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NASA tests vintage Apollo 11 rocket engine for ideas for new US missions
Fox News ^ | Jan 24, 2013 | AP

Posted on 01/24/2013 5:34:29 PM PST by Islander7

A vintage rocket engine built to blast the first U.S. lunar mission into Earth's orbit more than 40 years ago is again rumbling across the Southern landscape.

The engine, known to NASA engineers as No. F-6049, was supposed to help propel Apollo 11 into orbit in 1969, when NASA sent Neil Armstrong and two other astronauts to the moon for the first time.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; apollo; f1; f1b; moonlandings; nasa; prattwhitney; pwr; pyrios; rocket; rocketdyne; saturnv; spaceexploration; wernervonbraun
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To: zot

I thought all of them had been destroyed per Nixon’s order.


41 posted on 01/24/2013 7:39:52 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Lexinom

When you consider that everything else in life has gotten better and more efficient, it just seems out of place to be still using technology that is 60 years old and so inefficient.


42 posted on 01/24/2013 7:46:08 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Me too. I’ve been reading a book by the late David M. Potter: The Impending Crises: 1848-1861. On page 12 (pb edition) he writes of those early Americans: “Pitting their muscle against the elements, these men were independent, agressively individualistic, and fiercely hostile to external controls. Prizing the opportunity to become unequal in personal achievement and hating the inequality of pretention to status, they cherished an unsleeping distrust of public authority and glorified the virtues of simplicity, frugality, liberty and self-reliance.” Alas, that America is gone. I love that “opportunity to become unequal.” This concept is more attuned to reality. Obama is committed to equality of outcome which is as anti-American as you can get. He and the Dems can’t abide the concept laid down by Samuel Johnson: “How small of all that human hearts endure, that part which laws or kings can cause or cure.” Just so. Within limits we are the architects of our own success or failure. But this is no longer the opinion of the majority; hence Obama, the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.


43 posted on 01/24/2013 7:46:55 PM PST by donaldo
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To: Jonty30

This is what is done now. Launch sites tend to be near the equator where rotational speed is greatest (about 1,000 miles per hour at the equator) and launches are toward the east to take advantage of the rotation of the Earth.

L.P.


44 posted on 01/24/2013 7:55:13 PM PST by lagrange point1 (Space is no longer the final frontier)
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To: lagrange point1

At least there has been some progress. :)


45 posted on 01/24/2013 7:56:23 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Islander7
Saturn V Launch Slow Motion (launch pad view)
46 posted on 01/24/2013 7:59:42 PM PST by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: Islander7

When I was a teenager I remember hearing the Saturn V engine tests from my hometown 50 miles from Huntsville. Those things shook the ground good if you were close. I had the good fortune of seeing a shuttle main engine live test firing in Huntsville a few years back. There is no way to adequately describe that experience with words. I was shell shocked when it was over.


47 posted on 01/24/2013 8:08:37 PM PST by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: GreyFriar
I thought all of them had been destroyed per Nixon’s order.

They must have put this one together from various museums.

48 posted on 01/24/2013 8:16:32 PM PST by zot
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To: Jonty30

“I’m just wondering if there’s a way to use Earth’s rotation to help leave orbit, without such large booster rockets?”

They do that now by launching from florida and launching to the east.


49 posted on 01/24/2013 8:27:03 PM PST by staytrue
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To: donaldo

“A marvel of good ol’ American can do.”

It was Werner Von Braun, who was probably an ex Nazi.


50 posted on 01/24/2013 8:28:41 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Nailbiter

bflr


51 posted on 01/24/2013 8:37:32 PM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Islander7

My uncle said the noise from a Saturn V launch was much louder than that of the Shuttle.


52 posted on 01/24/2013 8:43:44 PM PST by fso301
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To: rottndog

Great video rottndog, many thanks. Re: the hold-down clamps at 1:35. Norman Mailer of all people writes of this in his Of A Fire On The Moon, and in prose approaching the sublime:

But for the moment the spaceship does not move. Four giant hold-down arms large as flying buttresses hold to a ring at the base of Saturn v while the thrust of the motors builds up in the nine seconds, reaches a power in thrust equal to the weight of the rocket. Does the rocket weigh six million, four hundred and eighty-four thousand pounds? Now the thrust goes up, the flames pour out, now the thrust is four million, five million, six million pounds, an extra million pounds of thrust each instant as those thousands of gallons of fuel rush every second to the motors, now it balances at six million, four hundred thousand and eighty- four thousand, two hundred and eighty pounds. The bulk of Apollo-Saturn is in balance on the pad. Come, you could now levitate it with a finger, but for the hold-down arms. Now in the next second and the next, the thrust is up to full launch, to seven and a half million pounds, more, more than one million pounds of surplus force is now ready to push upward. And still the rocket is restrained. The hold-down arms, large as butresses will retain the ship for two more seconds before lift-off. The last check-outs race through the automatic sequence and GO comes back, and the hold-down arms - what engineering in those giants! - pull back, and Apollo-Saturn rises inch by inch in those first seconds, pulling tapered pins through dies to slow the instant of the release. Inch by inch, then foot by foot, slowly, story by story, swing-arm by swing-arm, the swing-arms pulling back in the last five seconds, the last two seconds, umbilicals snapping back, slowly Apollo-Saturn climbs up the length of the Mobile Launcher, the flame of apocalypse no more than the sparks of its chariot, and spectators cry, “Go, baby, go.”

Incidentally, those turbines feeding each F-1 are rated at fifty-five thousand horsepower and are as large as a refrigerator. Each could empty a swimming pool of 30,000 gallons of water in less than nine seconds. I just marvel at that rocket and the engineers who designed it.


53 posted on 01/24/2013 9:01:45 PM PST by donaldo
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To: fso301

According to this each F-1 rocket engine had more power than the three main engines of the Shuttle combined!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-1_(rocket_engine)


54 posted on 01/24/2013 9:10:26 PM PST by donaldo
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To: Islander7
"About a dozen F-1 engines remain in Huntsville, home of NASA's main propulsion center

Lucky they were spared the "cash-for-clunkers" fiasco.
55 posted on 01/25/2013 4:19:34 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Lexinom
And lets not forget the "Space Ladder"

Rice University Carbon Nanotube Breakthrough Has Implications for Space Applications

56 posted on 01/25/2013 4:56:59 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Lexinom

Good answer. I saw a video that gave me a better outlook. The Sun is traveling through space at 486,000 MPH. The earth is doing the same thing while rotating around the sun.

So if I was able to fly out into outer space and “stop”, would everything continue to move on without me or would I be sucked up into the system and flow along?


57 posted on 01/25/2013 5:00:46 AM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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To: staytrue
Robert Hutchings Goddard (October 5, 1882-August 10, 1945) was an American physicist and inventor who is known as the father of modern rocketry. In 1907, Goddard proved that a rocket's thrust can propel it in a vacuum. In 1914, Goddard received two U.S. patents: for liquid-fueled rockets and for two- to three-stage rockets that use solid fuel. Goddard's many inventions were the basis upon which modern rocketry is based.

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In 1929, Goddard launched the first scientific payload (a barometer and a camera) aboard a rocket flight.

Meanwhile in Germany, the German Rocket Society was formed in 1927, and the German Army began a rocket program in 1931. In the USA, Goddard received almost no support from the US government, which did not yet understand the importance of rocketry. The German government paid much more attention to Goddard's work than the US government did.

58 posted on 01/25/2013 5:06:54 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Islander7

Thanks for posting.


59 posted on 01/25/2013 5:06:54 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: winodog

“I saw a video that gave me a better outlook”

I should explain that statement. I knew we were moving through space but the full picture did not hit me until I saw a cool video. As soon as I saw it I thought, gee it would be easy to be left alone if you don’t move at the 486,000 MPH everything else is moving at

Space is more amazing then we can possibly imagine


60 posted on 01/25/2013 5:08:41 AM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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