Skip to comments.Petition to Establish Civil Guard of gun owners (aka Militia)
Posted on 01/28/2013 4:07:42 PM PST by njslim
Be it resolved that any person legally competent to posess firearms shall, by posessing such arms, be obligated to muster under authority of legally elected officers, to recieve training in firearms laws and firearms qualification and basic militia tactics, and shall have assigned duties during times of national or state emergencies, to include invasion by foreign powers, insurrection or natuiral disasters. Such duties shall include, but not be limited to community policing, assisting in evacuationn and other relief actions and securing of basic infrastructure. Such assigned duties shall take into consideration the physical limitations of the member. Persons found mentally or morally unfit to perform such duties shall be barred from posessing firearms until such disability be removed.
We already have this. The feds and their state and local accomplices simply refuse to acknowledge it.
There is an Act on record. It is the Dick Act of 1902.
Too bad these “petitions” are meaningless under our constitution. Take it up with your congressmen.
No need to register gun owners, anti-government types etc..they do it themselves by signing the petitions and give the government their IP address to boot...smart...
I will never understand this naive and enduring faith in petitions. Except where called for by law, they're nothing more than statistically inaccurate opinion polls.
I’m reminded of the German engineer who ended up doing manual labor building the Autobahn wrote to Hitler to complain that a mistake had been made.
A more famous case is John Rabe who complained to Hitler about the treatment of Chinese in Nanking.
Don’t need any such law. The 2nd Amendment already covers it. And the State Legislators have the right to levy a temporary tax to fund any supplies and ammo the State Legislators wish to bestow on volunteers who assemble and form a Militia group. Just like they did in the early days of this great nation.
I’m glad my state is strengthening laws dealing with legal petitions. Things like better disclosure of who is funding them and who is collecting the names. Sounds like they’re also looking at ways of verifying that the names are people who actually wanted to sign them.
Lots of funding by lottery back in the early days.
Just what is the source/intent of the petition??
They know who I am.
The stated goal of the gun grabbers is to eliminate weapons in a generation. One of the ways they can do this is to force gun owners underground. How will gun ownership values be passed along other than to keep and bear arms in the open?
“How will gun ownership values be passed along other than to keep and bear arms in the open?”
Then I suppose you have no problems with universal registration? a data base of all individuals with CW? registration of all ammo purchases?
You can be as open as you want but I’ll keep my head under the barbed wire..learned a long time ago that’s the best way to survive
Yep and endowments by the richer citizens of the State. Franklin raised money to buy cannons and powder and shot and contributed a good chunk of change himself to help form the militia in and around Philly and the Ohio Frontier.
A bit of a false dichotomy. The CCW permit makes sense in order to require some standard of training. A background check before weapon purchase is reasonable if no records are kept by the government (a solvable technology problem). Gun ownership ought to be ubiquitous and the check should be simple and focused on felonies. Ammo should have no checks or restrictions, In VIrginia it is generally unrestricted (I think it is just restricted to adults)
This opens the door to instant confiscation of all firearms in the country, simply because the government's criteria for mental and moral fitness will be impossible to meet.
Fortunately, this petition is also pointless because Obama does not have power to change the Constitution; and he shouldn't be given an excuse to even try.
Militias are not a federal prerogative. In common law they are formed locally, and are directed by the local Sheriff, as their legal authority, and by an elected leader if they so choose.
Posse Comitatus (the principle, not the Act), means that a Sheriff can designate any (or all) “adult persons of good character” as a member of their posse/militia, and do a Kennesaw, Georgia with them. That is, state that *by law* they are required to own a gun (with no penalty for non-compliance).
This overrides any federal gun turn-in demands, as all adult persons in that county are nominally LEOs.
That in my view is the answer. Forget the tax; forget the support.
You set up a state statutory authority to issue a militia identification to any able bodied citizen who wants to join.
Members are authorized to buy, sell, hold, possess, use, and practice using, any kind of firepower available to a U S Army unit.
If you are really aggressive, you authorize the supply officer for the state patrol to procure such firepower at cost for any member who wants it.
Next, you adopt a multi state compact for the states which have these authorized units, providing for joint training and other associated officer units.
How you save the country and our Constitutional form of government.
I concur with your assessment. However, my favorite liberal at my coffee shop ranted about how the GOP was stealing the vote of the people, blah blah. I asked him if he enjoyed the number of ballot initiatives last Nov. and he said no. I have learned that no matter what happens, the GOP is stealing, lying, hating.
Today I decided to fire off a letter to my new Governor (Pence, Indiana) asking him to appoint a retired officer in each county of Indiana to be responsible for a yearly muster of the unorganized militia. (See: Dick Act)
The petition rights mentioned in the Constitution are completely misconstrued. “To petition the government” meant to sue the government. The framers would not have thought that a list of demands from the citizenry would have had much effect.
Remonstrance is a comin’
Article, and # 19.
A Congressional Act that can not be repealed by another Congressional Act? A first, I believe.
No such petition is needed. The People can organize into a militia on their own authority.
The People need no permission from anyone to form militias.
This is a trap. Just leave your address with the WHite House so they know who to get at should the Shite hit the fan! Not too smart.
No permission is needed to form a militia.
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