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How one question changed an undocumented immigrant's fate
The Post-Standard -Syracuse.com ^ | February 03, 2013 | By Marnie Eisenstadt

Posted on 02/03/2013 5:47:41 PM PST by moonshinner_09

SYRACUSE -- Arely Tomas Orozco hardly ever went out.

(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; guatamala; illegalalien; illegals; immigration; newyork
What about the Guatamala flag being in the background ? 234comments so far..
1 posted on 02/03/2013 5:47:51 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

A regular old Anne Frank /s


3 posted on 02/03/2013 5:57:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: moonshinner_09

All it shows is that they like so many others don’t come here to be Americans, they want the free stuff and send as much money home as possible. A great many bank as much money at their home country as possible and then return to live large. As far as their situation of maybe being deported, CRY ME A FRIGGIN RIVER! I am fed up with us supposed to give special treatment to someone just because the come from south of the border!


4 posted on 02/03/2013 5:59:02 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: moonshinner_09

I have exactly as much pity and sympathy for someone who breaks into my country as I would have for someone who would break into my home.

Deport them all to Guatemala and revoke the citizenship of the anchor babies.

The same rule should apply to all illegal immigrants from every other country as well. If you didn’t come in the proper way you (and your offspring) should be forced out and barred from ever holding U.S. citizenship in the future.


5 posted on 02/03/2013 5:59:14 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( Leftists: Stupid or Evil. Sometimes both. ))))
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To: moonshinner_09
To add insult to injury, her youngest kid was born after the order for her deportation was issued and she became a fugitive.

I can't believe people actually think stories like this one will generate sympathy.

The new normal. Nobody anywhere needs to obey the law, from the president down to illegal aliens. No consequences, no problem...

6 posted on 02/03/2013 6:10:39 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: moonshinner_09
Udi Ofer, an attorney and advocacy director at the New York Civil Liberties Union, didn’t like that the trooper asked for Orozco’s paperwork or anything else. They had no reason to because she wasn’t a suspect in a crime and it’s not the job of state police to enforce federal immigration law, he said.

So I guess this Noo Yawk lawyer would be entirely agreeable if state, county and local police decided that it wasn't their job to enforce anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment federal laws.

Oh, wait. They want federal anti-gun laws to be enforced all the way down to the tiny cow town level, preferably by jack booted thugs and fully automatic "assault weapons", body armor and armored personnel carriers during midnight raids. That's OK. But let any LEO try to enforce constitutional illegal immigration laws and such a stink!

The rank hypocrisy and pure evil in liberals is barely believable, yet they prove it daily, hourly.

She was asked a simple quesion and can't speak enought English to even answer the trooper. THEN she has an immigration warrant out for her because she skipped appearance in court the last time she was caught.

And we're supposed to feel sorry for her. And her brood? Sorry, my Give A Damn broke a long time ago.

7 posted on 02/03/2013 6:31:53 PM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: moonshinner_09

Boo hoo. go home and get in line. I know a guy from England who fixes race cars and has been trying to come to the U.S. for years. He has to prove he can do a job or provide a service that no American can before he can be considered. He is still stuck in England. He owns his own business there and would be great for the U.S. But no, we only want the ones that come here and suck up welfare.


8 posted on 02/03/2013 6:37:56 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The 2nd amendment is NOT about hunting-but protection from a tyrannical govt)
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To: Mastador1

I keep asking my wife and the accountant who does are taxes why we should we keep paying taxes? The illegal is represented without taxation and the citizen(me, you, all of us) are being taxed without representation.


9 posted on 02/03/2013 6:43:17 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: moonshinner_09

See also,She and her husband, Jose Colin, paid $2,000 each to get smuggled across the U.S. border 12 years ago. Then she worked at times from 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. to save money to bring the three children they left in Mexico City.And Like many illegal immigrants, the family has gotten used to life on the outskirts of mainstream society, living with the possibility of deportation and working their way around the system to get by.

To open a bank account, Ibarra said she used her Mexican consulate identification card — called “matricula consular” — because of an agreement between the Mexican consulate and Bank of America. She uses a taxpayer number to pay taxes in hope that will facilitate her process of acquiring legal status under the immigration reform.

To buy her car, Ibarra said she paid a dealer three times its value. The dealer arranged a registration and a license plate even though she does not have documents.

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2013/feb/02/obamas-immigration-reform-could-help-local-the/


10 posted on 02/03/2013 6:48:40 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

See also,She and her husband, Jose Colin, paid $2,000 each to get smuggled across the U.S. border 12 years ago. Then she worked at times from 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. to save money to bring the three children they left in Mexico City.And Like many illegal immigrants, the family has gotten used to life on the outskirts of mainstream society, living with the possibility of deportation and working their way around the system to get by.

To open a bank account, Ibarra said she used her Mexican consulate identification card — called “matricula consular” — because of an agreement between the Mexican consulate and Bank of America. She uses a taxpayer number to pay taxes in hope that will facilitate her process of acquiring legal status under the immigration reform.

To buy her car, Ibarra said she paid a dealer three times its value. The dealer arranged a registration and a license plate even though she does not have documents.

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2013/feb/02/obamas-immigration-reform-could-help-local-the/


11 posted on 02/03/2013 6:48:48 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: Mastador1

Read the comments. Someone pointed out that there was a Guatemalan flag in one of the pictures, which indicated to which country these people still held loyalty.


12 posted on 02/03/2013 6:51:40 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Mastador1
One of the practical reasons the illegals do their banking 'down home' instead of in US banks is their accounts aren't covered by FDIC!

Mexico would be the first one off the block complaining if Obama tried to cover illegal alien accounts with FDIC.

13 posted on 02/03/2013 7:02:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: moonshinner_09

What’s with this “Undocumented Immigrant” stuff?

Immigrants are invited into our Country and given Valid Legal Documents.

Invaders sneak in and use subterfuge to hide themselves among the Population.

When you control the Language you control the content of the Debate.


14 posted on 02/03/2013 7:04:03 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Car broker/dealer in my neighborhood was selling cars for cash to dope dealers ~ he got caught and ratted them all out.

He's out of jail under federal witness protection and the dealers are in jail ~ but if they ever catch him he's meat.

So this ol'gal paid triple ~ for what? So that he doesn't turn her in? How utterly stupid of her ~ he'll turn on a dime.

15 posted on 02/03/2013 7:07:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

ii) For a non-U.S. person, one or more of the following: A taxpayer identification number; passport number and country of issuance; alien identification card number; or number and country of issuance of any other government-issued document evidencing nationality or residence and bearing a photograph or similar safeguard.

Granted I just quickly skimmed, but it would appear that as long as the person has a tax identification number, which they happily give to the illegals so that they can get a refund of our money, they are covered by the FDIC. And the of the big reasons they send it home is to buy property to return to, so they put the money in the foreign bank to pay the bills. At least this is what the ones I worked with told me.


16 posted on 02/03/2013 7:18:41 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Getting the account is one thing ~ by the time FDIC is in the picture you need to identify yourself ~ again ~ and your status as an unlawful entrant will definitely be available for the gub'mnt to match up to ~ and there goes the big enchilada.

You literally risk being picked up by ICE for making your claim.

17 posted on 02/03/2013 8:02:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Could be, though the IRS could give a rip, and I’ll bet the Administration tells the FDIC to turn a blind eye just like they tell ICE.


18 posted on 02/03/2013 8:05:52 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: moonshinner_09

“undocumented immigrant”??

Oh! The author must mean, “illegal alien”.


19 posted on 02/03/2013 8:12:24 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: moonshinner_09

Tear jerking $hit from the MSM...


20 posted on 02/03/2013 8:16:56 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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How one question changed an undocumented immigrant's fate

Oh, not an "undocumented immigrant".

Don't you mean: an illegal alien, a criminal invader, a trespassing, non-citizen, welfare cheat , a foreigner, a fraud, a migrant scam artist....?

I could go on all day.

21 posted on 02/03/2013 8:19:39 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

As much as I dislike Family services all of the illegals should be given a choice take the children with them or they should be made wards of the courts. If they take them with them the child should retain the right to decide when they turn 18 to return to the U.S.A. or relinquish their citizenship. I do not blame the children but at the same time do not believe they should be allowed to be used by others to break the law.


22 posted on 02/04/2013 2:52:08 AM PST by Kadric
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To: moonshinner_09

She broke the law by entering this country illegally and she subsequently broke the law by failing to appear in court. I have no sympathy for anyone who has a history of breaking the law.


23 posted on 02/04/2013 3:13:40 AM PST by monocle
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To: cripplecreek

The lifestyle these illegal parents choose for their children is abusive. It’s no better than raising them in a home where you are dealing drugs or chopping stolen cars. What damage they inflict on their children by living a paranoid, abnormal, twisted life of crime in the shadows of other people’s Nation.


24 posted on 02/04/2013 8:53:08 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: moonshinner_09

But the dominoes were already falling. Border patrol and immigration officials said that while people such as Orozco – here illegally but with no criminal record – are not a priority, once they knew where she was, they couldn’t let her walk away.

Uhm, if you’re here illegally, and already ignored a deportation order, then you have a record. Idiots.


25 posted on 02/04/2013 8:56:08 AM PST by ro_dreaming (G.K. Chesterton, “Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It’s been found hard and lef)
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To: Wisconsinlady

I honestly believe that Europeans are being discriminated against by the immigration bureacrats. I have heard many stories such as yours and yet I see whole extended families of immigrants from non-European countries. If it takes many years for one person to immigrate, how can they have several adult siblings along with inlaws, nieces and nephews all living in this country? I saw a picture in the local newspaper which showed a family that gave birth to the first child to be born in 2013. In the photo there were about six or seven people including the husband of the new mother an older daughter, her sister and brother-in-law and niece. It used to take years to bring a brother or sister into the country but this family from Africa had their whole extended family reunited within apparently a very short time.


26 posted on 02/04/2013 1:36:06 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Mastador1

Don’t you get the picture that most federal bureacracies are just arms of the Democrat party?


27 posted on 02/04/2013 1:50:47 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: SaraJohnson

I wonder how they manage to smuggle young children into the nation? Are they walking through the dessert? Are they being smuggled in cars? Are they smuggled in by using fake documents?


28 posted on 02/04/2013 1:57:06 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: moonshinner_09

I would say the question isn’t what changed her life, but the answer she gave that we’re never told by this stupid reporter.


29 posted on 02/04/2013 1:57:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: cradle of freedom

Well obviously, how else are they going to create an expanding voter base?


30 posted on 02/04/2013 2:08:34 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: cradle of freedom

Some have anchor babies once they are here.


31 posted on 02/04/2013 2:32:42 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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