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Navy's ship likely to remain stuck for a couple more weeks
Stars and Stripes ^ | 24 Jan 13 | Matthew M. Burke

Posted on 01/27/2013 3:14:51 PM PST by GATOR NAVY

SASEBO NAVAL BASE, Japan — The Navy minesweeper USS Guardian — stuck on a protected reef off the coast of the Philippines for a week — will most likely stay there up to two more weeks, Navy officials said Thursday.

Rear Adm. Tom Carney, Joint Group Unit Guardian commander, said two contracted heavy-lift ships from Singapore are scheduled to arrive next Wednesday or Thursday at the site near Palawan Island to begin removing the stranded ship. The work ultimately depends on conditions at sea and efforts to stabilize the vessel and lighten its load.

During a news conference with Philippine military representatives in Palawan, Carney acknowledged that the 224-foot Guardian has moved significantly in the surf on Tubbataha Reef, a World Heritage Site; had been badly damaged with several breaches in the hull, had taken on a “significant” amount of water and now lay 20-30 yards from the edge of the reef with a 10-degree list.

“[The Guardian] will have to be lifted off onto another ship or barge to leave the area,” Carney said. “Right now, the ship could not maneuver on its own and is not operational… The ship is too badly damaged [to be towed] unfortunately.”

The comments came a day after Navy officials announced a Military Sealift Command salvage ship, the USNS Salvor, and a Malaysian tug, Vos Apollo, were also on their way to aid the vessel.

The Vos Appollo began rigging lines to defuel the vessel Wednesday but was not able to due to sea conditions, Philippine military representatives told the news conference. The Salvor is scheduled to arrive Thursday evening with divers and salvage equipment. They will make repairs and work to stabilize the ship, Carney said.

For the past two days, Navy and contracted salvage divers have been fighting rough seas to assess the water inside the Guardian and damage, plug some of the holes, secure items onboard so they don’t go over the side, and ready items to be removed to lighten the ship’s weight, Carney said. He hoped they would be able to start pumping out the 15,000 gallons of fuel Thursday.

Once the lift ships from Singapore arrive, some of the heavy items will be off-loaded while Navy architects assess how much water is inside and devise a plan to get lift equipment under the ship. The Guardian will be lifted by crane and placed on a ship or barge.

Carney said it was a “complex” salavage operation and could take as long as two weeks.

“I want to express my deepest regret for the circumstances we are in right now,” Carney said. “We are absolutely committed to removing the ship from the reef as soon as possible. That is the focus of all of our efforts.”

No one was injured when the Avenger-class mine countermeasure ship ran aground around 2:25 a.m. on Jan. 17 while transiting the Sulu Sea after a port visit in Subic Bay.

The Guardian’s crew of 79 was removed the next day as a safety precaution. The crew and officers are being interviewed and charts studied as the investigation into the incident continues, Carney said.

Navy officials have indicated faulty digital navigation charts may have led to the grounding. Carney said conditions, visibility and other navigational aids were also being looked at.

In the meantime, environmental concerns are rising the longer the ship stays on the reef.

“If the weather deteriorates, we can expect more damage,” Park administrator Angelique Songco said. “Another week of this? Unfortunately, yes… It is really sad.”

burkem@pstripes.osd.mil


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: grounding; philippines; usnavy; ussguardian

I believe I read in an earlier article that the ship grounded at high water, always the worst scenario. Additionally, as the photo shows, while she was initially perpendicular to the reef with only the forward half grounded, she is now parallel and fully grounded along the entire length of the ship. I wonder how the wood and fiberglass hull is going to hold up to another couple of weeks on the reef.

1 posted on 01/27/2013 3:14:57 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY

It’ll buff right out.


2 posted on 01/27/2013 3:18:06 PM PST by 1rudeboy (Sorry, had to say it.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I submit the ship be renamed as The USS Obama Economy.

It would at least make sense.


3 posted on 01/27/2013 3:24:10 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle
"I submit the ship be renamed as The USS Obama Economy."

And we've contracted for two civilian ships to come out from Singapore to lift and transport her. Maybe someone with more US Navy knowledge can comment if this is standard practice or a product of not having the military capability any more?

4 posted on 01/27/2013 3:40:19 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29
Maybe someone with more US Navy knowledge can comment if this is standard practice or a product of not having the military capability any more?

The USS Roberts was severely damaged by a mine in the Persian Gulf in 1988, the absolute peak of the Reagan Navy, an we had to contract for a Dutch lift ship to carry her home.

So it's standard practice. USN doesn't keep its own lift ships around because we don't need them very often.

5 posted on 01/27/2013 3:53:29 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: GATOR NAVY

Well I am guessing there is a Captain that lost his Navy drivers license for good!


6 posted on 01/27/2013 4:17:56 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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7 posted on 01/27/2013 4:35:54 PM PST by RedMDer (HEY LIBS! GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS AVAILABLE NOW. I DARE YA!)
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To: GATOR NAVY

I like the crocodile tears of the Philippine officials. The longer the ship stays there, the greater the “environmental damage” it will cause and the greater the fines, which the USG will pay with an apology. If they had their way, that ship wouldn’t move for years.


8 posted on 01/27/2013 4:40:43 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
Navy officials have indicated faulty digital navigation charts may have led to the grounding.
The captain should have known better than to trust those GPS driving directions. Recalculating.....
9 posted on 01/27/2013 4:48:33 PM PST by Bob
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To: GATOR NAVY

It’s pretty impressive reading about how they plan to recover this ship, despite the sea pushing it towards the center of the reef and wrecking the hull. I imagine that for most of human history, up until maybe a century ago, this ship would have been doomed to become part of that reef.


10 posted on 01/27/2013 4:49:04 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: 1rudeboy

Looks like a job for Earl Schieb.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 4:54:03 PM PST by chooseascreennamepat (Have you thought about going vegan, Karl?)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Actually, thinking about this has reminded me of the story of Captain Streeter, a Great Lakes steamboat captain who ran his ship aground on a sandbar near Chicago in the 1800s. He couldn’t do anything about it at that time, so he decided to leave the ship there and used it to conduct business that was illegal in the Chicago city limits, like gambling and serving liquor on Sundays.

Eventually, he got people to dump the debris from the Chicago fire on his sandbar and backfilled the lake all the way to the shore, creating the neighborhood called Streeterville.


12 posted on 01/27/2013 4:55:33 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: GATOR NAVY

“Rear Adm. Tom Carney, Joint Group Unit Guardian commander, said two contracted heavy-lift ships from Singapore are scheduled to arrive next Wednesday or Thursday at the site near Palawan Island to begin removing the stranded ship.”

Does the US navy have the capacity to do this type of thing instead of contracting it out?


13 posted on 01/27/2013 5:09:28 PM PST by Rebelbase ( .223, .224, whatever it takes....)
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To: Boogieman

That’s making lemonade out of lemons.


14 posted on 01/27/2013 5:24:47 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Mad Dawgg
Well I am guessing there is a Captain that lost his Navy drivers license for good!

Nope. He's just announced that he's a homosexual. ;)

< /s >

15 posted on 01/27/2013 5:33:12 PM PST by Does so (Progressives Don't Know the Meaning of INFRINGED...)
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To: Does so

hahahah good one!


16 posted on 01/27/2013 5:34:29 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Does so
The USN could replace half the crew with women and the boat could rock off the reef. s\That would be the pc way to do it.
17 posted on 01/27/2013 5:38:57 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Rebelbase
No, as pointed out by a poster above, the Navy has never had heavy lift capability. Keep in mind the heavy lift is not to get to the ship off the reef-the Navy can do that. It is to transport it afterwards as it is not expected to be tow-worthy due to hull damage. Both Samuel B. Roberts and Cole were transported by contracted heavy lift after they were damaged.


18 posted on 01/27/2013 5:39:34 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Rebelbase

No it’s normal ops to contract this sort of thing out.


19 posted on 01/27/2013 5:49:53 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Rebelbase

No it’s normal ops to contract this sort of thing out.


20 posted on 01/27/2013 5:50:11 PM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Are these the same reefs the locals dynamite when they fish..


21 posted on 01/27/2013 6:10:15 PM PST by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Advertise it as an adventure cruise with a Midnight Chocoholic Buffet and I bet you get 2,000 people to push it off the reef. You could even charge them $2,500 a piece for the trip. Put a zip line on it, and the Australians would pay even more.


22 posted on 01/27/2013 7:07:15 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: GATOR NAVY

If memory serves, the lift ship that brought the Cole back to home port was Norwegian. I guess the U.S. Navy prefers to farm out that retrieval work. As the navy inevitably becomes more and more screwed up and *morally corrupt, there will probably be lottsa’ towing jobs for other enterprising navies to cash in on.

*Based upon The Holy Bible’s view of homosexualality.


23 posted on 01/27/2013 7:33:29 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: GATOR NAVY
stuck on a protected reef

I'd have to FIRE that security company!

24 posted on 02/01/2013 4:37:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GATOR NAVY

How they gonna SLIDE that thing UNDER the ship?


25 posted on 02/01/2013 4:39:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tucker39
*Based upon The Holy Bible’s view of homosexualality.

Some folks do not know exactly where to look: I'll help...



Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

26 posted on 02/01/2013 4:41:35 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Under Obama, the Navy is turning into the Keystone Cops who are now delivering Pizza for Peace.


27 posted on 02/01/2013 4:43:52 AM PST by dforest
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To: Elsie

“How they gonna SLIDE that thing UNDER the ship?”

They almost certainly will not. My bet is that they will lighten the minesweeper until it floats. (Add pumps to ensure water goes out faster than it comes in.) and then tow it off the reef. THEN they put it on the lift ship.

It is also likely they are waiting until there is a lift ship to put it on before refloating it. That bit about pumping water out faster than it flows in is simple, but not easy. Or it might simply take time to lighten the Guardian and make the patches they need to make before attempting to refloat the ship.

Nor it is unusual for the navy to hire lift ship. Having their own lift ship would require a crew that could otherwise be assigned to a warship. A navy lift ship would sit around idle most of the time unless contracted to civilian work. In which case, the ship would be primarily used for commerical, not naval, activities, and we know what it is like when the government attempts to run a commercial business.

Historically, train operations and logistics (both naval and military) were contracted out to civilians. It was only during the age of conscription (call it 1870-1970) that those activities were run by naval and military personnel. In an era of professional naval and military it makes more sense to ship that kind of stuff back to civilians.


28 posted on 02/01/2013 4:54:34 AM PST by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: Elsie

Thanks. You presented an air-tight case.
There are 2 groups these days who are the darlings of many in positions of power, from Dear Leader on down, and the totally debauched media, movie & TV entertainment crowd.

Those two “darling” groups are homos of both (or is it all 3?) genders, and the abortion crowd. But Judgement Day is not far off!

An Old Testament character, a queen, Jezebel, comes to mind. In Revelation Chapter 2 God says that He gave her time and opportunity to repent, but she refused. The homos, abortionists, and ALL unsaved, for that matter, are right now being given time and opportunity to repent and surrender to Christ. Most of them are refusing. But some day soon this is all going to come to a screeching halt, and it will be FOREVER TOO LATE!


29 posted on 02/01/2013 7:00:12 PM PST by Tucker39
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