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Mark Levin: Obama Not Destroying GOP, Republican Establishment Is
Real Clear Politics ^ | January 29, 2013 | Mark Levin and Sean Hannity

Posted on 01/29/2013 2:29:13 PM PST by neverdem

MARK LEVIN: Is Obama destroying the Republican Party? No, the Republican establishment is destroying the Republican Party. The only reason they’re in the majority in the House is because of conservatives — conservatives across the country, the grassroots. They lost the Senate. They like to point to two races, one in Missouri and one in Indiana. I can point to ten races where there were liberal-to-moderate Republicans who lost, and of course they never mention that.

The fact of the matter is, from my opinion, I’m not trying to project it on to you. Until the Republican leadership that has brought us McCain and Romney, that has a feckless RNC, a preposterously incompetent get-out-the-vote operation, is removed and replaced, with fresh, smart, confident, knowledgeable people, until some of our backbenchers move to the front, some of the young Tea Party conservative candidates who can articulate our vision and our principles, this is going to continue.

Obama may want to destroy the Republican Party, but the Republican Party is imploding. And, you know what, it needs to be cleansed. It needs to be cleaned out. Not for purity reasons, not for absolutism, but because it needs to be a party that stands for something. Can you tell me what the Republican Party stands for today?

SEAN HANNITY: I can tell you what they should stand for. I can tell you what the opening is, but that’s it. I could tell you that it’s frustrating sitting back here and not hearing them articulate the vision that you and I both know would save the country. Where is the party of limited government? Where is the party of freedom? Where is the party of balanced budgets? Where is the party to stop generational theft? I say these things, I listen to these pundits...

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1 posted on 01/29/2013 2:29:19 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Amen.


2 posted on 01/29/2013 2:33:02 PM PST by libbylu
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To: neverdem

"The conservatives are such fools.
Obama, Soros and the MSM will always protect us.
"




3 posted on 01/29/2013 2:42:17 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: neverdem

Levin gets it....but the GOP doesn’t...or they just don’t care. I swear they’re in bed with the communist takeover.


4 posted on 01/29/2013 2:45:14 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: neverdem
Spot on. The truism is that leadership is an extreme version of the rank and file. GOP leadership is an extreme version of country clubbers. Conservatives are an embarrassment to them. These people aren't my leader, they're my enemy.
5 posted on 01/29/2013 2:47:21 PM PST by Varda
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To: neverdem
Spot on. The truism is that leadership is an extreme version of the rank and file. GOP leadership is an extreme version of country clubbers. Conservatives are an embarrassment to them. These people aren't my leaders, they're my enemy.
6 posted on 01/29/2013 2:48:08 PM PST by Varda
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To: Diogenesis

7 posted on 01/29/2013 2:48:26 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch
HA

love it

the rinoz are not our only problem - its the noot pouters that refused to vote

8 posted on 01/29/2013 2:53:16 PM PST by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: Bratch

And he still hasn’t explained why he did this. “It was stupid” is not an explanation, regardless of how many times Hannity says it is.


9 posted on 01/29/2013 2:55:29 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: sloop
Best any one could determine the folks who didn't show up to vote were still objecting to the nomination of Barry Goldwater. That'd be the Rockefeller Republicans who were led out of the 1964 convention by GEORGE ROMNEY.

Think of it as the dead hand of the past reaching up from the grave to hit his misbehaving son up side the head!

10 posted on 01/29/2013 2:56:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

They think that “moderating” by handing out amnesty and caving on other stuff is going to help them. They won’t gain anyone they will just lose the base and the base’s votes.


11 posted on 01/29/2013 2:56:24 PM PST by Cubs Fan (If the republican party wants to be the democrat lite party then they don't need my vote)
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To: neverdem

They think that “moderating” by handing out amnesty and caving on other stuff is going to help them. They won’t gain anyone they will just lose the base and the base’s votes.


12 posted on 01/29/2013 2:56:33 PM PST by Cubs Fan (If the republican party wants to be the democrat lite party then they don't need my vote)
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To: Bratch

The photo means nothing. Your smear effort speaks more about your lack of understanding of the world than it does about Newt


13 posted on 01/29/2013 2:57:00 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: muawiyah
um - i’d have to see proof of that - and not from a noot tard website
14 posted on 01/29/2013 3:01:51 PM PST by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: neverdem

GOP = The Masterbation Party..
Changing hands is frowned upon but done if one hand gets too bloody..


15 posted on 01/29/2013 3:06:20 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: neverdem

the sooner conservatives to get on the outside of the r-party (in all but the solid counties and states), the better. at that point, conservatives can begin to unify.


16 posted on 01/29/2013 3:07:56 PM PST by dadfly
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To: bert

so educate us about the real world


17 posted on 01/29/2013 3:08:31 PM PST by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: neverdem

I agree


18 posted on 01/29/2013 3:18:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: neverdem

Unless they change course, the Republican party is destined to collapse with a speed rivaling the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism in Eastern Europe twenty years ago...


19 posted on 01/29/2013 3:19:55 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: bert

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/newt-gingrich-now-supports-same-sex-civil-not-religious-marriage/politics/2012/12/20/56927

Evidence enough?


20 posted on 01/29/2013 3:27:18 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: sloop
If you take a look at the Republican presidential vote over the last three elections you'll observe "W" got 64 million votes. McCain got 59 million votes +, and Romney got about 60 million votes.

So, tell me, who stayed home in McCain's case? Then, tell me, how did Romney get just about the same number of votes as McCain if Conservatives stayed home?

The big drop off was from "W" to McCain. That's where we lost the Colon Pow vote ~ and they weren't all black guys ~ they were who they were ~ and that's the crowd who walked out on Barry Goldwater!@ They walked out again and voted for Obamagoober in 2008.

This, BTW, is how cohesive factions slip from one major coalition party to another. We just lost a whole big bunch of non-professional GOP-e types in the McCain vote. They solidified their adherence to Democrat treachery and treason in the 2008 vote. They ain't comin' back.

This is one of the major reasons why Romney, who was depending on GOP-e foot soldiers, ended up without foot soldiers for his campaign ~ whenever it was supposed to begin.

That 4 million voter loss from "W" to McCain to Romney was about 6.25% of our expected fieldable voting strength. I've been estimating the GOP-e as, at most, 15% of Republican numbers, but this experience strongly suggests we've lost nearly half of them already and only have 8.75% more and we will be rid of them.

I'd guess about now they are starting to demand a seat at the table from the unions ~ whoops, I mean the DNC!!!

Hidden in the quantum noise we may have picked up 4 million black voters. Notice that Obama's numbers dropped from 2008 to 2012 ~ they went somewhere. Let's say that's black voters fed up with this posseur's BS and they slipped back over to the Republican column like they did before 1964 ~ JFK only got 75% of the black vote BTW ~ we got the others.

So they lied in exit interviews, but black voters could have easily protested the Obama failure to come to grip with their problems.

If Romney actually got those 4 million voters, we may well have lost all the other Rockefeller Republicans to the Democrats, so then we don't need to worry about them, and the lingering group of professional GOP-e's simply have no voting strength behind them!

That 4 million black vote would be a full 25% of black voting strength ~ and in critical areas. Maybe as the others figure out we have redistricted to give black people more guaranteed black Congressmen and members of state legislatures, we can pick them up and move back to the pre-Roosevelt 45% to 60% black voting strength that was historically ours.

The Democrats will be slow to recognize that their enticement of the hispanics to their banner has driven away the blacks.

21 posted on 01/29/2013 3:37:04 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

“I said to him, “Your troops are most of them old, decayed serving men and tapsters and such kind of fellows. …You must get men of a spirit that are likely to go as far as they[10] will go, or you will be beaten still.” It may not be easy to find these men. They can be found only by trial and by ruthlessly discarding all who fail and have their failings discovered. We are fighting to-day for our life, for our liberty, for our all; we cannot go on being led as we are. I have quoted certain words of Oliver Cromwell. I will quote certain other words. I do it with great reluctance, because I am speaking of those who are old friends and associates of mine, but they are words which, I think, are applicable to the present situation. This is what Cromwell said to the Long Parliament when he thought it was no longer fit to conduct the affairs of the nation: “You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go”

- Leo Amery, speaking in the debate that resulted in Chamberlain’s replacement by Churchill in 1940.

The Republicans will be beaten still, until there are leaders who intend to stand for something (and something other than pork, trying to out-Democrat the Democrats, and be all things to all people while simultaneously being nothing) and are willing to fight- putting principle foremost, and willing to denounce their enemies as exactly that- enemies.


22 posted on 01/29/2013 3:37:49 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: neverdem

Democrats and RINOS
GOD DENIERS AND CONGENITAL LIARS
ARE REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH INCITERS
FOR FIRST YOUR MONEY THEN YOUR GUNS
AND BE DEFENSELESS WHEN CROOKS COME

Great for easy to make and distribute palmcards to pass around


23 posted on 01/29/2013 4:14:49 PM PST by mosesdapoet (.Should this former Chicago "Mechanic" go out of retirement ?)
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To: neverdem

IS?? What does he mean IS?? The party of STUPID is done. Best example is it took Boehner four years to make the statement he thinks Obama is out to destroy the Republican party...

FOUR years for this A$$hat to realize that. Geeeze

Yeah the party of Stupid IS dead.


24 posted on 01/29/2013 4:59:13 PM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: neverdem

Name me one principle that the GOPe will fight and die for. Immigration, abortion, gay marriage, gun rights, the debt, taxes, social security reform, tax reform, healthcare.
The difference is that the GOPe will not stand up for any thing anymore, but these libtards will fight to the death for any of these issues.

Until the party decides to stand for something, Anything? they only stand for trying to win elections. Rubio sold his soul to McBlame and and Lindsey for what. Border security first. Think this bunch of idiots on the left will wait 10 years to secure the border? Once they get the shadow people out in the sunlight, this Country will never secure another inch of the border. Its 1986 all over again, and McLame will get to vote for another Immigration reform bill.


25 posted on 01/29/2013 5:28:06 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: JohnD9207
Name me one principle that the GOPe will fight and die for.
Keeping conservatives out of power.
26 posted on 01/29/2013 5:44:28 PM PST by Bratch
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To: bert
The photo means nothing. Your smear effort speaks more about your lack of understanding of the world than it does about Newt


27 posted on 01/29/2013 5:47:36 PM PST by Bratch
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To: muawiyah

Simpler answer.

Conservatives have left the republican party in 2008 with the nomination of McCain.

They ain’t coming back. That’s the crucial 6, 7 percent of the party that determines which way the wind goes. They pull their support - the republicans lose - they come in and turn out, Republicans win. Same as it always was.

Nominate a conservative and we’ll be wondering “why was this so hard?”


28 posted on 01/29/2013 5:55:08 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Bratch

Just for your information.......might want to read what Levin said about Newt

Republicans must remember that Gingrich was the first GOP speaker of the House in almost 50 years, Levin said. “He was fighting Democrats to win the House of Representatives before most of the people trashing him on the Internet were old enough to wipe themselves ... before most of the commentators on TV were switching from Democrats to Republicans.”

It’s OK to criticize Gingrich, Levin said. “But don’t count me among those who are going to destroy the man,” he continued. “You can disagree with the man on substance, but don’t turn him into some Marxist, Reagan-hating mental case, because he’s not.”

Levin is particularly angry with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, an aggressive Romney supporter. “I was appalled when the two-year governor of New Jersey, who has done absolutely zero for the conservative movement, gets on TV and regurgitates all the ethical bull crap thrown at Newt Gingrich when he was speaker of the House.”


29 posted on 01/29/2013 5:58:38 PM PST by Toespi
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To: lgjhn23
Levin gets it....but the GOP doesn’t...or they just don’t care. I swear they’re in bed with the communist takeover.

The Ruling Party.


30 posted on 01/29/2013 6:04:43 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: JCBreckenridge
The simpler answer is the wrong answer. The leftwingtards ~ the countryclubbers ~ abandoned the party after W. They've got a long history of doing that ~ goes way back into the 1800s. It's the moral folks, the Abolitionists and their successors, who stick through the party and vote out of their sense of patriotism ~ something you cannot ever expect of the GOP-e.

There's your answer ~ the godless, soulless, atheist, homosexualist, double-dealer, kneejerk, robotlike, kneejerk crowd who imagine they run the Republican party ABANDONED IT

31 posted on 01/29/2013 6:07:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: JCBreckenridge
BTW, in 2006 we saw a mid-term where it seemed the Republican party had been overrun by and taken over by homosexuals and pedophiles. We lost 26 million voters from the total we'd had in the previous presidential race.

That was the greatest mid-term defection in history ~ most analysts have used that as an upper limit to the Conservative vote assuming all Conservatives chose that as an opportunity to show displeasure. Actually, that was just the hard-core Christian vote who concern themselves with such matters in politics ~ there are about 17 million of thems. The other 9 million were simply voters who prefer to not vote in anything but the presidential race.

The fall off from W to McCain is no where near the 17 million hard core serious minded Christian numbers ~ it's just 4 million. That's the Republican left.

32 posted on 01/29/2013 6:18:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: neverdem

What does the GOP stand for? Tax cuts? That’s the only thing they have pushed for decades. On every other issue they have caved and bowed to leftist demands. No principles=no support.

The new conservatives like Rubio and Cruz better watch it. Especially Rubio, the crosshairs are on him now. Notice how he is the early favorite for 2016. The RINOs and Commies have made a backroom pact to triangulate him and take him out by pushing immigration. They know Rubio will cave and support amnesty in the end and his viability will be gone.
If he doesn’t cooperate the RINOs will work with the Commies to paint Rubio as an extremist so much that he loses his next reelection bid. And that’s how the game works. Destroy the nationalist conservative opposition so we the Democans can maintain our power hold on the status quo.


33 posted on 01/29/2013 6:53:12 PM PST by Axamari
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To: Toespi

Newt needs to gracefully recede from the stage a la Dick Cheney.

He’s too erratic to be an effective conservative spokesman.

IMO.


34 posted on 01/29/2013 6:57:05 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

As a reminder......Newt Gingrich was the ONLY primary candidate to get a standing ovation during the debates, which unfortunately brought the GOP GHOULS out to assist Romney in a sleazy campaign. Newt Gingrich is the most articulate conservative politician in America. Newt Gingrich is far from erratic, it just takes an intelligent person to keep up with him.


35 posted on 01/29/2013 7:08:52 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Toespi
...it just takes an intelligent person to keep up with him.
You've outed me.


36 posted on 01/29/2013 7:35:02 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Rofl


37 posted on 01/29/2013 7:36:28 PM PST by Toespi
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To: Bratch

I fear you are right. The Party won the House because of the Tea Party movement. Instead of embracing these newcomers, the part chieftains fought to keep them from leading positions. They had their lineup for 2012, and even to win, they were not going to accept a conservative candidate.


38 posted on 01/29/2013 8:02:01 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Bratch

We have a winner, exactly. Time for a real party that has conservative values in mind, not guys like Rubio who are so easily fooled by McBlAME. Honestly as Rubio cries foul today, why would anyone think that the dems would agree to wait until the border is secure before placing the shadow people in the short line? The only people in the shadows are fair skinned red haired folks who cannot be in the sun. I saw 25 shadow people building 2 houses today and you can bet they were not doing it for $3.00/hr. Time to call these idiots on their bluff.


39 posted on 01/29/2013 8:14:44 PM PST by JohnD9207 (Isn't freedom worth fighting for?)
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To: All

So, will there be a “special” Hannity TV show that will cover this?


40 posted on 01/29/2013 8:40:03 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long does America have?)
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To: neverdem

Mark must know that it is the little Republican primary voters who keep the establishment entrenched in election after election.


41 posted on 01/29/2013 9:02:39 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: muawiyah

I am not so sanguine. Just because fewer than all the conservatives left, does not mean that some of the conservatives did not leave.

Why would a liberal vote for Bush yet not vote for McCain? That to me makes little sense. What makes to me more sense, is that some of the conservatives chose not to stick with McCain.


42 posted on 01/29/2013 9:38:20 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: muawiyah

Again, this based on the false premise that the conservatives would support the party just because they are conservatives and believe that this is their duty. At some point the question comes forth - the party does not wish to support our ideals, so why do we support the party?


43 posted on 01/29/2013 9:39:53 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Theodore R.
Mark must know that it is the little Republican primary voters who keep the establishment entrenched in election after election.
You mean the early primaries that are focused in states that overwhelmingly vote Democrat?

The ones that the GOP-e insist on keeping "open"?

44 posted on 01/29/2013 10:03:22 PM PST by Bratch
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To: lgjhn23

I hate to say it but I feel in my heart it may be time for some drastic and perhaps otherwise unthinkable action.

I can only pray that they exist somewhere out there someone brave & skilled enough to pull it off before its too late.

It brings great sadness to my heart to recognize that there is in any event little to no hope for liberty under this “Federal” Government. No future election is likely to ever change that fact, just as no past election has ever had any similar effect.

Government are made by and of men known as politicians who have almost uniformly shared one defining characteristic, the desire for power. We cannot have hope to reclaim liberty when it runs against the grain of this characteristic, nor can we ever expect to elect a lot of such men who reject it.

This is the way things have been sense the beginning of time and the reason Government are known to almost uniformly grow corrupt until falling. The reformation & restoration we have hope to see will not and cannot come from Washington.


45 posted on 01/29/2013 10:09:53 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: neverdem; Jim Robinson

"Conservative talk show hosts are the Paul Reveres and Thomas Paines of today and they can be incredibly important in the larger picture" 

 

"We have every opportunity and every encouragement before us, to form the noblest, purest constitution on the face of the earth. We have it in our power to begin the world over again."

Click HERE to see for yourself

46 posted on 01/30/2013 4:47:54 AM PST by Vintage Freeper (We have it in our power to begin the world over again.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
In the face of tens of millions of voters even 100,000 is a small number.

This all goes back to the very origins of the Whig party ~ they were the guys supporting the National Bank! Whenever there were serious financial issues the old Whig wing of the Republican party has been ready to jump ship ~ the morally driven side, the Abolitionists, stayed the course.

47 posted on 01/30/2013 6:37:06 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Theodore R.; muawiyah; Bratch; JCBreckenridge
Mark must know that it is the little Republican primary voters who keep the establishment entrenched in election after election.

That's more easily said than explained. Primary turnouts are fractions of the general election turnout of voters, but as far as most of the House of Representatives goes, if you win the primary, you probably got the job. Why would a conservative or small 'l' libertarian vote for someone on the right in the House, and then vote for a RINO for statewide office or President? That doesn't make sense to me.

I've posted results from exit polls since 2006. You can find them using 20xxexitpoll as the keyword by substituting the correct numbers for the particular general election.

2006 and 2008 GOP general election losses were explained by moderates and/or independents bailing out on the GOP.

In 2010 the GOP got 60 % of the white vote for the first time.

In 2012 the GOP got 60 % of the white vote, but an expected 7 - 8 million white voters didn't go to the polls.

The Case of the Missing White Voters

Open primaries in some states only explains part of these anomalous results. Low information independent voters in the general election explains more, IMHO. There are many states where the independents, aka unaffiliated, outnumber registered rats or pubbies. IIRC, the national average of those independents is close to 40 %.

48 posted on 01/30/2013 1:05:34 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Monorprise; muawiyah; JCBreckenridge; Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America; Vintage Freeper
....drastic and perhaps otherwise unthinkable action.....

We are pussy-footin' around the basic question here. The GOP must die. How do we engineer a dignified and honorable death, instead of a horrible, slow, internecine torture with cheering Democrats poised to take over for the rest of our lives?

Perhaps "Conservatives" should simply forget any hope of Federal power and concentrate on winning states, placing them under strong, anti-federal conservative governors and legislatures. What is "Strong?" A governor for example, who realizes that the states still have the power to select their senators by vote of state legislatures and will fight for it in court if necessary.

In re "Conservative" talk show hosts: wake TF up. These recycled Rock'n'Roll Disc Jockeys (Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, the despicable Schnitt, e.g.) are not leaders. They are not political philosophers. They are in many cases woefully uneducated radio geeks whose job it is to sell the believers Sleep Number Beds and Gold Bars, among other advertisers' products. Preaching to the choir (or niche market) is no way to build church membership. They leave major issues untouched. IMNSVHO, they all have "0" or minus effect on elections. In fact, IMNSVHO, they are at least partially responsible for turning the last fiasco into a personality contest rather than a hard-hitting policy-based campaign; not wise when your candidate has no personality. The Left has the media. We have hours of negative rants all day long.

Romney may have picked up on their constant negativity and anti-Obama posturing and ran a "I'm not Obama" campaign. Perhaps that's what led to the low white voter turn-out. Let's face it ... Those so-called "conservatives" who stayed home are just as ignorant as the newly discovered "Low-Info" voters. Dumb bastards the solid Democrat base may be, but they were smarter than the white millions of talk radio listeners who may have stayed on the couch for the election. That is, many of the "Low-Info" people apparently at least voted, (or were voted ... which is another story uncovered by the "conservative" hosts).

Why can't we use the radio to promote A PROGRAM, The PLAN to IMPLEMENT IT, and to discover the LEADER to make it clear and inspire citizen followers?

You ain't gonna find any of that on talk radio. It's all "How bad is Obama ... He's taking our guns ... Buy this gold bar... This Identity Protection Software!"

49 posted on 01/31/2013 3:04:42 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Say, what the hell happened to Reggie Love? Who's in the playroom with Barry now?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Just because two people ask you out doesn’t mean you have to go out with either...


50 posted on 01/31/2013 3:14:28 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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