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Utah Biz Owner Fires Employees Because They Supported Obama
Reagan Coalition ^ | 1-23-13

Posted on 01/25/2013 7:21:34 PM PST by ReformationFan

01/23/13

From HuffPo:

Dead weight? A business owner in Utah has become the latest employer to blame President Obama's health care reform bill for layoffs and has doubled down on his public disdain for the current administration by admitting he singled out Obama supporters.

Terry Lee, owner of Cedar City-based Terry Lee Forensics, told the Salt Lake Tribune that he was so impressed by a Vernal, Utah, smoothie bar's policy of asking liberal patrons to pay more, that he, too, took action to recoup losses he said were incurred by Obamacare.

George Burnett, owner of I Love Drilling Smoothie & Juice Bar, said recently he is asking liberal customers to pay an extra dollar for their beverages.

Lee posted a commiserating comment on The Tribune's smoothie bar story this week:

Love it. We had to let two employees go to cover new Obongocare [sic] costs and increased taxes. Found two Obongo supporters and gave them the news yesterday. They wanted the idiot in the Whitehouse [sic], they reap the benefits.

Can you hire/fire based on political views?

No state or federal laws would protect employees against this sort of dismissal — unless they work for the government. [Source]

Gawker called the business owner "racist" though there is no proof of that.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: employees; fired; obama; terrylee; utah
Interesting idea. Both Terry Lee and some Obama voters get something they want out of it: the latter get Obama while the former gets to give them more time to love Obama. ;)
1 posted on 01/25/2013 7:21:39 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan
No, this is racist.


2 posted on 01/25/2013 7:24:46 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: ReformationFan
George Burnett, owner of I Love Drilling Smoothie & Juice Bar, said recently he is asking liberal customers to pay an extra dollar for their beverages.

For years the Massachusetts state tax return has had a line that allows you to pay at a rate higher than that required by law.IOW,you're given a chance to "donate" money to the Commonwealth.Out of 6 million residents something like 250 tax returns each year have that box checked.

3 posted on 01/25/2013 7:27:24 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: ReformationFan

I’ll drink to that!!!!


4 posted on 01/25/2013 7:28:48 PM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“.Out of 6 million residents something like 250 tax returns each year have that box checked. “

What? In a liberal state like MA I would think at least 1/2 would be checked.

God,the hypocrisy.

.


5 posted on 01/25/2013 7:30:11 PM PST by Mears
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To: ReformationFan

There is nothing that prevents a company firing somebody based on a choice that person makes. These losers deserve what they got.


6 posted on 01/25/2013 7:31:11 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: ReformationFan

tit for tat....during the bailout of the auto industry ayatollah obama has his henchmen shut down profitable GM and Chrysler dealerships because the owners donated to McCain/Palin while the eternal unprofitable dealerships, the ones who donated to the soon to be imperial presidents candidacy, were saved and kept solvent...

don’t remeber the press screaming about that....

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/2009/05/is-obama-shutting-down-chrysler-dealers-who-donated-to-his-rivals.html


7 posted on 01/25/2013 7:31:14 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: ReformationFan

Id do the same..Obama lovers have put us down a Communist road..whatever happens to this country THEY are to blame..its not that hard to spot an Obama voter..they usually have that “DUH” look on their face followed by their hands out


8 posted on 01/25/2013 7:36:30 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Viennacon

“There is nothing that prevents a company firing somebody based on a choice that person makes. These losers deserve what they got.”

***

Maybe, maybe not. If the employer could prove that the employee wasn’t doing his or her job or violated language in an employment contract (such as morals clauses) or was insubordinate — yes. But firing solely because of who the employee voted for probably won’t fly in a court of law.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 7:45:15 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: rawcatslyentist

Yep.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 7:46:39 PM PST by Girlene
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To: ReformationFan

.... We just are up front and fair as all democratic socialist liberals are lazy liars, unreliable union rule waving fanaticism forefront every day, every minute that I personally just don’t have time for.

Your hired based on an interview and resume and a background check. When I find out your a liberal socialist POS, then our contract is null and void as you lied on your interview, misrepresented your work ethic if any and I am by no means obligated to keep you on the payroll.

Vote for Polidiots like Obama, Vote Socialist Agendas to destroy American traditions, values, liberty and freedom........ your fired.

Obama wants to be tough on corporations, small business etc .... then quality people, loyal, skilled workforce with a solid work ethic are mandatory. Just maintaining a simple set of basic rules of ....

Be on time, honor as possible breaks, lunch etc ..
Be clean and dress appropriately
Be polite, professional,helpful to customers and other employees
Do the work assigned in a timely and correct manner
Keep supervision informed of problems be they production or safety or personal that affect your ability to work.

Rats can’t / won’t do the basics....... fire em !

My opinion...


11 posted on 01/25/2013 7:47:27 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: ReformationFan

“Obongocare”

That’s about what it is worth being called.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 7:48:13 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: fatnotlazy

Look at it like this. If an employee broke something, and it cost my business money, I would be well within my rights to fire him. I should be able to apply the same principle if my employee empowers a politician who costs my business money. No sympathy for liberals.


13 posted on 01/25/2013 7:51:58 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: rawcatslyentist

You took that animation to a stratospheric level! LOL!


14 posted on 01/25/2013 7:59:21 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: ReformationFan
Bttt.

5.56mm

15 posted on 01/25/2013 8:01:57 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: fatnotlazy

“But firing solely because of who the employee voted for probably won’t fly in a court of law.”

Depends on the state. In Idaho anyway, and I’d bet Utah is the same, they can let you go for any reason pretty much.


16 posted on 01/25/2013 8:04:24 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: fatnotlazy
But firing solely because of who the employee voted for probably won’t fly in a court of law.

That depends. If Utah is an "at will" state, the employer can fire any employee at any time, for any reason other than race, creed, gender or sexual preference which are protected by Federal Law.

There is no protection in Federal law for political affiliation, and it's unlikely that protection exists in any State (although I'm not an employment lawyer in all 50 states.)

So I say "fire away!" Give all the Obama supporters what they wanted --- send them off to Obama to take care of them "from his stash."

17 posted on 01/25/2013 8:07:01 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: babygene

Or for no reason at all in many states. It is surprising to people when they learn that.


18 posted on 01/25/2013 8:07:09 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ReformationFan

Spring is my ‘Big Hiring Season’ and...I’m not hiring! Yes, I have a few LibTards on board, but they’re coming around to MY way of thinking. Keeping your JOB IS your ‘raise’ this season, and they’re coming to understand that, idiots that they are. *Rolleyes*

I’m only hiring low-end cashiers and stock boys. Anyone that’s already on board will reap the benefits of my largess in extended hours, though no pay upgrades. We (as a ‘collective’) *SMIRK* cannot AFFORD it! It’s For The Collective Good, don’t ya know? ;)

My shop, my rules. Life. Is. Good. :)


19 posted on 01/25/2013 8:19:44 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: fatnotlazy

Unless it is an at will state then you can be fired for any reason at any time.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 8:25:02 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good for you Diana. I wish you every success.

What happened in WI last year was the only bright spot in a year of reversals.

I hope it is a harbinger of good things to come if we just persevere.


21 posted on 01/25/2013 8:32:23 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: F15Eagle

“Or for no reason at all in many states.”

That’s true... There are some federal regs you have to steer clear of when it comes to protected groups, but any good lawyer can get around that. If the person happens to be in a protected group you would probably have to state a reason that was not because he or she was in that group.


22 posted on 01/25/2013 8:44:50 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Gay State Conservative

John Kerry chose the LOWER TAX RATE before he ran for President.

As one of the Ruling Class, Kerry also had a Fire Hydrant moved from the street in front of his House so he could park his Evil SUV there.

Did I mention he served in Vietnam?


23 posted on 01/25/2013 8:48:51 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (I only Fear a Government that doesn't Fear me.)
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To: SandRat

or for no reason. It is better not to give a reason, then there is nothing to come back at you with.


24 posted on 01/25/2013 9:02:15 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The Golden Rule .... (s)he who has the gold makes the rules. :-)


25 posted on 01/25/2013 9:05:54 PM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: fatnotlazy
But firing solely because of who the employee voted for probably won’t fly in a court of law.

Some states have laws which allow employers to fire employees without cause, "at will"; without stating a reason. You're gone, goodbye. I would think that the (ex) employee would have to conclusively prove in a legal sense that the employer fired him for that reason only. Not necessarily an easy task.

26 posted on 01/25/2013 9:30:42 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: fatnotlazy

Yep...all of the above are correct...live in an ‘at will’ state, your boss can fire you for any reason, at any time.


27 posted on 01/25/2013 10:02:06 PM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Viennacon

We fired our Odumbo supporters 1 day after the election and we work here in blue city Hollywood, CA.

Cleaned house but we left 1 alone...so just in case we get sued, we have him as our evidence.


28 posted on 01/25/2013 10:31:11 PM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: fatnotlazy

He can’t afford all his employees due to increased regulation and taxes. He has to reduce his payroll.

So in short, somebodies going to lose their job.

That is all that is required.

He’s simply picking those who give him the least benefit.

Case closed.


29 posted on 01/25/2013 10:37:21 PM PST by DB
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To: Squantos

Amen.


30 posted on 01/25/2013 10:48:42 PM PST by Mrs.Nooseman (Proudly supporting our Troops and Allies!!!!)
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To: ReformationFan
Will, I've stopped even opening a door for an Obama supporter. If their behind me I walk through and let the door go. I won't eat where I see his supporters. I won't watch TV programs or movies with his supporters. There's a special place in h&!! for Oprah and all the rest of them.
31 posted on 01/25/2013 10:55:29 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: ReformationFan; Viennacon
I thought your vote would be secret, known only to you. This business owner is only firing blabbermouths, right?

If they can't keep their mouths shut, the might not be doing your business any good.

Although I thought I could guess, during my Dad and Mom's lives, I never knew what their votes were, and neither probably knew what the other's was, IIRC.

32 posted on 01/25/2013 11:17:19 PM PST by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society -- but dangerous for the fool --)
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To: imardmd1
I thought your vote would be secret, known only to you. This business owner is only firing blabbermouths, right?

There are some places of employment where BO supporters make their presence loudly known through BO paraphernalia posted in their work areas or on their car bumpers.

33 posted on 01/25/2013 11:22:44 PM PST by thecodont
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To: ReformationFan

I decided on Nov 7 that I will never knowingly give money to an Obama supporter. I fired my daughters piano teacher, my hair cutter and a handyman. I no longer go to an old favorite barbecue or pizza place because of my findings.

They voted to raise my taxes, destroy my healthcare and dim the light for my kids future. Why give them more?


34 posted on 01/26/2013 2:08:11 AM PST by albie
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To: ReformationFan

Gawker called the business owner “racist” though there is no proof of that.....Don’t need no proof. You are racist ‘cause they say so.


35 posted on 01/26/2013 2:25:52 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: fatnotlazy
"Maybe, maybe not. If the employer could prove that the employee wasn’t doing his or her job or violated language in an employment contract (such as morals clauses) or was insubordinate — yes. But firing solely because of who the employee voted for probably won’t fly in a court of law."

90% of employees don't have an employment contract. In most states they are merely employees at will and can be fired for any or no reason so long as the employer isn't discriminating against a prohibited class. Being a liberal Obama voter isn't a prohibited class. Yet.

36 posted on 01/26/2013 2:30:42 AM PST by circlecity
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To: ReformationFan

37 posted on 01/26/2013 2:35:39 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: ReformationFan

A business owner can fire employees based on their political views...and they should do it before El Bozo changes the law by another of his executive decrees.


38 posted on 01/26/2013 4:35:36 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: max americana

“we left 1 alone...so just in case we get sued, we have him as our evidence.”

Good for you. Excellent decision!

Kind of in a similar vein to this thread, we’re re-writing our wills and living trust and “firing” beneficiaries who voted for Hussein.


39 posted on 01/26/2013 4:47:06 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: ReformationFan
Utah Biz Owner Fires Employees Because They Supported Obama

They'd better hope that FedGuv is hiring because the private industry isn't going to be sympathetic.

"So tell us why you were left go from your last job?"

"Oh, those tea bagger idiots! They fired me because I voted for obama and they blamed me for costing them more money to do business!"

"I see. Thank you. We'll contact you when we have a decision."

"It's only been two minutes...Do you know w*"

"This interview is over and we will contact you shortly with a decision..."

40 posted on 01/26/2013 5:00:35 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: lightman; rawcatslyentist

!


41 posted on 01/26/2013 6:13:08 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: lightman; rawcatslyentist

You took that animation to a stratospheric level! LOL!
agree, a great graphic ...
..of course; but, "Turn-ON" any "Modern Music Radio
/ MTV"station in many Cities..listen to that...*/cringing*

42 posted on 01/26/2013 6:50:34 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: imardmd1

“I thought your vote would be secret, known only to you. This business owner is only firing blabbermouths, right?
If they can’t keep their mouths shut, the might not be doing your business any good.”

Indeed. I once had liberal bosses and I never discussed politics in any way, form or shape around them. I was there for the paycheck I needed and nothing else.

“Although I thought I could guess, during my Dad and Mom’s lives, I never knew what their votes were, and neither probably knew what the other’s was, IIRC.”

A different time period. Earlier generations were taught to value having a secret vote. Today’s narcissic “look at me!” generation are taught to post every thought and opinion they have on Facebook or something similar. After all, they find themselves and their views fascinating, why shouldn’t everyone else? ;)

Sidenote: I remember a news story from the last election where some liberal Obama teacher was asking her students who they would vote for if they could. One student said his parents voted for McCain and she berated him for it. I thought what business is it of hers to intrude like that?


43 posted on 01/26/2013 7:02:38 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: fatnotlazy
But firing solely because of who the employee voted for probably won’t fly in a court of law.

Wrong. In employment at will states an employee can be fired at any time for any reason without notice, unless (i) due to religious, sex, age, race or other protected class, or (ii) in violation of an employment contract. Political persuasion is not a protected class. Further, the first amendment protection of free speech only applies to government action. In the private sector there is no such thing as free speech.

44 posted on 01/26/2013 7:32:00 AM PST by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

The one we left behind is the most useless of the entire production company. He’s our token lib and doesn’t affect our overall operations.


45 posted on 01/26/2013 10:15:19 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

thanks for the bright spot in the darkness!


46 posted on 01/26/2013 11:38:15 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi... the TRAVESTY continues)
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To: cyn

:)


47 posted on 01/26/2013 12:25:00 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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