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Banned: semi-auto hunting rifles over 22cal that hold over 10 rounds, some home defense shotguns
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Posted on 01/25/2013 3:15:32 PM PST by C0nservativeJunkie

You'll notice that it bans all semi-auto shotguns that have a pistol grip (AKA every home defense shotgun). You'll also notice they're going after some semi-auto pistols just for how they look.

Below you'll find portions of the bill as we pick it apart:

UPDATE 1:

semi-autos over 22 cal that hold more than 10 rounds banned

Update 2:

UPDATE 3:

threaded barrels on pistols now banned

UPDATE 4:

Some shotguns now banned

Severability clause in gun ban



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponban; banglist; feinstein; gunban; guncontrol; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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1 posted on 01/25/2013 3:15:41 PM PST by C0nservativeJunkie
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2 posted on 01/25/2013 3:19:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

This ole girl in Detroit broke at least 2 future laws in defending herself.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2981788/posts

She fired 11 rounds from “her 9”.


3 posted on 01/25/2013 3:21:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie
"assault" weapon??

A knife can be an assault weapon, too. And a hammer, and a car, and a baseball bat

4 posted on 01/25/2013 3:21:53 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


5 posted on 01/25/2013 3:24:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

The Second Amendment is for hunting tyrants.


6 posted on 01/25/2013 3:24:31 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: bunkerhill7
Unconstitutional laws are null and void in my home.
7 posted on 01/25/2013 3:29:27 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: cripplecreek

Imagine going through Detroit unarmed. That’s what the ‘rats want us subjected to while they all hide behind armed guards.

It’s “reparations” and “revenge” after all...


8 posted on 01/25/2013 3:35:56 PM PST by varyouga
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

“There Will Be Blood” (Movie Title)


9 posted on 01/25/2013 3:36:07 PM PST by Renegade
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To: C0nservativeJunkie
FROM THE WEEKLY STANDARD

Not everyone will have to abide by Senator Dianne Feinstein's gun control bill. If the proposed legislation becomes law, government officials and others will be exempt.

okay for me but not for thee. ALL LAW IN THE US SHOULD APPLY TO EVERYBODY OR IT SHOULD NOT BE LAW, PERIOD! How did those in DC get the idea that they are some kind of roalty? Man, does that need to change!

10 posted on 01/25/2013 3:40:36 PM PST by drypowder
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To: varyouga
Rick Ector is in the news around Detroit a lot lately. Yesterday he was promoting allowing teachers to carry at work. I believe he was on another show tonight to talk about women's safety issues.

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Here is his website but I warn you that it locks my computer up.

www.legallyarmedindetroit.com
11 posted on 01/25/2013 3:43:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

I wonder how many people notice that it’s highly likely that much of the money and effort against our Second Amendment is coming from outside our country. See Newtown, Connecticut, and give that another thought.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 3:45:43 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie
Entire text of the bill: http://www.scribd.com/doc/122212105/S-150

What caught my eye were pages 23 to 118, "APPENDIX A – FIREARMS EXEMPTED BY THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN OF 2013"

Listed are lever action guns, side-by-side shotguns, bolt action .22s.

If this so-called assault weapon ban states that it exempts all bolt action, lever action, and pump action rifles/shotguns (page 14 lines 17-20,) then why are they listing specific makes and models of bolt action, lever action and pump action rifles/shotguns that are exempt?

Because they will eventually ban all guns except for that list.

13 posted on 01/25/2013 3:46:08 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

Anyone that complies with this communist dictate is a outright fool. A pretty good armed resistance appears to be forming in NY against that communist governor and his joke for a ban. Nationwide? it would be an all-out war. But hey, WTH, since they’ll now all be illegal anyway, just convert em to full-auto, put silencers on em, cut em short, etc. and go have some fun at the range.


14 posted on 01/25/2013 3:48:38 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

You can’t find 22 ammo anyhow.
B&S in Garland Tx is selling it for $100 per 100 ct.

http://www.bsgunstore.com/

BS indeed!


15 posted on 01/25/2013 3:52:00 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: familyop
I wonder how many people notice that it’s highly likely that much of the money and effort against our Second Amendment is coming from outside our country. See Newtown, Connecticut, and give that another thought.

I wonder how many people realize that Newtown, CT is the home of the National Shooting Sports Foundation?

16 posted on 01/25/2013 3:53:22 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

Don’t worry about it. I’ve got a buddy in Managua that can get us anything we want. If a pregnant Mexican can run the border I’m sure we can. :)


17 posted on 01/25/2013 3:58:41 PM PST by dljordan (Voltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: C0nservativeJunkie
Good luck with trying to enforce that. And to all of the hand wringing panty waists here who would comply with tyrannical decree, I say:

Inside of two months, the AMERICAN people bought up enough guns and ammunition to outfit the entire chinese and indian armies! On top of whatever else is already out there!

If you want to try to confiscate it, come and try to take it. You are out manned and outgunned. And hopefully you will realize that all of your police departments and military bases and infrastructure reside in our backyard. Ignore the Constitution and go up against the home team at your own peril.

18 posted on 01/25/2013 3:59:29 PM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: lgjhn23

Pretty good resistance? Don’t see anything about, got links?


19 posted on 01/25/2013 4:05:41 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

More Obama distractions. Stay focused on Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and all the corrupt TARP, Green Energy, etc. deals.

Obama’s just lost a critical court case on appointments. Now is the time to start cracking his Teflon.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 4:07:56 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: factoryrat

What if they take your kids and then suggest a trade?


21 posted on 01/25/2013 4:18:27 PM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: HomeAtLast

If “they” whomever that is, kidnaps someone’s kids, we do not negotiate with terrorists. “They” don’t even know what they will start if they start doing something like that.


22 posted on 01/25/2013 4:31:02 PM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Quickgun

“They” = government. The entity everyone is expecting to come for the guns, of course. Why get messy? They can just take your assets, or your kids at school. One call to the bank and most people will surrender in 24 hrs.


23 posted on 01/25/2013 4:43:30 PM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: HomeAtLast
“They can just take your assets, or your kids at school. One call to the bank and most people will surrender in 24 hrs.”

No, I think it will be your medical insurance. In Obama’s healthcare bill, it says if you smoke, your insurance company can double the amount you have to pay for that insurance. It gave examples, and a 50 something man would pay over an extra $5,000 a yr. Who can afford that? People stop smoking in order to have insurance.

For guns it could go down like this: Guns are a health hazard and if you have one, your insurance company will charge you double for medical insurance. That means multiple thousands extra a year. Do you give up your guns to afford medical insurance?

Hussein has the authority to write rules/regulations for medical insurance right now and he could do that and get your guns that way. He is the devil incarnate.

24 posted on 01/25/2013 5:26:53 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

Everyone I know has a pump action shotgun for home defense. Semi autos can let you down.


25 posted on 01/25/2013 5:45:46 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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I'll bet revolvers and pump action will sell out as thoroughly as semi-automatics have.

Obama has sold at least 69 million firearms in the terrible four years he has been in power - and I'll bet that number will rise even fasted between now and the end of this phase of subverting the Constitution. That's certainly not enough to balance the damage and evil he has inflicted on our country, but at least one item of good has come from this nightmare.

26 posted on 01/25/2013 5:55:11 PM PST by Pollster1
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.223 is “twenty-two caliber,” isn’t it?


27 posted on 01/25/2013 6:46:13 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

Banned guns here! Be careful! Your eyes might bleed!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2981469/posts?page=44#44


28 posted on 01/25/2013 6:53:40 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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.223 is “twenty-two caliber,” isn’t it?

There was an extremely interesting display of shooting by a female weapons expert on Hannity last week. She has won various awards for her marksmanship. Anyway, she demonstrated the holes in targets, created by firing an AR-15, revolvers and semi-auto pistols, up thru shotgun slugs and shells. The .223 was a tiny hole. The shotgun slug created a huge hole, and a 12 gauge shot shell obliterated the target. She said anti-gun people are needlessly targetting the AR-15 type weapons, but personally she would fear the shotgun more than the others. Every citizen hearing the B.S. from Feinstein and others idiots needs to see a demonstration of how small the caliber actually is.

29 posted on 01/25/2013 7:10:14 PM PST by roadcat
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Everyone I know has a pump action shotgun for home defense. Semi autos can let you down.

So with this bill, I'll only be able to use my shotgun once (and it'll be taken from me). I have a pistol grip and a telescoping stock, easy to adjust between me and my wife for good fit. Makes it illegal, sigh! We're all going to be criminals, because we're not giving them up.

30 posted on 01/25/2013 7:19:05 PM PST by roadcat
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To: roadcat

You have a semi-auto shotgun with “a pistol grip and a telescoping stock, easy to adjust between me and my wife”?

Really?

For home protection, get a Mossberg or an 870.

Problem solved.


31 posted on 01/25/2013 7:36:36 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR: Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Why include a list of exempted bolt action rifles?

I note that the Anschutz 2013 and the CZ 455 bolt action 22LR rifles are not on the list since they are relatively new models. That tells me this list was compiled a number of years ago. I would bet the list was made in 2008 and now dusted off for introduction at the start of Obama's second term.

32 posted on 01/25/2013 7:43:59 PM PST by dmcnash (Back off! I'm a Scientist.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Everyone I know has a pump action shotgun for home defense. Semi autos can let you down.

Guns are tools. Shotguns are good for hunting and home defense. Pistols are good for personal defense. Semi-automatic rifles are good for anti-tyranny.

33 posted on 01/25/2013 7:44:39 PM PST by Starstruck (If I were a criminal I would be for gun control.)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

Wow! I had no idea a .22 isn’t deadly.


34 posted on 01/25/2013 8:14:17 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Semi autos can let you down.

I hear that a lot here but I never had one fail to go off when I pulled the trigger, and don't recall one ever jamming.

Watch this guy shoot a SemiAuto

35 posted on 01/26/2013 1:19:05 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: dmcnash
I would bet the list was made in 2008 and now dusted off for introduction at the start of Obama's second term.

What, you thought she whipped this out in a couple weeks? :)

36 posted on 01/26/2013 1:22:45 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesn’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: lgjhn23
REFUSE, DELAY, OBSTRUCT, SABOTAGE IN ANY WAY YOU CAN, OBOZO'S ATTEMPT TO DENY YOU THE CONSTITUTION, FREEDOM LIBERTY, YOUR RIGHTS! Go underground. obozo is breaking the law, NOT We the People and must be held up for articles of treason. We are the freedom fighters of our day...read up on who they were and what they did, and continue the tradition of fighting for freedom in this country.
37 posted on 01/26/2013 1:35:45 AM PST by itssme
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To: roadcat
Does anyone know the name of the woman? Would love to see a demonstration if she is on youtube. Also, Glenn Beck recently had a husband and wife sharpshooting team on his TV progam, demonstrating some extraordinary gun marksmanship...I heard him talking about them on his radio program one morning. Does anyone know the names of the man and woman? Wonder if they would be on youtube?
38 posted on 01/26/2013 1:43:27 AM PST by itssme
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Yep! 18 1/2 inch Ithaca Model 37 here.


39 posted on 01/26/2013 4:48:38 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

“..Pretty good resistance? Don’t see anything about, got links?...”
Try: “Gun owners resisting NY gun control” in your favorite search engine and then read on down thru the hits.


40 posted on 01/26/2013 6:42:54 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: familyop

That strikes a chord...Recently a couple of these incidents in the US have happened with some government agency just around the corner somewhere coincidentally gaming/training on the exact scenerio that occurs...the same as the London bus bombings...


41 posted on 01/26/2013 8:59:39 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

This stupid bill won’t get through the Senate, much less the House. Its purpose is to distract from the debt limit fight.

Obama’s treasury department is so bent on theft and corruption that they refuse to estimate how much debt will be owed in three months, so a limited debt ceiling hike can not be passed. Rather the House will pass an unlimited debt ceiling hike that runs out ‘by date certain’. That lets the regime run up debts without limit for three months. Then they will refuse to report how much debt there is, and so the debt limit won’t matter.


42 posted on 01/26/2013 9:55:26 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: factoryrat

An olympic shooter turned in his guns in Nazi Germany. That wasn’t enough. He was Jewish, and was picked up, and killed in the concentration camps.

That you once had a gun is enough. You don’t get absolution by turning in your guns. You have the mark of Cain that you were once a person who was self reliant and free. They have you on their list.


43 posted on 01/26/2013 9:59:38 AM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Sacajaweau

-—And don’t ever forget bare hands. Any available Marine can explain that to you-——Semper Fi


44 posted on 01/26/2013 10:57:49 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: C0nservativeJunkie

I’m so glad I stocked up and ‘got mine’ 3 - 4 years ago. Watching this ‘rat race’ with all shelves being picked clean saddens me in a way....but it somewhat encouraging in another. Just hate seeing the prices on everything going into orbit.

I can’t wait until this bullshit fails to pass through Congress, and everyone calms down! (I doubt the pricing on ‘black rifles’ and mags will ever return to the prices they were at a year ago)


45 posted on 01/26/2013 11:29:08 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: cripplecreek

Detroit is coming back. They have hit bottom and are on the way back up.


46 posted on 01/26/2013 12:09:40 PM PST by MarMema
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

It is a Mossberg. A Mossberg 590, with heat shield. The stock was too long for her, so I replaced it with a telescoping stock that has a pistol grip. Easy to adjust to different people. So now it’ll be in violation of the laws, because it has several combined features of a “military” weapon. Despite the fact it fires the same way as shotguns without the “special” features. Damn politicians.


47 posted on 01/26/2013 12:50:57 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Marcella

I agree, they’ll use that approach and it WILL work on all but the hard cases. Taking over insurance is the quickest way to take over. Switch “Liberty” for “Liability” as the operative word in America.
And sadly, I believe people will accept it. Nobody wants to make any sacrifices, though many bloviate about armed resistance (the odds of an opportunity arising being infinitesimally low).
In Revolutionary days, a good percentage of the people prized liberty enough to risk all. Today, tell the average citizen he might have to pay more for mandatory services that used to be optional, and he becomes a quivering mass of jelly, defenseless, impotent, cowardly.


48 posted on 01/26/2013 2:06:22 PM PST by HomeAtLast ( You're either with the Tea Party, or you're with the EBT Party.)
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To: HomeAtLast
“I agree, they’ll use that approach and it WILL work on all but the hard cases. Taking over insurance is the quickest way to take over. Switch “Liberty” for “Liability” as the operative word in America. And sadly, I believe people will accept it.”

Hussein is smart and he knows he can't walk in and get your guns. But, he can make it so you will give them up.

Remember, one of his executive actions is to tell doctors they can ask you if you have a gun at home and if you have children there or older people there, and the doctors are supposed to report that. Then, Hussein knows you have guns and it's dangerous with those children and/or old people there and your medical insurance goes double in payment - or give up the guns.

He has already put in his healthplan to start next year, that if you smoke, your insurance cost will double. He has the power to write insurance regulations and he's got the whole country in his hand.

When I read about the cigarette smoking and already knew doctors were supposed to ask about guns, I knew he would do it this way and get away with it.

49 posted on 01/26/2013 3:23:21 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: itssme

“Jessie Duff, a world champion shooter”. Easy on the eyes, too.

http://www.therightscoop.com/awesome-watch-a-hot-girl-shoot-semi-automatic-rifles-and-pistols-on-hannity/


50 posted on 01/27/2013 12:22:23 AM PST by roadcat
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