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A New Mexico Lawmaker Wants To Criminalize Post-Rape Abortions
Business Insider ^ | 01/24/2013 | Abby Rogers

Posted on 01/24/2013 9:00:20 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

A Republican legislator in New Mexico is seeking to force pregnant rape victims to carry the pregnancy to term, claiming the fetus could be used as "evidence" at trial.

Rep. Cathrynn Brown's bill would charge a rape victim who sought an abortion with a third-degree felony for "tampering with evidence," The Huffington Post reported Wednesday.

"Tampering with evidence consists of destroying, changing, hiding, placing or fabricating any physical evidence with intent to prevent the apprehension, prosecution or conviction of any person or to throw suspicion of the commission of a crime upon another," House Bill 206 reads.

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"The bill turns victims of rape and incest into felons and forces them to become incubators of evidence for the state,” ProgressNow New Mexico member Pat Davis told HuffPost. “According to Republican philosophy, victims who are ‘legitimately raped’ will now have to carry the fetus to term in order to prove their case.“

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: abortion; cultureofcorruption; huffingtonpost; pravdapress; prorape
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Ridiculous tactic? Or doing whatever is necessary to slow down the American Holocaust?
1 posted on 01/24/2013 9:00:29 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Another stupid Republican. The dead baby and placenta can be genetically tested in the event of an abortion - this is common practice.

I am pro-life, but if I were a legislator I would vote for an anti-abortion law with rape exceptions, gaining what protection I could for the unborn.

You won’t be able to convince people that abortion even in the case of rape is wrong unless you have FIRST convinced them that abortion is wrong and should be illegal in the ordinary case.


2 posted on 01/24/2013 9:05:49 AM PST by heartwood
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To: Responsibility2nd
I have always been rather at a loss to address this issue. The logic is broken: "You have been raped, therefore we will commit a second assault on you and in the process commit infanticide." On the other hand, I am not sure I have the stomach to make a woman bear her rapist's child to term.

A character deficiency on my part, no doubt. It's a situation in which there are no good choices.

3 posted on 01/24/2013 9:06:47 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What a stupid headline, there is no possibility of a pre-rape abortion.


4 posted on 01/24/2013 9:07:40 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Would a rape victim wait months to have a d and c?

I loathe abortions. But if some piece of slime attacked my wife or daughter I would recommend an immediate scraping to clean whatever filth could possibly have contaminated her health.


5 posted on 01/24/2013 9:09:08 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; wagglebee

Huffington Post seems to be throwing a hissyfit at the light being shed on Planned Parenthood’s PRO-RAPE policy of destroying the evidence AND NOT REPORTING IT TO THE POLICE when a minor is raped, sexually assaulted, enters into a relationship with an adult, etc.

Planned Parenthood has repeatedly been caught on tape ENCOURAGING young girls to LIE in their paperwork so the abortion can proceed with no criminal investigation PERMITTING THE RAPIST TO CONTINUE HIS CRIMES.

I’m not standing here to say that rape victims should be forced to bear a child (although it is no sin of the child or mother that caused the pregnancy). But I will say that the HuffPost Hysterics are misdirected because they shield PRO-RAPE abortionists. Rape is good for their business and they know it.


6 posted on 01/24/2013 9:09:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: svcw

How about the phrase in the article..... ‘legitimately raped’?

I guess its possible to be ‘illegitimately raped’?

Ahhh, semantics.


7 posted on 01/24/2013 9:11:53 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

In fairness to Rep. Brown, her bill says “with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime” so unless the pregnant woman herself intended to destroy evidence, the bill doesn’t apply to her - it is likely intended to apply to a sexual abuser who takes his victim for an abortion, or anyone else collaborating with the effort to hide the rape, statutory or otherwise.


8 posted on 01/24/2013 9:12:24 AM PST by heartwood
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MSM: this guy = all republicans

One effective tactic when arguing with a pro-abort is to “accept” all their exceptions that they bring up, leaving them arguing for abortion at all times during pregnancy for the sake of convenience.

They won’t want to be in that position, but that’s all you should leave them, to show them the folly of their position.


9 posted on 01/24/2013 9:13:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Responsibility2nd; xzins; wagglebee

This tactic is misplaced. You don’t outlaw abortions because the fetus is evidence of a crime, you outlaw abortions because killing children is murder.

This law would only protect unborn children because they are a useful tool to prosecute rape. Normally conceived children would be assumed to have no value.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 9:14:23 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Oberon

If you are truly as conflicted as you say, perhaps you should leave it up to the woman?


11 posted on 01/24/2013 9:18:24 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: P-Marlowe; Responsibility2nd; wmfights; wagglebee

When the prescription is too cute by half and easily opens up to ridicule the side supposedly being helped, one has to wonder if we are dealing with a counter-agent.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 9:19:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t believe it


13 posted on 01/24/2013 9:21:09 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: heartwood

This bill has no chance of passing.

But perhaps the real intent is to compromise and force the abortionists to secure DNA samples of the little baby before/during/after the murder so as to have proof of paternity in rape cases.

Whatever extra steps can be made to force abortionists to recognize that this is human life they are destroying is a good thing.


14 posted on 01/24/2013 9:23:06 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Absolutely stupid and probably won’t hold up in court. This is why Republicans look like such jerks.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 9:23:25 AM PST by goldi
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To: MrB

Do you think that the MSM will forget to mention that the
proposed legislation was proposed by a woman?

Mike


16 posted on 01/24/2013 9:27:44 AM PST by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This has to be a democrat mole posing as a Republican to cause more damage. Nobody can be stupid enough to force a rape victim to carry a rapists child.

Even senators akin and mourdock understand such a ignorant law would destroy the GOP.


17 posted on 01/24/2013 9:29:49 AM PST by soycd
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To: Responsibility2nd

The problem is that abortion mills are basically uncontrolled. If you want to deal with the abortion issue, you don’t go after the woman, you go after the doctor providing the service. Make it criminal for them with stiff penalties.

This clears up alot of the rape and incest issue. Doctors must encourage raped women to seek adoption or keep their baby. They can abort and won’t be penalized if they do, but they must seek out other options first before making that decision.


18 posted on 01/24/2013 9:31:50 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: MrB

Years ago I read about a socialite who had an abortion at five months and divorced her husband because he wouldn’t spring for a $3000 maternity party dress.

Now a pro-abort would say there were long standing marital problems that came to a head and she decided it would be too difficult to raise a child alone and keep a necessary forced connection with the child’s father.


19 posted on 01/24/2013 9:32:54 AM PST by heartwood
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To: xzins
one has to wonder if we are dealing with a counter-agent.

 

No. Besides, leftists already "know" that all republicans think this way anyway, so what real harm is this state rep doing? If she can use this position and bargain down some way to force abortion clinics to really provide DNA samples before/during/after the killing of a child, and this results in fewer abortions then its all good.

How liberals think of Republicans:


20 posted on 01/24/2013 9:33:11 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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