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Brazil nightclub fire likely killed more than 200: police
Reuters ^ | Jan 27, 2013

Posted on 01/27/2013 3:57:57 AM PST by nuconvert

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Major Gerson da Rosa Ferreira, overseeing rescue efforts at the scene for the military police, told reporters that 159 bodies had already been identified and removed from the nightclub in the southern city of Santa Maria.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brazil; fire; killed; nightclub; santamaria

1 posted on 01/27/2013 3:58:04 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

tragic, prayers for those lost. Need to regulate fire and matches!!


2 posted on 01/27/2013 4:37:44 AM PST by muskah
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To: nuconvert

Bands do not need pyrotechnics. That’s BS

This isn’t the first time a band has set off a fire where many people died. More than likely the exit doors were locked too.


3 posted on 01/27/2013 4:41:23 AM PST by Venturer
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To: nuconvert

In May of 1977, I babysat for my next door neighbors so they could go to the makeshift morgue to look for their relatives after the Beverly Hills Supper Club burned. I believe the death toll was 165.

The club was in northern Kentucky.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 4:48:51 AM PST by mom4melody
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To: muskah

Reminds me of the Station nightclub fire in W. Warwick RI around ‘02 or so; 400 were jammed into the place and 100 died including one band member, as well as a 19 yr old college student DJ (Nichols Coll.) etc. I drove by the site once and noticed how small the plot of land was and thought, the building itself had to have been very tiny and they jammed
400 in.

And most headed out the way they came in, not knowing about other exits or maybe thinking it was the safest one to use.
Many of the victims were jammed near that main entrance.

The Dederian Bros. owned the place IIRC and Jeff was a reporter for Ch 12 Providence. A nightclub fire killed some patrons in Chicago a week or so before and he thought it would be a great time to do a segment about safety in nightclubs and what better place than his own (plug plug plug). So a Ch 12 newsteam was there and filmed it. (As did
at least one person with a camcorder or something who left via the back door just behind the band, and provided footage of the inferno—or maybe it was a Ch 12 cameraman, don’t know.)


5 posted on 01/27/2013 5:06:02 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: nuconvert

Wikipedia:

The Cocoanut Grove was Boston’s premier nightclub during the post-Prohibition 1930s and 1940s. On November 28, 1942, this club was the scene of the deadliest nightclub fire in US history, killing 492 people (which was 32 more than the building’s authorized capacity) and injuring hundreds more. It was also the second-worst single-building fire in American history; only the 1903 Iroquois Theatre fire in Chicago had a higher death toll, of 602.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 5:16:22 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: raccoonradio; All

When will they ever learn, see below (also reminiscent of Cocoanut Grove in Boston; some exits in back may have been blocked by club owner who didn’t want people to leave without paying)

>>Reports say there was only one exit and panic spread as people tried to get out. Many victims reportedly died from inhaling toxic fumes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21220308

It did have the capacity to hold such a crowd:

>>A reporter at the scene told local radio that the nightclub had a capacity for up to 2,000 people and was believed to be full on a Saturday night.

...but only one exit?


7 posted on 01/27/2013 5:19:19 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio

(the part about sim. to Cocoanut Grove refers to “only one exit”; the bit about “club owner had back exits locked” was Cocoanut Grove. Not sure about situation in Brazil. The Station fire had people panicking and using the same exit, mostly. Video of the Station fire shows how fast it spread but I think I read somewhere that they had about 2.5 to 3 minutes to get out of there, most likely via multiple exits—we’re talking 400 patrons though, but maybe after the first minute or so there was a big jam of panicked concertgoers and they got trampled a la the Who’s Cincy show...)


8 posted on 01/27/2013 5:23:40 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Venturer

According to articles, there was only one exit door....firemen had to break thru a wall to allow people out.


9 posted on 01/27/2013 5:46:39 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

The fire codes in many foreign countries are not so good. Indeed they were so good hee in America until after the Triangle Shirtwaist fire and the Cocoanut Grove fires.

Even so pyrotechnics should not be allowed with bands.
What we have is amateurs playing with fire in closed places.
A sure fire menu for disaster.


10 posted on 01/27/2013 6:11:36 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

It’s exactly what happened in the Rhode Island nightclub fire...the fireworks or pyrotechnics caught the ceiling insulation on fire


11 posted on 01/27/2013 6:25:01 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
Prayers for the victims and their families.

It's getting close to carnaval and the parties are ramping up big time right now. Let's hope they can step back and re-evaluate safety for the bigger parties that are about to take place everywhere at once.

12 posted on 01/27/2013 6:57:58 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: nuconvert

Dreadful. RIP.


13 posted on 01/27/2013 7:32:14 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Venturer
Bands do not need pyrotechnics. That’s BS.

They do if they lack musical talent.

14 posted on 01/27/2013 7:42:05 AM PST by OldPossum
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Update: AP now reporting at least 245 people dead and at least 200 injured


15 posted on 01/27/2013 8:05:36 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: OldPossum

Your point is well taken.


16 posted on 01/27/2013 8:07:38 AM PST by Venturer
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To: mom4melody

I remember reading about it. It was awful.


17 posted on 01/27/2013 8:08:23 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: nuconvert

Then there was the Ringling Bros. fire of 1944. http://circusfireof44.blogspot.com/


18 posted on 01/27/2013 8:10:17 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: mom4melody
In May of 1977, I babysat for my next door neighbors so they could go to the makeshift morgue to look for their relatives after the Beverly Hills Supper Club burned. I believe the death toll was 165. The club was in northern Kentucky.

I remember when that happened. Singer John Davidson, who was vey popular at that time, was scheduled to perform at the club that night. He helped evacuate a number of the patrons from the club. Davidson refused to do any interviews afterwards because he did not want it to look like he was seeking publicity from this tragedy. He did perform at a benefit for the victims a few months later.

19 posted on 01/27/2013 8:22:17 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Revolting cat!

Over 200 Brazilian people killed last weekend. “What difference does it make?” (Sec. of Hate Hillary Clinton)


20 posted on 01/27/2013 8:44:11 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Caipirabob

Carnaval?...just wait until the World Cup. It’s going to be a total disaster. Country, stadiums, won’t be ready...


21 posted on 01/27/2013 8:47:08 AM PST by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: SkyDancer

Yes, that was a tragic fire, too.


22 posted on 01/27/2013 8:58:09 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

High time to register and ban ‘assault fires’!

When will the insanity of allowing ‘assault fires’ end?

We get get ‘assault fires’ off the streets!

Enough is enough!

It’s for the children (pic of Obaba surrounded by cute kids with dum-dum bullets, assault machine gun armed DHS thugs in the background.


23 posted on 01/27/2013 9:50:46 AM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: ken5050
Carnaval?...just wait until the World Cup. It’s going to be a total disaster. Country, stadiums, won’t be ready...

They also have the next Summer Olympics.

24 posted on 01/27/2013 11:05:52 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: nuconvert

darn, and just when they were all getting ready for church too


25 posted on 01/27/2013 12:50:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: muskah

Electric wiring, too. The rights of the few cannot come before the safety of the many. Diane Feinstein said so. The founding fathers agree with her. She said so, so it must be true./sarc


26 posted on 01/27/2013 2:25:17 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: raccoonradio
The Coconut Grove fire was as deadly as it was because of the design of the buildings at the time. Exit doors on structures at that time had no codes, and the doors at the Grove opened 'in' instead of 'out'.

People were supposedly stacked up at the doors because once the doors were pinned shut with all of the people pushing to get out, the doors could not be pulled opened.

Mass State Law (not sure if it has been done by the Feds) building codes now state that all buildings such as these need to have all exit doors opening out.

27 posted on 01/27/2013 2:42:07 PM PST by Fedupwithit (You gave him what he wanted. I gave him what he needed.)
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To: raccoonradio

If you hunt around, you’ll find a live FR thread reporting that fire. Thread was posted by someone who lived down the street, as I recall. (Freepers are everywhere!)


28 posted on 01/27/2013 4:07:26 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

Yes, thanks...
and agreed with prev. post re Cocoanut Grove which did result in some fire safety changes.


29 posted on 01/27/2013 7:15:29 PM PST by raccoonradio
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