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Amish Men Accused of Animal Cruelty Defend Their Actions ("In the Amish itís acceptable")
WHAM News, Rochester NY ^ | 1/31 11:40 pm | Reported by: Jane Flasch

Posted on 02/01/2013 6:15:09 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

Clyde, N.Y. - Two Amish men from Wayne County are accused of killing a litter of healthy puppies and their mother.

“This is simply a case of animal cruelty,” says Wayne County District Attorney Rick Healy who intends to charge the pair.

The nine dead dogs were discovered in a compost pile and reported to police January 17th.

Merlin Schumacher who owns the dogs says he was trying to breed Australian Red Heelers, but when he couldn’t sell the dogs and they became “too big” he asked an employee to shoot them.

Jonathan Eicher agreed to put the dogs down.

“In the Amish it’s acceptable to put dogs down. I thought as long as you did it out back it was okay,” Eicher told police. Eicher referred to what he called “the three S’s: shoot, shovel, and shut up.”

That is where Amish custom and New York law clash. New York A.G. and Market Laws prevent the killing of otherwise healthy animals for no reason.

“They need to understand that it is illegal,” says DA Healy. “They can’t treat the animals the way they want to treat the animals they must treat the animals humanely.”

Schumacher, who owns the dogs, told police he had “raised the dogs and couldn’t put them down myself so I asked Jonathan to do it.”

Both men now face nine counts of unjustifiably killing an animal which is a misdemeanor.

Schumacher was charged Wednesday, Eicher expected to be charged Wednesday evening.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: amish; cruelty; dogs; puppymills
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“In the Amish it’s acceptable to put dogs down...shoot, shovel, and shut up.”

Another religion of peace exposed.

(Posted as part of a discussion of crime, health...religion...and other cultural and societal issues, not as general interest or chat).

1 posted on 02/01/2013 6:15:20 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Hieronymus; VampireStateNY; governsleastgovernsbest; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; ...

Upstate NY bump


2 posted on 02/01/2013 6:16:31 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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but when he couldn’t sell the dogs and they became “too big” he asked an employee to shoot them.

How about giving them away. Sheesh!

3 posted on 02/01/2013 6:19:32 AM PST by lysie
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

So are animal shelters where they euthanize the non-adopted animals illegal in New York State?


4 posted on 02/01/2013 6:21:30 AM PST by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: lysie
How about giving them away. Sheesh!

That's what a lot of the local Amish mill owners do, but not in the way you'd expect. They dump the dogs out where they know the local SPCA will find them.

5 posted on 02/01/2013 6:22:04 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I find it so comforting that the MSM cries over animal cruelty and cheers on abortionists.


6 posted on 02/01/2013 6:23:41 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: lysie

Millions of animals are killed each year in “shelters”, and no one says “boo” because it is done out of sight. Take care of things without involving the government, and you are defined as “inhumane”.


7 posted on 02/01/2013 6:24:05 AM PST by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: lysie
Good morning lovely lady. I miss talking with you each day.

Sad story. You only kill feral dogs. Like you said, why not give them away.

Sheesh.

5.56mm

8 posted on 02/01/2013 6:24:15 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: lysie

No differant then killing a cow ,horse or any other non needed animal.

It is up to the owner.


9 posted on 02/01/2013 6:24:40 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

they are a nasty problem in Missouri too running all kinds of foul puppy mills.


10 posted on 02/01/2013 6:26:26 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Melas; Lazamataz; Darksheare
The latest Amish atrocity. Proof of FR wacis core values.

Couldn't help myself.............:-)

11 posted on 02/01/2013 6:27:09 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: riverrunner

Biblically, we are to care for our animals,
but we are also given dominion over creation.

There’s a balance.

I don’t think there’s a problem with killing these dogs, no different than culling unwanted sheep, etc, as long as they weren’t tortured in the process.


12 posted on 02/01/2013 6:28:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: riverrunner

yeah you farm people sometimes can be might crude


13 posted on 02/01/2013 6:28:14 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Wow, an Amish story that really is about the Amish!

My property, my decision. Piss off if anyone is against the Constitution.

This twisted society gets it's collective knickers in a knot over a few dogs but couldn't care less about 45,000,000 murdered, slaughtered and mutilated babies.

In my world, animals are animals and if I own one and want to put it down, that is my business.

But recognizing that there are so many busy bodies that want to protect every creature except human babies, I adhere to the SSS strategery.

The most important one is Shutup; don't even tell your best pal.

14 posted on 02/01/2013 6:29:11 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: M Kehoe

Hello, M.


15 posted on 02/01/2013 6:31:01 AM PST by lysie
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"In the Amish it’s acceptable"
If so, how long before Sharia Law becomes acceptable?
16 posted on 02/01/2013 6:32:38 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; lysie

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17 posted on 02/01/2013 6:34:54 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: oh8eleven

Seems to me we need a non-arbitrary standard to judge why Sharia Law is unacceptable and Amish morals are acceptable.

Oh, wait, we have that.


18 posted on 02/01/2013 6:35:24 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I wonder what the Animal Shelters do, i.e. the Dog Pound or the Humane Society?

“In Michigan, a private or public shelter must hold a found animal for four days after acquiring it, after which time the animal can be adopted out or put to sleep.”

“In California, animals must be kept at a shelter for six days, not including the day on which the animal was found. [48] After that, the animal can be adopted out or euthanized.”

“Shelters in Houston, Texas must hold an animal for three days if it is unlicensed or otherwise unidentifiable. [51] If the animal is licensed, tattooed, or microchipped, it must be held for six days after the owner was notified that animal was in the shelter (notification must be made by mail or telephone). [52] On the seventh day, the shelter may dispose of the animal at its discretion. “

http://www.animallaw.info/articles/dduspetadoption.htm

“If an animal is not claimed by its owner within five days after being so delivered to such humane society or society for the prevention of cruelty to animals, or pound, such animal may at any time thereafter be placed for adoption in a suitable home or euthanized.”

http://www.nyshumane.org/manual/manualHTML/Ch7NYS/NYSLaws_25B.htm

Looks like animal shelters can, after the prescribed waiting period, either kill the animal or sell it to a research lab.

And NY is going after the farmer?


19 posted on 02/01/2013 6:35:27 AM PST by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: lysie
We have Indian Villages all over Alaska. Wife and I taught at this one village (common practice everywhere though) that they never spayed the dogs and the dogs continuously had litter after litter. When the puppies were about 4 months, they were all killed just in time for another litter it seemed. When I asked the Indians why they didn't just spay the females; they answered "What would the kids play with then?" Indians saw the purpose of puppies on this earth was to amuse the kids. Perfectly normal and accepted in their world view.

Packs of dogs running around the village was to keep the bears from strolling down the village road; which was quite common come spring. I saw the dogs kill and eat each other and when I started throwing out lunch scraps to the dogs, I was told to stop. They wanted starving dogs, made good bear chasers the Indians claimed.

It all sounded different to me, but who am I to judge their way of doing things. The left should do the same.

20 posted on 02/01/2013 6:36:24 AM PST by Eska
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