Obama: Boy Scouts should admit gays and lesbians, opportunity should be open to all

Washington Post ^ | 02/04/2013

[SeekAndFind]

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama says the Boy Scouts of America should open its membership to gays and lesbians when its national executive board discusses the issue this week.

Obama praised the scouts as “a great institution” that promotes young people, giving them lifelong leadership training and opportunities. During a pre-Super Bowl interview on CBS, he said “no one should be barred from that.”

The Boy Scouts announced last week it was considering replacing its longstanding ban on gays with a policy to let troop sponsors make their own decision on the issue.

[Sacajaweau]

lesbians in the Boy scouts...Does Obama EVER think before he speaks?

[Izzy Dunne]

Does this mean I can be a Girl Scout leader?

[Yosemitest]

There is an earlier thread.

So Satan wants Boy Scout Leaders to abandon God.

Those who support homosexuals are against our Heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ.
These anti Christ people only bring destruction on us ALL.
I have NO sympathy for homosexuals!

Homosexuality is a "Mark" of disobedience.

It was given by our Heavenly Father to test us
to see ... if we will OBEY our Heavenly Father,
and abide by His commandments, statues, and ordinances.

Someone once asked

"Why are they [homosexuals] all so angry?"

The answer is in the definition of "REPROBATE".

rep·ro·bate \ˈre-prə-ˌbāt\ a. [L. reprobatus, reprobo, to disallow; re and probo, to prove.]

1. Not enduring proof or trial; not of standard purity or fineness; disallowed; rejected.


Reprobate silver shall men call them, because the Lord hath rejected them. Jer. 6.




2. Abandoned in sin; lost to virtue or grace.

They profess that they know God, but in works deny him, being abominable and disobedient, and to every good work reprobate. Titus 1.

3. Abandoned to error, or in apostasy. 2Tim. 3.

And the reason"why" is given in the Bible.

God has a cure for homosexuals.

But will we OBEY our Heavenly Father?

[cuban leaf]

Every time I read a headline like this, the following phrase comes to mind:

“Opinions vary. Thanks for sharing yours.”

[Iron Munro]

Of course Obama supports homosexualism in the Boy Scouts.

He’s been engaging in homosexual sex since he was a young boy and he thinks he is perfectly normal.

[ilgipper]

Yes, and clearly it would be wrong to allow convicted sex offenders from being cub scout and brownie leaders. We can’t offend anyone in Obama’s America.

[struggle]

Equal opportunity molestation.

[rightwingintelligentsia]

So would they have to rename it the Child Scouts? Or maybe the Diverse Young Persons’ of No Particular Gender or Preference Scouts?

[SeekAndFind]

RE: He’s been engaging in homosexual sex since he was a young boy and he thinks he is perfectly normal.

Any reliable evidence of that?

[baddog 219]

Dear leader can....

[Travis McGee]

[junta]

Passive/aggressives make the worst psychopaths.

[MNDude]

After a handful of boys have been molested by a few gay scout leaders, the liberal media will do all they can to make the name “Boy Scouts” synonymous with molesting boys.

It will all because of Boy Scout culture, and nothing to do with gay behaviour.

[Rappini]

It’s part of his overall plan to fundamentally change America.

[Oberon]

Eh. Nobody at the WaPo seems to appreciate the 1st Amendments provisos for freedom of association, which multiple courts have ruled implies freedom of dissociation for private organizations, which the BSA is.

If they want a scouting group that admits gays, let someone found their own organization along those lines. They can call it the Rump Rangers and invent a whole new set of merit badges.

[B.O. Plenty]

What Obama is doing is getting us in a little more trouble with God each and every day. God's direct judgement takes place over a number of years, and it will not affect Pres Zer0 one bit in the near term.

You have to know that obama is only a power mad reprobate since he obviously has no problem with the destruction of his own children's lives.

They are now "doomed" to a life of being in a "protective" prison...any "normal" life of growing into adulthood is not impossible.

[Venturer]

The LGBT scouts.

Personally I hope they vote to just close the scouting program down before allowing this.

If it is allowed it will die anyway.

[SeekAndFind]

RE: What Obama is doing is getting us in a little more trouble with God each and every day. God’s direct judgement takes place over a number of years, and it will not affect Pres Zer0 one bit in the near term.

We are not under a King in the USA, WE VOTED FOR THE MAN, which is to say, WE WANT HIM TO LEAD US AND IMPLEMENT THE LAWS FOR US. And oh BTW, we also voted for Democrats to write laws in the Senate.

It’s not really Obama per se, it’s WE THE PEOPLE.

[Iron Munro]

Scouting In Obamaland

[eartick]

“Does this mean I can be a Girl Scout leader?”
___________________________________________________________

No, but it does mean that all blacks can join the KKK....new recruits do not have to wear any hoods...

[I want the USA back]

It is not his job to make pronouncements on policy for a private organization.

Unfortunately, I feel the BSA will fold and that will be the end of a once-great institution.

[svcw]

WE DID vote for him, the LIV voted for him.
And the people cried out for a king, it was granted.

(That crying out did not end well for anyone)

[elcid1970]

Maybe Boy Scout culture will result in a few gay scout leaders getting the s*** beat out of them. Blanket parties inside a pup tent are an excellent way of insuring anonymity. Just add several enraged fathers & stir.

Obama jumps all faggie with the Boy Scouts. Is anyone surprised? Is nothing sacred?

[AnAmericanMother]

[moovova]

BSA

Butt Stickers of America

[Brownie63]

Hold the Line! Don’t give in Boy Scouts!

[cuban leaf]

Somewhat related:

I’m resurrecting my Aurora HO slot racing set that I got over two christmases in 1964 and 1966 for my grandson. There was an amazing track layout that I just HAD to have back in the day in a Boy’s Life magazine. I found out that the entire run of magazine has been rendered in high def and I was able to find the exact article from 1966.

Man I love the internet.

BTW, there were lots of ads for guns in those old Boy’s Life magazines.

[Condor51]

This fricken SISSY will never get over the fact that he's really a WOMAN.

So dammit 'Barry' get that sex change operation asap and leave us straight men and boys alone!

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Knowing him he probably wants them in as well. What gets me is last time I checked, the Boy scouts are a private organization, and once again here is the government demanding how a private organization conducts business which is flat out tyranny. I mean why not demand the Hells Angels be allowed to join the Girl scouts? Or Sumo wrestlers be allowed to join the Joffrey Ballet?

[TexasCajun]

They have a club for gay males, it’s called the Girl Scouts, I hear they are already hip and cool, you know, progressive.

[1_Rain_Drop]

GSA.
Gay Scouts of America.

If the gays want to be in the BSA, why don’t they just start their own group and worship whatever object they want? I am 100% sure that no God loving heterosexual will try to infiltrate their group or change their limp laws.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

Hey I got an idea: How about demanding the KKK join the NAACP?

[DuncanWaring]

Why not let heterosexual boys join the Girl Scouts?

[taxcontrol]

Look Obama, the reason that the BSA is such a good program is that it does not allow perversion into the program. It teaches morals and hold people responsible for their conduct.

[American in Israel]

The oportunity of the Boy Scouts is to live a selfless moral life. Gays like all people have that opportunity, however they chose to be sexualy focused instead.

No Homosexual wants to be a boy scout, they just want a boy scout.

[LibertarianLiz]

Boy Scouts of America should open its membership to gays and lesbians

So, gay men in the Scouts isn't enough; we also have to have gay women in the BOY Scouts? I sure am glad we have the "smartest guy in the room" as our President, aren't you?

[SeekAndFind]

RE: Look Obama, the reason that the BSA is such a good program is that it does not allow perversion into the program

You’re talking to a brick wall. Obama does not consider homosexuality to be a perversion.

[fattigermaster]

Teach your kids outdoor survival skills yourself. Instead of signing them up with Scouts, sign them up with one of the deadlier no-nonsense martial art schools, I’d look long and far for a teacher of Hark Fu Moon, Fu Jow Pai, Pak Mei or similar family if it were up to me, the way this country’s headed I’d want my boy or girl prepared not just physically but mentally for the sickos and psychos of the future.

[John Leland 1789]

Scouting now can be duplicated in its original form and intent, easily, in so many ways.

People currently involved in the BSA can now simply form autonomous scouting organizations, without the sodomites, and can later link up under other arrangements.

Simply leave the BSA and form, say, a TAS, "Traditional American Scouting," or something like that. Keep local troops entirely autonomous, and allow them to link up as they have the need to do so for specific events and projects.

NEVER link them under the authority of one national headquarters, so that if the top goes perverted, they have no legal sway over any local autonomous troop.

For a while, the BSA merit badge system can be accepted in that boys transferring from a BSA troop to a "TAS" troop, say, will have his BSA merit badge accomplishments and record transferred as well. Of course, the actual BSA badges likely cannot be used because they are copyrighted, I'm sure. Simply created new corresponding badges for a "TAS."

LEAVE the BSA, and let the perverts have it all by themselves, and carefully document what happens to it as a result, and show it to the world.

Keep the traditional concept of scouting alive by forming new autonomous Scouting units---Keep a non-sodomite set of rules and procedures. New Scouting handbook ; new uniforms ; newly-designed merit badges ; go camping, have jamborees, etc., etc.

[al_c]

Someone should tell him that his daughters should date other girls.

[SVTCobra03]

WE VOTED FOR THE MAN

Who is "WE"? I didn't vote for the Kenyan usurper.

[SgtHooper]

I don’t have a problem with homo boys joining the Scouts, and learning the scout ways (but not outwardly acting out such tendencies-don’t ask, don’t tell), but no way for the leaders. And of course, no homo females-go to the Girl Scouts.

[ansel12]

The Republican presidential candidate had promoted this idea for 20 years himself.

[kinsman redeemer]

My Unit (Troop) has a connection to the District and Council - but I’ve never seen the purpose of the relationship - other than chartering.

Frankly, evertime someone from the District comes by, I think “Here goes another fund-raiser speech.” They serve no significant purpose.

My Troop is very highly associated with its sponsoring church. Discipleship is the principle mission of our Troop and Pack. Our aim is to build men who know God and are well-grounded in their Christian walk.

I guess what I’m saying is this: If we risk losing our Charter because we do not comply with the change in the national organization, we will go solo. Not much will really change.

[kinsman redeemer]

“...everytime someone...” Duh-oh.

[T-Bird45]

The BSA and GSA are both Title 36 organizations with a Congressional Charter and the exclusive right to the word “Scouts” in their organizational name. The WikiPedia article on the BSA has a paragraph on this detail.

[mark8express]

...I feel so very sorry for the black christian community in America today...voting for the nations first black president was an honorable thing ,however, misplaced honor is a human fault and has been know to cause much strife and pain since the beginning of time...this gentleman has shown great animosity for christian principals which are indeed the cornerstone of America and its people...he is not a “Folk” as he portrays himself to be and uses the term only as a come on to elicit votes...my God , the poor can barely afford to put gas in their cars and buy food with what he has done to the economy in general...I was not raised to be racist ,and it hurts me deeply to see the blacks in this nation to played to this extent by someone that claims to be one of you but is not !!!...If you and I walk into the garden ,I will not step over a snake and let you be struck...I would rather be hit by the the thing than allow you to be poisoned by its venom,and this is righteousness which cannot be destroyed by any man...

[longtermmemmory]

keep calling,

no change announced so far. KEEP THE PRESSURE ON!

Time for those two BOD directors to resign.

[John Leland 1789]

"The BSA and GSA are both Title 36 organizations with a Congressional Charter and the exclusive right to the word “Scouts” in their organizational name. The WikiPedia article on the BSA has a paragraph on this detail."

But neither the BSA nor the GSA have exclusive right to the word "scouting."

But you may have missed my point by focusing on the name. I was talking about preserving the concept. A new name can be created, tweaked, played with, on and on.