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Boy Scouts of America considering dropping its ban on gay members
Fox News ^ | 1/28/2013 | Greg Norman

Posted on 01/28/2013 12:21:34 PM PST by Ron C.

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To: wolfman23601

I’ve gone as an Adult Leader on almost all of my son’s camping trips, the good news is that at least in our troops all of the adult leaders have sons in the troop.


51 posted on 01/28/2013 1:04:47 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Solson
This will effectively end the Boy Scouts as an organization.

Implosion

52 posted on 01/28/2013 1:05:26 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Well of course they are. What one generation tolerates, the next embraces.

Or, "If You Tolerate This, Your Children Will Be Next."

53 posted on 01/28/2013 1:05:44 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Ron C.

Might I add that instead of the Boyfriends of Scouts, parents look at more professionally minded organizations such as the Civil Air Patrol. Much more going on in CAP anyway.


54 posted on 01/28/2013 1:06:09 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: wolfman23601
Sexuality put aside, I would question anyone’s motive to desire spending the night in the woods with my son if they didn’t have their own child in the group.

And aint this a damned shame, too? I was in the Boy Scouts, and would have loved to give back.

But, because I never had children, I knew my motives would be questioned, and I would be looked at oddly, so I stayed away.

Damned shame. Purest intentions; cannot partipate.

55 posted on 01/28/2013 1:11:47 PM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: Ron C.
If they do that the BSA will no longer receive yearly contributions from me!

Ditto. I have no grandchildren yet. If this travesty is in place when they come of age for Scouts, I will lobby against any involvement.

56 posted on 01/28/2013 1:12:18 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: CodeToad

One of nieces was a member of CAP and loved it. It taught her many valuable things.


57 posted on 01/28/2013 1:13:17 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Darren McCarty

“Gay men and boys do not belong together for the same reason that you don’t have straight adult men as the supervisors of girl scouts.”

Well ... well ... Well. Excellent point. Why doesnt someone file a suit and express outrage that a male can’t lead and camp out with little girls? Perhaps in a prominent dem Senator’s district. Why doesnt some man sue that they are outraged they cant marry a 9 year old girl in the National Cathedral? Or a man marry two boys? Show these people where these stunts are going and how stupid they are.


58 posted on 01/28/2013 1:18:20 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Ron C.

There they go again; the “progressives” are attempting to turn back the clock...this time to Sodom and Gomorrah.


59 posted on 01/28/2013 1:19:33 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup> (Are liberals born stupid, or do they have to work at it???)
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To: Ron C.

In related news: The BSA has just hired Jerry Sandusky as their spokes”man”.

/s


60 posted on 01/28/2013 1:25:57 PM PST by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: SandRat

I don’t believe it, it’ll never happen, hopefully liberal propaganda.


61 posted on 01/28/2013 1:32:11 PM PST by PROCON (Never underestimate the power of low information voters in large numbers.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

“..What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....”

Wow!! Definitely, the post of the day, if not the post of this entire generation. It’s what I call a “zinger” and it’s so true. Lord help us.


62 posted on 01/28/2013 1:39:39 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Ron C.

With this capitulation, the scouts will be removing one more obstacle in the way of boys being groomed for sexual submission to homo predophiles(spelling intentional).

The pederast lobby gets what they wanted all along.


63 posted on 01/28/2013 1:45:35 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (John Winthrop's "City upon a Hill" just became a midden heap. Infested with rats and other vermin.)
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To: E=MC<sup>2</sup>
’ attempting to turn back the clock...this time to Sodom and Gomorrah.’

More correctly crating a social order where same sex relationships are normalized to the point where they are more accepted than the ethical and moral order of Christianity. This would be similar to the Classical world in say the Second Century AD. Even men considered upright, virtuous, and fine gentlemen such as the Emperor Trajan had ephebes in the official household for his pleasure and relaxation. Only excessive behavior such as that of another highly regarded imperial personage , Hadrian, over the death of his ‘beloved boy’ Antinous was thought to be bad form. I am fairly secular but can't but be struck by the determination of the liberal elites apparent desire to recreate a paganistic pantheistic culture. Only this is gutless paganism with none of the toughness and martial virtues of the men who ruled Macedonia and Alexander's successors or who held the ancient world under the sway of Rome.Instead what is sought is a weak socialistic humanistic order embracing pacifism, consumerism, hedonism, and legalism. This order will not last long before either the Jihadists or the Chinese.

64 posted on 01/28/2013 1:50:02 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Darren McCarty

Adult gay men and boys do not belong together for the same reason that you don’t have straight adult men as the supervisors of girl scouts.


That is exactly right. I was reading comments on Facebook’s WTAE Pittsburgh page, I hope you don’t mind that I posted what you wrote. I was trying to think of a short, succint, powerful reply to all the pro-gays on there, and what you wrote stood out. What parent in their right mind would want their young boy with a man who is attracted to men (and boys)??!!!


65 posted on 01/28/2013 1:55:42 PM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Doctor, there are many within the Beltway that work for this end either in public clamoring for ‘human rights’ or in closeted darkness backstabbing those who have a strong Bible based Christian world view or just a strong sense of traditional western/Christian values. Witness the crucifixion of Sarah Palin. Much of this came from within the GOP and not all of it was politically motivated. There are many in the GOP who reside in comfortable closets and keep their knives sharp to backstab anyone who opposes the queer agenda.
66 posted on 01/28/2013 1:55:57 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Ron C.
DON'T DO IT!
67 posted on 01/28/2013 1:58:00 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia; mrsmel
Here's a list of all the badges:

http://www.boyscouttrail.com/boy-scouts/merit-badges.asp

They don't yet have one for abortion, community organizing or interior decorating. On the other hand, they still have badges for rifle and shotgun shooting.

68 posted on 01/28/2013 2:05:03 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Lazamataz

Same here. What that says about society isn’t very good.


69 posted on 01/28/2013 2:09:17 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: All

This is Long Overdue. Bigotry and Hatred and Homophobia need to be a thing of the past.
2 hours ago · Like · 19..


So says Rebekah Pele Marie on Facebook. WTAE Pittsburgh posted the story.Her comment got 19 likes. Just one example of many, many pro-homosexual’s out there. Having your pre-teen boy sleep in a tent with a homo = good mothering.


70 posted on 01/28/2013 2:12:06 PM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: Ron C.

Homosexual men taking little boys out in the woods overnight...what could go wrong?

BTW-When will the girl scouts remove its restriction on letting male leaders share tents with little girls?
(It is girl scout policy that male leaders can not share a tent even with their own daughters)


71 posted on 01/28/2013 2:15:30 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Ron C.

You can choose to become an Eagle Scout, or a Flamingo Scout, based on your preference.


72 posted on 01/28/2013 2:15:37 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: All

This is Long Overdue. Bigotry and Hatred and Homophobia need to be a thing of the past.
2 hours ago · Like · 19..


So says Rebekah Pele Marie on Facebook. WTAE Pittsburgh posted the story.Her comment got 19 likes. Just one example of many, many pro-homosexual’s out there. Having your pre-teen boy sleep in a tent with a homo = good mothering.


73 posted on 01/28/2013 2:15:46 PM PST by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: Graybeard58

that’s one reason I didnt vote for romney


74 posted on 01/28/2013 2:35:18 PM PST by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: CodeToad

“According to Pete Williams’ report, the Irving-based organization is going to remove the ban from their national rules and leave the decision about whether to admit homosexuals to local organizations.

“The chartered organizations that oversee and deliver scouting would accept membership and select leaders consistent with their organization’s mission, principles or religious beliefs,” Deron Smith, a spokesman for the Boy Scouts’ national organization, told NBC News”

So the National organization caved into political pressure and blackmail from the queer supporters. BUT, individual “chartered oganizations” will still call the shots.

So we will have queer Boy Scout Troups all over ObamaLand, and no where in the South and the other states that didn’t vote for this queer-loving SOB.


75 posted on 01/28/2013 2:41:34 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Ron C.

If so, that’s the end of the Boy Scouts.


76 posted on 01/28/2013 2:45:03 PM PST by AdaGray (squi)
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To: Ron C.

So “be prepared” will now mean carrying tubes of KY?

Why don’t they just give out Merit Badges in sodomy?

Maybe I am lucky I married too late for kids / no $ to adopt. If one of these &T(T*&_} touched one of my kids, I’d wind up in jail.


77 posted on 01/28/2013 2:46:59 PM PST by Yehuda
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To: Ron C.

If they do this, get the boys out of the boy scouts, pronto! Before gays were banned, boys were abused big time in the Scouts. Homo perverts openly set up a vast, Nation-wide pedo ring in the scouts until it became a libality.

Really, men don’t necessiarily care if boys are abused. Penn state and the catholic church are not that unusual within large institutions. Parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, grandmas and grandpas need to care.

They need lawyers to go after the scouts if they resume the unsavory abuse activities of the past.


78 posted on 01/28/2013 2:49:35 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Ron C.

WHY gay teens increased 900% since 1980?

Bad parenting, pornography and now brainwashing kids with homo propaganda are not the main reasons.
The main reason by far is the hidden use of the drug BPA.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=d&noj=1&site=webhp&source=hp&q=+DRUGS+agenda+to+advance+PEDO


79 posted on 01/28/2013 2:52:33 PM PST by LastProphet
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Here’s their facebook statement:

MEDIA STATEMENT

Boy Scouts of America
Monday, Jan. 28, 2013
Attributable to: Deron Smith, Director of Public Relations

“For more than 100 years, Scouting’s focus has been on working together to deliver the nation’s foremost youth program of character development and values-based leadership training. Scouting has always been in an ongoing dialogue with the Scouting family to determine what is in the best interest of the organization and the young people we serve.

“Currently, the BSA is discussing potentially removing the national membership restriction regarding sexual orientation. This would mean there would no longer be any national policy regarding sexual orientation, and the chartered organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting would accept membership and select leaders consistent with each organization’s mission, principles, or religious beliefs. BSA members and parents would be able to choose a local unit that best meets the needs of their families.

“The policy change under discussion would allow the religious, civic, or educational organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting to determine how to address this issue. The Boy Scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members, or parents. Under this proposed policy, the BSA would not require any chartered organization to act in ways inconsistent with that organization’s mission, principles, or religious beliefs.”

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80 posted on 01/28/2013 2:53:46 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: SaraJohnson

Sodomites have infested every walk of life. Think of the movie “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”. The BSA is one of the last remaining organizations that have not officially caved into these child sex predators. They lied before and got in the Scouts, the say way sodomites lied to the Catholic Church and said they had “no strong homosexual urges” and would live a celibate life. 99% of sex abuse cases in the Catholic Church are from queers. They absolutely can not control their sexual urges, and the vast majority of them love teenage boys. The Church should kick everyone of them out save themselves millions of dollars in lawsuits. The same thing goes for the BSA. When you find out a perfert has infiltrated the scouts, first beat the living hell out of him, and tell him if he ever lays hands on a young man again he would be beat to death and his filthy hide fed to the hogs. You either fight fire with fire, or these degenerate bastards will destroy your sons and daughters for life. Sodomites are the scum of the earth, and will burn in the pits of hell when their days on this earth are done.


81 posted on 01/28/2013 3:05:08 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Ron C.

My son has his two sons in the BSA as of last Fall. I’ll pass this information along to him. Unfortunately, his LIBERAL wife will probably not find any problem with this. Grrrrrr.


82 posted on 01/28/2013 3:12:04 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Ron C.

There will have to be some new merit badges.


83 posted on 01/28/2013 3:12:33 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: LastProphet

I remember a psychologist who said it was reinforcement from mothers who really wanted daughters. They reinforced behavior which was female in their unwanted sons.


84 posted on 01/28/2013 3:15:40 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ron C.

Enough to make honest, God-fearing Americans want to puke.

When the BSA decides to join the politically correct, elite political class and welcome perverts into the ranks then they’ll be no better than the evil phony president and his joint chiefs of staff who want to legitimize buggery.


85 posted on 01/28/2013 3:20:23 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Ron C.

I sent this to the BSA today:

As a former Cubmaster and Scouting parent, I read with great dismay the letter on your website regarding the proposed change in the policy regarding sexual orientation. This proposed policy claims that Scouting has always been concerned about doing what is best for the young people that you serve. Add my voice to the list of those who will surely tell you in the coming days that a change in this policy will NOT serve those children well.

Your proposal states that “there would no longer be any national policy regarding sexual orientation.” This is false. Currently, the national policy disallows homosexual leaders and members. If you remove the policy, you are in force and effect ALLOWING homosexual leaders and members to participate, so whether the policy is written or not, Scouting will have implemented a policy that reverses course and allows what was previously disallowed.

The culture we live in is groaning with changes, and most of them are not good changes. Our kids are exposed to more sex and violence and swearing and examples of public figures who engage in dishonesty and corruption than at any time in our history, and with the ubiquity of cable television and 24 hour news and entertainment channels, the exposure is constant and nearly inescapable. As Scouting parents, we tell our children that “right” and “wrong” aren’t just words, but concepts that have meaning, and that they have to stand against the tide of change in the world. For over a hundred years, Scouting has been a constant that we could point to. When news of the so-called “controversial” policy would come on television, it always offered an opportunity for parents to answer questions that would be asked, or to ask some questions of our own and offer explanations about why Scouting’s stand in this area is important. For many kids who have non-religious parents, the stand by the Boy Scouts was the ONLY opportunity they might ever have to hear that there were reasons why allowing homosexuals in Scouting was not a good idea. By changing policy, you will be removing that potential for our kids to learn a positive message, and you will, instead, be telling them that in the face of withering criticism from politicians and the pop culture, EVEN SCOUTING will bend with the wind and do what’s popular instead of what’s right. You will, in effect, be endorsing homosexuality as an organization.

Your proposal also states that “BSA members and parents would be able to choose a local unit that best meets the needs of their families.” Will there be an official list available detailing which local organizations allow gay members and leaders? If not, then you’ll be doing a disservice to those who want to continue in Scouting without those influences, and what happens the first time that a local organization that doesn’t want to allow homosexuals is challenged by a family that wants in anyway? If you do provide such a list, however, then you will in fact be endorsing “homosexual-friendly” units, which would clearly mean that Scouting will have become a “homosexual friendly” organization. Again, you can’t claim to not have a national policy, when the lack of a national policy that once existed leads to proliferation and official sanctioning of something that the policy previously banned.

Change this policy at your peril. Doing so will be the first horn on the march towards the death of Scouting as we know it.


86 posted on 01/28/2013 3:22:22 PM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: InHisService

she must be training her son to be a daugher.

fool.

I wonder if they are going to create segregated troops. Like someone jokingly put, flamingo scouts vs eagle scouts.

I suspect the liability issue is in question here. Remember there is a lawyer suing the scouts over some sort of molestation by undetected homosexuals who were booted out after discovery.


87 posted on 01/28/2013 3:26:39 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ron C.

I would like to predict that if this happens, BSA will soon be a queers only org.

No sane person would willingly send their child camping with a queer.


88 posted on 01/28/2013 3:26:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ron C.

The Boy Scouts are considering this???
In 1972, there was a gay scoutmaster in my home town who molested a kid. I had heard about it and reported it to my Mom. She was in shock and had me repeat this.

She told my Dad and within 2 days, State troopers were at my house asking me to repeat this, along with the kids father.

The young boy was spared a trial, facing the scoutmaster, and the scoutmaster was forced to resign or face charges.
Is this is true, that the Boy Scouts are going to let homosexual men or boys in troops, then every American must leave the Boy Scouts immediately, for more molestations will occur.


89 posted on 01/28/2013 3:26:45 PM PST by RaceBannon (When Chuck Norris goes to bed, he checks under it for Clint Eastwood!)
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To: RaceBannon

this will dry up support and money.

homosexual may give money as a way of recruiting but the damage will be done beyond repair. this will become the new whats-his-name youth. (think ww II)


90 posted on 01/28/2013 3:29:56 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ryan71

“The public assumption will be that all boyscouts are gay.”

Same with the military. What do I think of when I see troops marching now? “Fags on parade?”

I realize that most of the men aren’t homos (right now). But most are being made to coddle them. They get in power, they start using sexual politics for recruiting, advancement, and pretty soon a straight man is really not welcome there.

Well, let them have it, I guess. What can I do? I can’t stop this insanity.


91 posted on 01/28/2013 3:30:43 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Solson

There is an alternative - Boys’ Brigade. My sons (all former scouts, one eagle) - are too old for it now. But any grandsons etc. I’ll recommend to that, not BSA.

Unless BSA somehow holds fast. I guess we can still hope and pray so.


92 posted on 01/28/2013 3:32:19 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: ConorMacNessa; 17th Miss Regt; 1riot1ranger; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 3catsanadog; 50sDad; Abby4116; ..

If adopted by the organization’s board of directors, I will quit as an adult volunteer and I will forbid my Grandson from ever Joining.


93 posted on 01/28/2013 3:34:34 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ConorMacNessa; 17th Miss Regt; 1riot1ranger; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 3catsanadog; 50sDad; Abby4116; ..

If adopted by the organization’s board of directors, I will quit as an adult volunteer and I will forbid my Grandson from ever Joining.


94 posted on 01/28/2013 3:34:53 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: G Larry

BSA now = Buggering Scouts of America???


95 posted on 01/28/2013 3:35:28 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: ConorMacNessa; 17th Miss Regt; 1riot1ranger; 2001convSVT; 2banana; 3catsanadog; 50sDad; Abby4116; ..

If adopted by the organization’s board of directors, I will quit as an adult volunteer and I will forbid my Grandson from ever Joining.


96 posted on 01/28/2013 3:36:06 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Ron C.

I have a better idea. Tell them to join the Girl Scouts!


97 posted on 01/28/2013 3:36:52 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: ryan71
If they do this [the BSA will] be finished, gone in 10 years.

Or, to paraphrase the big O, fundamentally transformed in 10 years. I am sure that NAMBLA will have a new home.

98 posted on 01/28/2013 3:38:05 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: Oldexpat

...............I wonder who will accept the liability of putting a queer older boy in a tent with some tenderfoots.....

Not tenderfoots, but tenderbutts!

I wonder what the merit badge insignia will look like for passing the tenderbutt tests???


99 posted on 01/28/2013 3:41:06 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Ron C.

If they do that, they will no longer receive many boys under their tutelage. Why send your son to get ‘scouted’?

But maybe that’s the point. Scouting will be replaced with Strength Through Joy and Obama Youth, a government-approved youth group.


100 posted on 01/28/2013 3:41:40 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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