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N. Korea likely to test fusion-boosted fission bomb able to reach U.S.
Asahi Shimbun ^ | January 25, 2013 | YOSHIHIRO MAKINO

Posted on 01/29/2013 2:15:42 PM PST by Strategerist

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To: billorites
That timeline is what I dimly remembered. Used to be a caual student of nuke design.

Drawing a blank on "keg stand". never ran across that term before.

21 posted on 01/29/2013 3:10:36 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Strategerist

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23 posted on 01/29/2013 3:11:48 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Strategerist

I still say that the whole North Korean nuke program is a joke.

First explosion? Get 500 tons of TNT and blow it up!
Second explosion? Get 2X more!

Remember the first explosion when NO trace molecules for a nuke were seen leaking from the site, until the media notices and reported it, and then somehow they magically appeared?

I think that all the main nuke work and testing is occurring in Iran.

The rocket they launched is the delivery method. I believe they are shooting for a dozen-kiloton EMP 200 miles above the East Coast and are praying it will work.


24 posted on 01/29/2013 3:21:28 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Strategerist
News out of North Korea is never totally reliable, but food shortages have reportedly gotten so bad that people are murdering their own children for food.
Back in 2003, during another food shortage there were refugee accounts that people in the country began killing and eating their children and then selling remnants of their corpses.
If things are as bad as "rumor" has them, Korea has nothing to left to lose.
25 posted on 01/29/2013 3:26:40 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: BenLurkin
Did Red China give North Korea the missile portable bomb designs which were sold to it by Bill Clinton?

It was Carter who gave Korea nuke technology - "for peaceful purposes only", of course.

26 posted on 01/29/2013 3:31:21 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Strategerist

NK just wants to make headlines and rattle sabers to blackmail the free world for more aid. I won’t lose sleep over this. But I do worry about their people.


27 posted on 01/29/2013 3:51:37 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Strategerist

If we responded to the Norks with 1,000 H-bombs, Korea wouldn’t look any different than it does now.


28 posted on 01/29/2013 4:28:32 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: billorites; doorgunner69
Boosted fission bombs were developed well before the staged thermonuclear weapons. Boosted fission bombs were what the Eniwetok tests were about in 1950 or 51.

Sorry no. The one 1951 boosted fission test Greenhouse Item was a proof of concept test, no way related to a deployable weapon (it used cryogenic booster fuel)

The 1951 test was primarily to test the nuclear principles involved, and to gain research data, and it was not considered a design for a weaponizable device. Even as late as 1954, no boosted weapon had entered into the nuclear-weapons stockpile, and the only use for the Greenhouse Item nuclear test had been for its research results.

This is not a deployable lightweight weapon

The first operational US TNs (The Mk 15 and 17) entered in service in 1955.

The first boosted fission weapons (the W-34 and the TN W-28) in 1958

Comparison without BF: W-7Betty depth bomb 1955 30" dia 1000 lbs

With BF: W-34Lulu depth bomb 1958 17" dia 300lbs


29 posted on 01/29/2013 5:06:35 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (I think, therefore I am what I yam, and that's all I yam - "Popeye" Descartes)
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To: doorgunner69
"The trick is injection tritium into the hollow pit of a fission device just before detonation. The intense fission reaction is sufficient to start fusion of the tritium and radically increase the yield both from added fusion energy and releasing a lot more neutrons further increasing the fission yield."

Not the best way to do it. The Russians replaced the unstable tritium with nice stable lithium deuteride. I forget the exact mechanism, but I think the neutron flux and pressure of the fission explosion causes the Li of the LiD to convert to tritium, which then fuses per normal, yielding a bigger bang and a more stable warhead.

30 posted on 01/29/2013 5:08:43 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Strategerist

Oh Goody!

It looks like we have another opportunity to test our anti-missle systems!

But, Zer0, do you have the balls to shoot it down?


31 posted on 01/29/2013 5:20:32 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Wonder Warthog
You may be mixing up the design settled on for second stage of modern two stage nukes. yeah, the Russians did it first, we followed with the wildy successful Castle Bravo.

Boosting fission bombs, particularly where the pit is often removed may be a different matter. Not being a physicist, I could not say if you easily figure out the mechanics of stuffing solid Lithium Deuturide fuel capsule into a metallic Plutonium pit during manufacturing, or how well it would work.

Tritium being a gas, is easy to store by itself. Does not have a long shelf life, so needs to be renewed periodically. One of the problems being run into with our stockpile.

Since it can be injected quite easily into a hollow Pu pit, I gather that this is one of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" designs that has evolved in nukes.

If wrong, would love to read more, have read about this for longer than most Freepers have been alive. Sick fascination, perhaps, but I grew up with the duck and cover crap in schools.

32 posted on 01/29/2013 8:57:45 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: varmintman

Short answer: No.


33 posted on 01/30/2013 6:31:55 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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