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DC v. Heller Attorney: NY Gun Law “Clearly Unconstitutional”
Cybercast News Service ^ | January 31, 2013 | Patrick Burke

Posted on 01/31/2013 7:59:51 PM PST by Olog-hai

Attorney Alan Gura, who successfully represented plaintiff Dick Heller in the Supreme Court case DC v Heller, which struck down a ban on handguns as unconstitutional, said the new gun control law in New York signed by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo is “clearly unconstitutional.”

Speaking at a discussion on Jan. 29 at Cornell University Law School, Gura specifically mentioned the law’s seven-round bullet limit for gun magazines as unconstitutional. …

Gura added that plaintiff Dick Heller’s gun—which was illegal under the unconstitutional handgun ban in the District of Columbia—would also have been illegal under the New York law because of the gun’s amount of rounds. …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; andrewcuomo; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 01/31/2013 7:59:57 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

If limiting to 7 rounds is unconstitutional, based on handguns in common use having more, then a 10 round limit would be unconstitutional also.

How many AR’s commonly have 20+ round mags?


2 posted on 01/31/2013 8:16:00 PM PST by umgud
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To: Olog-hai

The Libs, and to a great extent, politicians who are more than happy with the status quo, feel they can pass anything they want, Constitution be da**ed. I’m convinced their thinking is “try and stop us”.


3 posted on 01/31/2013 8:20:39 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Olog-hai

Of course it’s unconstutional....that’s a no brainer. ALL gun control laws
are unconstitutional. Problem is that if the law is overturned that ruling will
be appealed by the state of NY till they get a ruling in their favor. If necessary they will go to the SCOTUS and while Heller vs DC does state that 2A is an individual right it also states it can be “regulated” That statement essentially grants the government carte blanche to impose gun control.
As long as they allow citizens to own some type of weapon even if the acquisition of that weapon is extremely difficult then all is OK in the la la land of jurisprudence. The federal court system was one of the very first
institutions infiltrated and seized by the marxists. Freedom and rights will
find few friends sitting on the bench these days.


4 posted on 01/31/2013 8:21:00 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: Olog-hai
in DC v Heller they held that anything that is commonly used for lawful purposes is protected by the 2nd Amendment. They even mention the M-16 by name. Here's one write up with more details: http://common-sen.se/awb2013-unconstitutional/
5 posted on 01/31/2013 8:22:13 PM PST by chris from pa
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To: umgud

AR15’s and M16’s were originally issued with 20 round magazines. 30 rounders have been “standard” capacity for a long time.


6 posted on 01/31/2013 8:27:55 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: chris from pa

The M16 footnote in Heller is, methinks, widely misunderstood. It opined that if M16s may be prohibited, then the militia clause is severed from the 2ndA rendering that verbiage meaningless; since one presumes the Founding Fathers did not include meaningless verbiage, then M16s must be legal. Seems the author was all but saying “bring on a case overturning 922(o) already, it’s a slam dunk”.


7 posted on 01/31/2013 8:28:18 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: nvscanman

“and while Heller vs DC does state that 2A is an individual right it also states it can be “regulated”

Heller stated that only firearms that are “unusual and dangerous” can be banned and that handguns don’t meet that standard. That would suggest that “dangerous” means the weapon in itself is so indiscriminate in nature that its mere existence and use would threatens the lives and rights of others. It’s doubtful that any firearm meets that standard unless one was invented that randomly fires on its own without human intervention and sprays bullets all over town with no means of controlling it. Or, if someone possessed a biological weapon for example that might leak and wipe out the whole town. So the NY gun grabbers shouldn’t count on Heller to back up their over-reaching legislation.


8 posted on 01/31/2013 9:00:32 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: ctdonath2

If Alan Gura got 922(o) ruled unconstitutional, I’d be pretty busy with the Form1s and scribbling out $200 checks to the US Treasury for the following few days. When the stamps finally came back, there’d be some drilling, milling, grinding, and tig welding taking place in the old garage.

You can come over if you like. I got nothing but miles and miles of hilltop desert behind the house where we can test the results.


9 posted on 01/31/2013 11:16:09 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Bring back the booby hatches.)
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To: ctdonath2
Seems the author was all but saying “bring on a case overturning 922(o) already, it’s a slam dunk”.

You mean like U.S. vs. Rock Island Armory (HTML, EPUB)? or U.S. vs. Dalton (HTML, EPUB)? Both struck down 922(o) in their entirety.

10 posted on 02/01/2013 6:41:26 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: zeugma

Those didn’t invalidate 922(o), they ruled people couldn’t be punished for not registering under NFA when BATFE refused to accept registration under NFA because 922(o) prohibited possession.


11 posted on 02/01/2013 1:15:49 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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