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Newtown Calls for Armed School Officers
NBCConnecticut ^ | 2/1/2013 | George colli

Posted on 02/01/2013 6:52:19 AM PST by FR_addict

"The Newtown Board of Education will be asking the town to make room for more armed police officers in its budget.

In a meeting Thursday, the board voted to request the town to add full time uniformed school resource officers to its four elementary school s for the next fiscal year was approved this evening. The officers would be Newtown police officers.

“Our parents are demanding of us that things are made safe and secure and certain measures areput in place,” said Chairwoman Debbie Leidlein. “So we’re being very thoughtful.”

Multiple police officers have been stationed at all Newtown schools since the December 14th shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary killed twenty children and 6 teachers. Those officers will remain at the school through the remainder of the school year. For the next fiscal year, resource officers were budgeted only to be at Middle and High Schools. ..."

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SROs in the schools will help save our children's lives.

The anti-2nd Amendment gun grabbing bills will not.

1 posted on 02/01/2013 6:52:21 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Whatdayaknow...
NRA was right after all.


2 posted on 02/01/2013 7:02:35 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Watch and see. A proposal will come forth to tax ALL firearms for some percentage (say 10%) to cover the cost of Armed Security Officers in all public schools.....it’s coming.


3 posted on 02/01/2013 7:05:17 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: FR_addict
What took them so long??

Had to wait till Gabby left?

I'm so angry that she went there. I do not believe she knows that she's become a government pawn.

4 posted on 02/01/2013 7:06:32 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: FR_addict

The Leftoids ridiculed Wayne LaPierre when he proposed this very thing.


5 posted on 02/01/2013 7:09:49 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Sacajaweau

SHE VOLUNTEERED........


6 posted on 02/01/2013 7:15:24 AM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: FR_addict

Close the door after the horse is out of the barn.....


7 posted on 02/01/2013 7:17:39 AM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: FR_addict

I bet that will be a pretty boring job. I imagine this will never happen in Newtown again.

Like lightning, random acts like this very rarely happen a second time in the same place.


8 posted on 02/01/2013 7:17:56 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: FR_addict

Just read a story about an off-duty armed guard who disarmed a student who opened fire at a GA middle school. The kid’s gun had made it past the metal detector. One kid was shot before the guard disarmed the shooter but was taken to the hospital and expected to be OK, IIRC. It’s believed there was some kind of conflict between the two kids. The shooter is being charged and will presumably learn that shooting somebody isn’t the way to deal with conflict.

A much better outcome than Newtown, and I’m glad the Newtown parents are demanding a response that actually works.


9 posted on 02/01/2013 7:18:15 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: FR_addict
They don't need extra money. What they need is to find out which teachers are ex-military or ex-police and/or which teachers or administrators are safety trained CCW carriers and then just ask them to come to school armed and prepared to do their duty to protect the students from harm.

The schools could pay for additional training for the teachers and they could insist that, in the future, in order to get a teachers' credential, they must take a course in firearm safety and pass any test necessary to get a concealed weapon permit.

10 posted on 02/01/2013 7:19:25 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Iron Munro

Yeah, in lib logic, adding good guys with guns makes the place less safe because there are more guns.


11 posted on 02/01/2013 7:19:31 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Iron Munro

Additionally, by this logic, shouldn’t the president be TERRIFIED to be surrounded by “men with guns” all the time?


12 posted on 02/01/2013 7:20:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Oh the horror...

Now our schools will become “Dodge City”...and “the wild west”...

Can’t ya just hear the urine hitting floor on MSNBC right about now???


13 posted on 02/01/2013 7:20:28 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Gaffer

There’s no such thing as a free lunch...or a free armed security guard.


14 posted on 02/01/2013 7:23:54 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: stuartcr
I imagine this will never happen in Newtown again.

Right, and it will never ever ever happen again if the schools in Newtown all have armed and firearm trained security guards protecting the children.

Newtown schools are no longer gun free zones. Therefore they are now much safer places to send your children.

Of course their minds are not safe since 90% of the teachers are left-wing propagandists.

15 posted on 02/01/2013 7:24:17 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe
“The schools could pay for additional training for the teachers and they could insist that, in the future, in order to get a teachers’ credential, they must take a course in firearm safety and pass any test necessary to get a concealed weapon permit.”

I disagree. Let the ones that want to be armed and can pass the gun requirements come to school armed. I don't want any teacher not comfortable with a gun to be handling them. There are plenty of teachers that are begging to take the safety courses and carry a gun.

16 posted on 02/01/2013 7:26:44 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

A Google search shows that only local news is running this story so far. Does anyone think the national media will run it?


17 posted on 02/01/2013 7:27:31 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: FR_addict
SROs in the schools will help save our children's lives.

******************

Following the NRA's initial and most-sane recommendation:
...Who knew...??

Easiest... fastest... armed.... "well-trained"... permanent...
A LEO presence will provide deterrence and the immediate remedy in the event of any attempt to assault the schools.

--UNLIKE--
Awaiting the national debate & eventual attempt at compromised legislation...
...That will likely (& hopefully!!) be enjoined...
...And/or quickly slapped down as unconstitutional

18 posted on 02/01/2013 7:29:44 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: NFHale

$10 says this won’t make tonight’s Nightly News with Brian Twistedface.


19 posted on 02/01/2013 7:30:55 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Wolfie

Training and arming the custodians/teachers/staff would be a reasonable compromise between security and economy.

Right away after Newtown, when my son and I were discussing the arguments being made, he wondered if schools would have any problem with teachers, etc having guns with rubber bullets, or a taser.

Aside from the politics and 2nd Amendment aspects of the issue, tasers and/or rubber bullets (as a substitute for NOTHING, in places where the liberal fear of guns won’t be overcome) could hopefully at least prevent a Beslan from happening in the US. Because we can know for sure that the enemies of America are comprehending and planning to exploit the vulnerabilities that we’ve shown the world.

At this point a school being disarmed has to be about as provocative to the Islamists as a woman showing her elbow. No man can be expected to withstand that level of temptation.


20 posted on 02/01/2013 7:33:50 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: stuartcr

You’re going to call down the wrath of the frightened bunnies who believe there’s a deranged gunman hiding in the bushes of every school in America.

Statistically the number of school shootings (aside from inner city gang violence) is so low that we can never really effectively bring the number down.

Personally I think the best thing you can do is eliminate the gun free zones and allow staff to carry. These shooters don’t appear to be risk takers. They plot and intend to die. Make them gamble and you may just deter some of them.


21 posted on 02/01/2013 7:36:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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22 posted on 02/01/2013 7:37:33 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Wolfie

Watch Obama doe something like install armed TSA agents in the schools....ha!


23 posted on 02/01/2013 7:52:32 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“...this won’t make tonight’s Nightly News..”

Nah, of course not. No little kids’ bodies to generate moral outrage over.

This is something that will actually WORK, proving OUR side to be right (as we knew anyway).

Can’t have THAT, now, can we?


24 posted on 02/01/2013 7:58:43 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Home invasion suspect arrested after woman opens fire
Suspect arrested at hospital
Author: Camille Williams, Reporter, cwilliams@kprc.com

http://www.click2houston.com/news/Home-invasion-suspect-arrested-after-woman-opens-fire/-/1735978/18331728/-/format/rss_2.0/-/s329rz/-/index.html


25 posted on 02/01/2013 8:01:52 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: FR_addict

There was a 100 million dollar lawsuit request made at Sandy Hook and then withdrawn.

I suspect they are going to have to withstand some lawsuits or settle.

It appears there were issues about locks on some classroom doors and keys.

One of the teachers is a stepdaughter of a reporter for a local paper. Lauren Rousseau

Reports are that as a substitute She didn’t have the key to lock her door.

Had she had the key, she might be alive as well as the children.

http://articles.courant.com/2013-01-31/news/hc-newtown-classroom-keys-20130131_1_classroom-keys-adam-lanza-substitutes

“”We became aware that not all substitutes had keys,” Superintendent of Schools Janet Robinson said Wednesday.”

The father of the teacher said she did not have a key

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/12/18/quebec-lauren-rousseau-conn.html

If true, He has grounds for a lawsuit and I think they will settle.


26 posted on 02/01/2013 8:02:07 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: P-Marlowe

It happened yesterday in Atlanta in a school with an armed guard. Granted only one student was shot, but unfortunately, in these situations, there’s going to be that first person to get shot before anything happens.


27 posted on 02/01/2013 8:03:32 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Sacajaweau
I do not believe she knows that she's become a government pawn.

Agreed. Just like my niece & nephews in Newtown.

28 posted on 02/01/2013 8:07:13 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: butterdezillion
Not too many people would want to do security against potential armed crazy people with rubber bullets and a taser. The guard may be the first target.

Never bring a rubber bullet (that may not faze a lunatic) to a lead bullet fight.

Never bring a taser (that can be defeated with a heavy coat) to a lead bullet fight.

Always bring a lot of big, fast lead to a lead fight.

29 posted on 02/01/2013 8:11:49 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree. Take down all gun free zone signs and let the staff do as they wish.


30 posted on 02/01/2013 8:20:26 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: RummyChick
We became aware that not all substitutes had keys

What good would keys do?

I don't know the details at the school, but I think large glass windows in doors are pretty standard in schools, as well as windows in classroom walls in some. Principals like to walk the halls and see what is going on in the rooms. (These days it is also due to fears that teachers might more easily molest kids if they can't be seen from the hall.)

With a glass windowed door, all the perp has to do is break the window, turn the inside knob, and walk in.

I don't think keyed deadbolts in a classroom would go over well with the fire marshall.

Maybe an emergency device that could be secured would be feasible (similar to the old 2x4 in brackets setup but harder to defeat. Also, school doors must open outward). Again, there are very strict fire laws about school doors due to some horrible tragedies years ago.

31 posted on 02/01/2013 8:31:19 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Can’t open the door by turning the knob after it has been locked by key.

But you make a point. If there is no where to hide and there is not bullet proof glass you could just stick your gun through a shot out door window and kill them.

For that matter, you could be outside, pop up, and kill them all through an outside window.

But the reason a lawsuit will prevail if allowed to continue is because they did not follow adequate security procedures by giving the teacher a key so that she could lock the door . That was the Standard Operating Procedure for a lock down and they didn’t give her what she needed to lock it down.


32 posted on 02/01/2013 8:41:38 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: FR_addict

How are those freepers who are convinced this was a hoax with crisis actors going to handle this news?

Oh, never mind, duh. The school board that called for this is also filled with actors, or they have had their families threatended by the government, if they do not do this to continue muddying the water, as calling for more guns is unexpected in liberal CT.


33 posted on 02/01/2013 8:43:42 AM PST by dmz
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To: RummyChick

“Can’t open the door by turning the knob after it has been locked by key.”

This may not be true. That would be a fire marshall issue. How do the kids get out if there is a fire and the door was locked from outside.

And why does the door have to be locked from the outside and not inside?? Not quite understanding that yet.


34 posted on 02/01/2013 8:44:30 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: FR_addict
Good for them but Obama will probably sign an executive order to prevent this.
35 posted on 02/01/2013 8:50:06 AM PST by McGruff (You know they can't post anything on the Internet that isn't true.)
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To: Gaffer

We defend our country ————with guns
We defend our president-———with guns
We defend our banks-—————with guns
We defend our courts—————with guns
We defend etc., etc —————with guns

We defend our children——with a sign that says

“THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE”

and then call someone with a gun when there is an emergency.


36 posted on 02/01/2013 8:54:34 AM PST by Mr Murphy
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To: Mr Murphy

You preach to the choir. I just foretell what they will be doing.


37 posted on 02/01/2013 9:01:56 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: FR_addict

well that’s odd, I thought the democrats gun bans were going to make everybody safer. While that nasty evil NRA guy who called for more security in schools was all wrong.

huh

Looks like the media was full of &%#$ again.


38 posted on 02/01/2013 9:11:39 AM PST by Cubs Fan (If the republican party wants to be the democrat lite party then they don't need my vote)
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To: P-Marlowe

“What they need is to find out which teachers are ex-military or ex-police and/or which teachers or administrators are safety trained CCW carriers”

Over in Newtown (about 10 miles from me), I doubt you’d find very many individuals who fit the above qualifications. Probably none at all in the elementary schools.

Pretty much the same wherever you look, at least in the northeast...


39 posted on 02/01/2013 9:16:41 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide; P-Marlowe
“What they need is to find out which teachers are ex-military or ex-police and/or which teachers or administrators are safety trained CCW carriers”

“Over in Newtown (about 10 miles from me), I doubt you’d find very many individuals who fit the above qualifications. Probably none at all in the elementary schools.

Pretty much the same wherever you look, at least in the northeast...”

I imagine that's the same everywhere and not just the Northeast. How many ex-police are going to go into teaching, same with ex-Military? I sure there are some (probably ex-military who was in the service for four years and was able to get college money) but not enough to make a significant difference for the amount of schools we have.

The CCW issue is a different one. Considering how many state level “People's Republics” we have in this country, most of the Northeast and West Coast school folks don't have a chance to arm themselves.

40 posted on 02/01/2013 9:56:01 AM PST by Mr Fuji
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To: RummyChick
Can’t open the door by turning the knob after it has been locked by key.

You can't open the door from inside when it is locked??

That doesn't sound legal by firecode.

Where I live, and in many areas, a locked exterior residential door must be able to be opened from the inside by turning the knob and never require a key to get out from the inside. Deadbolts must be able to be opened from the inside without a key, that is, by twisting the lever. You can't even have one that needs a key and you just leave the key in the lock when you are home. Someone might borrow the key and not put it back. In a fire, you can't get out through the door.

You might say, well, there will never be a situation like that in a school. Then it happens the next day. More lawsuits.

41 posted on 02/01/2013 10:58:20 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Gaffer

“Watch and see. A proposal will come forth to tax ALL firearms for some percentage (say 10%) to cover the cost of Armed Security Officers in all public schools.....it’s coming.”

You’re right. No doubt about it.

But why bother with antiquated things like proposals and meetings and public comment and actual voting so the taxpayers have a say where their money goes?

Why, the new and improved way to ‘get things done’ is the Executive Order.


42 posted on 02/01/2013 10:58:20 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (A return to Jesus and prayer in the schools is the only way.)
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To: Sacajaweau
I do not believe she knows that she's become a government pawn.

I'm more cynical. I believe she's been a government pawn all along. (Not saying the shooting was deliberate).

43 posted on 02/01/2013 11:02:08 AM PST by GVnana
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To: stuartcr
“I bet that will be a pretty boring job. I imagine this will never happen in Newtown again.”

It will be a boring job, and likely will never see a act of violence, but is it because of the guard, or what. In my opinion the guard is like having insurance, you hope you never have to use it, but you are glad when something does happen and you have it.

We have a large unemployment issue in the US, this is a job creator, with benefits. One large benefit is you get to be a role model for the children.

Since the liberals have screwed up this country with their lack of enforcement, liberal judges letting criminals off and all the other stuff the liberals have done and are doing to this country, this is one of the consequences, now we have to have armed guards everywhere.

It's sad really, I remember a time when we didn’t lock the doors when we went to the store, when it was hot we left the door open at night. Different times for sure, be we must adapt.

44 posted on 02/01/2013 11:34:51 AM PST by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong preemptive strike.)
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To: FR_addict

This seems like overkill to me. After all they can issue scissors to all the teachers!

They can even bring in the seamstress union, and put a brigade of PMSing sewing ladies with scissors in the lobby. (That would make me think twice...)

Sorry for the humor, the sexual stereotypes, the insensitivity, etc., ...everything that I’m ‘sposed to be sorry for, then I’m sorry for it.

/sarc

PS: I won’t be intimidated at all with scissoring LGBTs

Ditto /sarc


45 posted on 02/01/2013 12:03:15 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

wow, padre. LOL!


46 posted on 02/01/2013 12:04:44 PM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: TADSLOS

someone musta put something in my coffee

...hic....


47 posted on 02/01/2013 12:07:10 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Coffee_drinker

For retired people, it would be great. I imagine when all the legal stuff gets straightened out, we will see more guards in schools. Right now, I think the liability aspects of this have to be ironed out.

I don’t lock my car and I leave the door and windows open.


48 posted on 02/01/2013 12:31:43 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr

That’s what I was thinking. Barring copycat stuff, this school is probably the safest one in the entire country now. Statistically speaking.


49 posted on 02/01/2013 12:45:39 PM PST by MarMema
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To: FR_addict

Funny, this never showed up in the news....


50 posted on 02/01/2013 1:24:38 PM PST by fractionated
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