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Russian rocket carrying U.S. satellite plunges into Pacific Ocean 40 seconds after launch
Daily Mail ^ | 01 FEB 2013 | 03:05 EST | Martin Robinson

Posted on 02/01/2013 6:16:52 AM PST by Hoodat

The launch of a Russian rocket carrying an American communications satellite ended in disaster today after it plunged into the sea 40 seconds after blast-off.

Grainy footage of the launch being streamed online was cut shortly after 6.56am GMT when the space-bound vessel got into trouble.

The Swiss-based Sea Launch company sent up their Zenit-3SL rocket from the Odyssey Launch Platform in the Pacific Ocean on Friday.

However, the vessel – along with its Intelsat 27 telecommunications satellite inside - suffered a failure during the first stage of its flight.

It is claimed the rocket’s engines shut off stopped automatically because its trajectory was wrong.

Odyssey sits on the equator and is a launch pad made from a converted oil rig.

A team control its flight from a boat six kilometres away. A team is now searching for the downed rocket. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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More likely: Russian rocket claiming to be carrying US satellite plunges into Pacific Ocean (while actual satellite is being dismantled by highest bidders). We already went through this in the 90s with China and Loral Space. Will we ever learn?
1 posted on 02/01/2013 6:16:58 AM PST by Hoodat
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To: Hoodat

No Dish Network for You!


2 posted on 02/01/2013 6:19:29 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Hoodat

They probably don’t have a muslim outreach program. It’s no wonder their rockets crash into the ocean.


3 posted on 02/01/2013 6:31:19 AM PST by Boris99
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To: Hoodat

Isn’t Obamunism great??


4 posted on 02/01/2013 6:36:00 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: Hoodat

How much was the insurance on the satellite? Did it also have a loss of income clause in which the fees charged by the satellite company that are lost are covered?
What is the financial situation of the company that was to own and own and operate the satellite? Was it funded by the US Government in any respect?

How far in advance of the launch was it paid for? Did the Russians guarantee their product?

What was it to be used for any be whom?

Are the launchers to be responsible?

I would sure like to follow the money trail on this one.

Rockets into space have been around a long time.

What was the defect?

I smell one big rat on this one and it has Mideast chicanery written all over it.


5 posted on 02/01/2013 6:38:31 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Hoodat
I never seem to hear about US-launched rockets crashing their private payloads into the ocean. I'm just not sure if this is because ours usually don't have that problem, or because we just don't launch rockets anymore....

And, if it were my satellite, I'd be right there watching them pick up the pieces from the ocean floor while I watched ;-)

6 posted on 02/01/2013 6:44:15 AM PST by GizmosAndGadgets (How Free Are You In America Today?)
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To: GizmosAndGadgets

Did I read that right, they launched it from a platform IN the ocean? Why would they do that?


7 posted on 02/01/2013 6:49:45 AM PST by jag.drafting
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Surely comrade you know this was an accident! Or do you want a visit from Comrade Cousin Borislav and his friend Comrade Moose of the KGB?


8 posted on 02/01/2013 6:55:46 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: jag.drafting
The best place to launch a satellite is from the equator, and Russia doesn’t have any land based launch sites that far south. I remember reading about this several years ago.

Low earth orbit is about 8 Km/sec. If you launch from latitude 45 degrees, your initial orbit has an inclination of 45 degrees. When your rocket crosses the equator you need to have a burn to change your inclination to 0 degrees. From 45 to 0 degrees takes 6 Km/sec of delta V. So from the equator it takes 8 Km/sec, and from 45 degrees it takes 14 Km/sec. That is 75% more energy to lift the same amount of stuff...

9 posted on 02/01/2013 7:09:32 AM PST by between_the_lines_mn
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To: GizmosAndGadgets
We successfully put up a Delta 5 with a communications satellite on it the other night!!
10 posted on 02/01/2013 7:15:30 AM PST by LooneyTick (Of all the things in life I've lost, I miss my mind the most!)
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To: between_the_lines_mn

excellent response, Thank you.


11 posted on 02/01/2013 7:16:48 AM PST by jag.drafting
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To: Hoodat

... an Iranian space-monkey wrench was found in the wreckage.


12 posted on 02/01/2013 7:21:34 AM PST by Chad N. Freud
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To: between_the_lines_mn

SEALAUNCH. How much business does SEALAUNCH do these days? As for the destroyed rocket, I wonder if the sat is still sitting someplace being scrutinized and all that was lost was the rocket. CONSPIRACY ALERT!!!! LOL!


13 posted on 02/01/2013 7:24:12 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: Hoodat

Based on the Boeing 702MP satellite bus, Intelsat 27 was designed to provide fifteen or more years of service to Intelsat customers in North America, South America, the Atlantic Ocean region and Europe. The spacecraft had a mass of 6,241 kilograms (13,760 lb), and was equipped with 20 C-band and 20 Ku-band transponders for commercial users, as well as 20 UHF transponders for military use.[1][2] Originally intended for the United States Navy, the UHF payload was to have been leased to the government of Italy following the US Department of Defense withdrawing.[1] The satellite would have been positioned at 55.5° West in geostationary orbit, co-located with Intelsat 805 and Galaxy 11.[3]


14 posted on 02/01/2013 7:25:24 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Hoodat

Yep - never trust the placement of a satellite to a country who has no reason to want it to be placed. We probably paid up front with no guarantees (self-insured via the tax payers).


15 posted on 02/01/2013 7:27:09 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: jag.drafting
Did I read that right, they launched it from a platform IN the ocean? Why would they do that?

Because it's obviously much more stable than launching from the ground! And it has the added benefit of making it much harder for others to keep an eye on what you're doing out there ;-)

16 posted on 02/01/2013 7:40:27 AM PST by GizmosAndGadgets (How Free Are You In America Today?)
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17 posted on 02/01/2013 7:53:53 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Hoodat

Ran outta gas?


18 posted on 02/01/2013 8:02:05 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Hoodat

And this is our only mechanism for reaching the space station! Thanks Obama.


19 posted on 02/01/2013 8:09:03 AM PST by Mom MD (A million people attended Obamas inauguration. 14 of them actually missed work)
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To: between_the_lines_mn

Thanks to Martin Schweiger and his excellent simulator Orbiter, I understood every bit of what you said. Good post! =D


20 posted on 02/01/2013 8:16:36 AM PST by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: rktman
So far they've launched over 30 satellites.
21 posted on 02/01/2013 8:25:05 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: Hoodat
Launch Video. It's a night launch, but you can clearly see the engines sputter and die shortly after liftoff.

SeaLaunch had another dramatic failure exactly six years ago when a rocket blew up right on the launch rig. It took quite a lot of work and time to fix the damage to the rig and their reputation. This won't help with the reputation part.

Generally there is lots of denials of responsibility and finger-pointing when there is any problem. There will be a thorough investigation of all of the data that will point to some one party (probably Russian). Then they will say that they've fixed the problem and try to get on with planned future launches.

22 posted on 02/01/2013 9:06:03 AM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: CMailBag

MSNBC blaming it on Republicans in 3...2...1...


23 posted on 02/01/2013 9:10:19 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: between_the_lines_mn

OK with what you wrote...made my head hurt...wouldn’t a bigger rubber band work? Just askin’.


24 posted on 02/01/2013 9:22:05 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: usconservative

Da, I know it was an accident, but with Moose and Squirrel snooping around, Natasha and Boris Badinov are always getting into trouble. One must be careful with our accidents.


25 posted on 02/01/2013 9:30:34 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: showme_the_Glory

I’ve been sayin’ that E85 is no good for engines...


26 posted on 02/01/2013 9:32:45 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: showme_the_Glory

I’ve been sayin’ that E85 is no good for engines...


27 posted on 02/01/2013 9:33:05 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Hoodat

Wonder if they had flight insurance.....


28 posted on 02/01/2013 11:15:17 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hoodat

You’re probably right. This Satellite is in someone’s clean bay being dissected as we speak.


29 posted on 02/01/2013 3:45:23 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Hoodat

P.S. We should rig these Satellites with explosives for this very reason. Try to disassemble and BLAM!!


30 posted on 02/01/2013 3:47:09 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: jag.drafting
Re: “Ocean Platform”

Yes.

The Earth spins at its fastest rate at the equator, about 1000 mph.

If you launch to the east, your satellite gets a gravity assist in reaching orbital speed of about 17,000 mph.

This means you can launch more weight with less rocket fuel or a less powerful rocket.

Unfortunately, launching a rocket from the ocean, many miles from shore, is a daunting logistical and engineering challenge all by itself.

31 posted on 02/02/2013 1:31:18 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: between_the_lines_mn
...launch a satellite ... from the equator,

Vive la France. They have impressive facilities in French Guiana. (Remember Devil's Island?) How come they ain't doing the deal. BTW, the food is fabulous there.

32 posted on 02/02/2013 3:13:02 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Absolution Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No-Fault Marxism.)
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