one article on Rove’s 2012 campaign earnings.... I have no idea if it’s accurate or not.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/11/08/why-we-may-never-know-how-much-money-karl-rove-made-running-crossroads


23 posted on 02/05/2013 10:37:20 AM PST by deport
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To: T.O.K.
Good for Rove, but a bit late...or is he?

It would have been nice to have this fight during the primary instead of having the eGOP go progressive and shut down debate. Too bad. Whatever might have came out of that primary discussion could have challenged Team obama on a more open field.

But, you know?..maybe it's better this way and at this time. You know...after they lost. Again.

After their ideas and their approach lost. Again.

What does the eGOP have to stand on other than a record of appeasement, political failure and record spending?

So, now Rove wants to fight about heart and soul? Great! Let's have that fight.

The eGOP's republican party stands for compromise and appeasement. Is that something you want to fight for? Or vote for?

Clearly, the answer has been "NO!!!"

The only way people say yes to that is if they are scared and have no other option, and even that wasn't enough this last time. Loyal Republicans still stayed home!

24 posted on 02/05/2013 11:06:20 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: anoldafvet

Rove and ilk are such slimeballs I bet they were not only denying $ and support to their disfavored TP candidates but were probably demonizing them and likely lent some sort of direct support to their DRat opponents. Cannot see ever voting for any Rovian puke candidates again.


25 posted on 02/05/2013 1:05:56 PM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: T.O.K.
“On one side is the Tea Party,” Breitbart.com’s Ben Shapiro wrote in an analysis Sunday. “On the other side stand Karl Rove and his establishment team, posing as tacticians while quietly undermining conservatism.”

There's nothing 'quiet' about it, Ben. It's war.

26 posted on 02/05/2013 1:09:12 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

My how things change.

I remember back around when I joined FR, the mantra here was

Rove you magnificent bastard. Now it’s

Rove you turd. (I agree)


27 posted on 02/05/2013 1:27:33 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Zombies Eat Brains. Half of FL is safe.)
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To: bicyclerepair
Rove you magnificent bastard.

There.

28 posted on 02/05/2013 1:51:52 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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