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Cop Out: Police forensic scientist at Newtown hearing slams 'assault weapons' ban
The Daily Caller ^ | February 4, 2013 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 02/04/2013 8:37:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The forensic scientist for the Bridgeport, Conn. Police Department sharply criticized proposed assault weapon and high-capacity magazine bans and pointed out the small number of crimes committed by high-capacity weapons in public hearing testimony last week.

Marshall K. Robinson, who said his area of expertise is “firearm and tool mark identification,” testified at the Gun Violence Prevention Working Group, which was convened at the Connecticut State Capitol in response to the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. There he opposed statements from many of the other 1,300 speakers in attendance advocating for banning high-capacity AR-15 and AK-47 firearms.

Robinson pointed out that less than two percent of the firearms he has examined since 1996 that have been linked to violent crime in Bridgeport have been the caliber of AR-15 or AK-47 weapons.

“Since November 1996, I have examined approximately 2,370 firearms. Of that number 36 of them were either .223/5.56 mm or 7.62×39 mm,” Robinson said. “The percentage of those guns was about [1.5 percent].”

“I did further research on homicides and assaults in the years 2006 to 2012 inclusive. Of the 217 such cases, there were 912 bullets and 466 cartridge cases recovered. One assault involved .223 caliber and none involved 7.63×39 mm caliber....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; awb; banglist; coonecticut; guncontrol; newtown; sandyhook; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
Wow.
1 posted on 02/04/2013 8:37:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the World Health Organization:

The latest Murder Statistics for the world:

Murders per 100,000 citizens

Honduras 91.6

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d’lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kits and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guyana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And

The United States 4.2

ALL the countries above America have 100% gun bans


2 posted on 02/04/2013 8:50:08 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Finally, the voice of sanity.
Thank you Marshall K. Robinson.


3 posted on 02/04/2013 8:51:50 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: gorush

Thanks for the list. Too bad the radical left wing extremist demokkkrats don’t care and will try to ridicule anybody that calls them on it.

Molon labe.


4 posted on 02/04/2013 8:56:32 PM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: gorush

b t t


5 posted on 02/04/2013 8:58:52 PM PST by GirlShortstop (Every person has a duty to seek and serve the truth. Abp Charles J. Chaput, OFMCap)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


6 posted on 02/04/2013 9:01:42 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bump for sending to my loony lib friends and relatives.

Won’t make any of them think rationally, but it will tick them off. They hate the truth.

Our local gun shop got some RRA AR15s in this week. I helped my sister and her husband get one of them. Ha ha, take that libs.

The shop is getting in a bunch of cases of Wolf WPA .223 tomorrow. I can’t decide if I should take a chance on it. The TulAmmo wouldn’t cycle in mine, have heard the Wolf is better. Any opinions folks?


7 posted on 02/04/2013 9:08:30 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bookmark.


8 posted on 02/04/2013 9:12:04 PM PST by dadfly
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To: Red Steel

Begin the countdown - it’s just a matter of time now until the left tries to smear or discredit this guy.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 9:21:41 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Wolf works fine for me.
Tula has been a problem.
Also avoid Herter’s (Its made by Tula)


10 posted on 02/04/2013 9:28:31 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

—ping—


11 posted on 02/04/2013 9:39:54 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: gorush

good post.


12 posted on 02/04/2013 9:43:21 PM PST by RC one (.From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bookmark.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 10:16:14 PM PST by Gator113 ( REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS and leave my guns alone!!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I’ve put thousands of rounds of Wolf and also S&B thru my Beretta 92 without a hiccup.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 10:17:45 PM PST by Rodney Dangerfield ("Don't ya just hate waiting in line at the Post Office? - Just wait until ObamaCare is implemented.")
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To: gorush

Wow!


15 posted on 02/04/2013 10:28:50 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Red Steel

Wow. After reading that letter, I only have one question.

How long before they find this guy laying in the street with a supposed cardiac arrest ?


16 posted on 02/04/2013 10:52:58 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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To: gorush

Bookmark and BTTT reply #2


17 posted on 02/05/2013 12:52:40 AM PST by deks ("...the battle...liberty against the overreach of the federal government" Ken Cuccinelli)
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To: gorush
Wow, do all those people I see on House Hunters International know about this?

We had better forward this to those folks running HGTV mucho pronto.

(Just a little Spanish lingo for our Hispanic audience)

18 posted on 02/05/2013 1:01:29 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“There he opposed statements from many of the other 1,300 speakers in attendance advocating for banning high-capacity AR-15 and AK-47 firearms.”

Blatant lie! Most of the speakers opposed any gun bans.

19 posted on 02/05/2013 3:52:25 AM PST by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I submit to you that you cannot legislate away insanity, which I think is the root cause of this case,” Robinson said. “Laws must be passed based on research and logical thinking, not on emotions.”

****
I am sure his statements will be covered all over cable news./sarc


20 posted on 02/05/2013 4:52:02 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Red Steel

Is the text of this letter - or a link to the scan on a website - available to be included in a letter to our legislators... and more importantly to the committee members where national legislation is now?


21 posted on 02/05/2013 4:53:37 AM PST by grobdriver (quences.)
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To: mylife

If his comments gain any traction in the media, how long before the give him the Joe the Plumber treatment?


22 posted on 02/05/2013 4:54:29 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: Bigg Red

the give him = they give him

(Wish there was an “edit” button.)


23 posted on 02/05/2013 4:55:59 AM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: UCANSEE2
How long before they find this guy laying in the street with a supposed cardiac arrest ?

No C.A. It will be by 7.62X39 to prove him wrong.

24 posted on 02/05/2013 5:22:47 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Heh, I sometimes will sit and watch one of those shows when my wife has them on. I often wonder how many of those people have any clue as to what kind of trouble lurks for them in those “beautiful” hell-holes!


25 posted on 02/05/2013 5:26:58 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"One assault involved .223 caliber and none involved 7.63×39 mm caliber...."

I'll go out on a limb here and say that it's no surprise at all that he has yet to encounter a crime where a "7.63 x39" was used. I'll go out even further on the limb and predict that he never will either. LOL!

26 posted on 02/05/2013 6:11:33 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: gorush

Thank you for the list. Bookmarked for later dissemination to liberal relatives...;-)


27 posted on 02/05/2013 6:47:27 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly (Dim Logic: "Let me vote Democrat. Hey, I got screwed! Let me vote Democrat. Hey, I got screwed!")
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To: gorush

I am curious what the timeframe is—It seems that in Chicago alone there are more murders per day than 4.2


28 posted on 02/05/2013 9:31:52 AM PST by patriotsblood
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I bought a load of Wolf for my Glock . I later learned that this ammo has a thin wax coating on the casing that, during heat build up in rapid fire, can melt and gum up the weapon. I never had it happen, but then again I didn’t push my luck.


29 posted on 02/05/2013 9:34:55 AM PST by patriotsblood
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To: patriotsblood; ChildOfThe60s

I ran Wolf .223 through a Bushmaster several years ago, with the resultant horrendous jam from the steel casing after five or six rounds.

It happened repeatedly. So much so, that I stopped using it. Fortunately, I only bought a few boxes of it. These weapons are designed for brass cased ammo. Just my opinion, but I recommend using what it was designed to use.

ComBloc guns are designed for steel cased ammo. Never had a single failure to feed or extract with Wolf, Tula, Golden Tiger, etc., in my ComBloc stuff.

Ran “Brown Bear” 9mm bimetal cased ammo through my Glock 19; gun heated up after a few rounds, and a case locked up in the chamber.

I Can only surmise that the coating the Russkies use on their ammo gummed up and caused the problems, in both situations. I’m pretty anal about my cleaning my firearms, so it wasn’t anything related to dirt/grime, going in.

Again, just my experience with it. Other folks may have had ZERO problems with it.


30 posted on 02/05/2013 10:02:23 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Steel-cased ammo plays HELL with extractors.
My worst nightmare is a FTE, rather than a FTF.

I can fix FTF by going single-shot, if need be.
But, if I can’t get a case out of the rifle ...


31 posted on 02/05/2013 11:45:19 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

I had a failure to extract coupled with the round behind it jamming at an angle in the chamber.

I invented new swear words that day along with more ancient curses, not uttered nor heard by human ears since the days of the Aztecs...

Effing nightmare, indeed... Never used steel case again, except where it was meant to be used...in Ivan’s guns.


32 posted on 02/05/2013 12:07:03 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

The AK round has a nice, steep taper to it, which aids in extraction. Not so much for the AR rounds. I think this is why steel works so well in the Rooskie cartridges, even with the lacquer.


33 posted on 02/05/2013 12:33:09 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE

“...I think this is why steel works so well in the Rooskie cartridges, ...”

That, and they’re designed from the getski-goeski (nyuk, nyuk, nyuk) to use steel. The extractors are brutally tough.


34 posted on 02/05/2013 12:58:23 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: mylife; Rodney Dangerfield; patriotsblood; NFHale; SJSAMPLE

Thanks for your comments of your experiences. My followup with my RRA LAR15:

First off, some time back I tried TulAmmo, futile, every 3rd round didn’t feed.

I ran 40 rounds of the Wolf WPA .223 through it today. Worked perfectly. Groups were nice.

I did note that the finished appearance of the steel cases was much better than the TulAmmo. I also did a thorough cleaning when I got back from the range. I went ahead and grabbed 200 more rounds to try in the next few weeks, weather permitting. I usually run 40-60 rounds through the AR per session. I’ll try to follow up after another session or two.


35 posted on 02/05/2013 5:32:04 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Wolf is pretty dirty but works fine. I use their “Military Classic” for plinking.
Just clean your rifle thoroughly at least every 500 rounds and you should be fine.


36 posted on 02/05/2013 5:48:37 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I usually clean after every session unless I plan on shooting within a couple of days or less. Got to maintain good habits.


37 posted on 02/05/2013 6:06:23 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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