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To: AnAmericanAbroad
I'm a simple enlisted aviation swabbie from 1975-1986 and never saw combat, but here's my point of view in no certain priority:

1. Women should have to register for the draft if they truly want to be equal;
2. Women can be as effective as men in aerial combat. They are very dextrous. So let them die in a dog-fight or an RPG hit the helo;
3. If they are to be assigned ground infantry, they should have NO special quarters nor other facilities. They want to be grunts, then they "shit, shower, and shave" the same place as men;
4. NO excuses for their menstrual cycles as in PMS;
5. Must be able to complete "basic training" within the same requirements of men if they want to be grunts;
6. If they get pregnant, then a "less than honorable discharge". No more re-assignment while the men take up the slack;
7. Train the men to deal with a woman dying/wounded in ground combat and Triage the worst wounded first. No exceptions;
8. Any woman who dies/wounded in combat gets the same honors as a man;
9. If in a fire fight and they can't carry a wounded man out when having the opportunity, they are to be discharged. No exceptions;
10. ANY sexual contact with either sex in a combat zone, they should be discharged. Same with men;
11. ABSOLUTELY NO women on submarines! Talk about pregnancy just waiting to happen;
12. Train them to stop being so sensitive about perceived sexual harassment;
13. Stop letting them in to our elite forces, only to "ring out", as the only 2 trainees just did in the Rangers, I believe.

Here's my experience with female sailors back around the early 1980's:
Our Frigate was tied up outside a tender (support ship) before women were allowed on combat vessels. While in line on the tender to await the liberty boats, a male sailor just happened to say how nice a female looked from the tender. Next thing I saw was him being pulled out of line by a female CPO for harassment. Not sure what happened to him, but it was indicative of things to come.

They want ground combat? Then assign them all or none. Political Correctness be damned.

Disclaimer: I adore women and think they are the better of our species in many ways. But if they can't hump 70lbs and deal with the rigors of ground combat (which most can't), the few hardy types aside, then ALL should not be there or ALL should be there. No more special treatment. They want to play with the boys, then make them play by the boy's rules;

Years back, I saw too many good careers go down at the Tailhook scandal simply because a couple of female aviators got swatted on the ass, just like the men were getting. Play on the same field or go back to support positions.

Again, all women of the same status of men should have to register with the Selective Service. They want to be equal then be equal.

Last thought: Israel tried putting women in ground combat units only for that experiment to fail. They stopped.

202 posted on 01/24/2013 7:54:13 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: A Navy Vet

They can’t even fix the sexual assualt epedimic they are having now much less address anything you posted.

This is how I’ve heard it presented.

A guy is in the desert at night going to his tent.

He hears a woman screaming for help.

He says to himself, she’s a soldier like me so she should be able to defend herself.

He ignores the cries for help.

GI Jane files a sexual assault charge the next day.

Leadership beats up the males for not helping.


204 posted on 01/24/2013 8:09:32 AM PST by USAF80
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To: A Navy Vet

Simple Question: Do the women really want this? What is the real motivation behind this madness? Our current administration is good about dealing with fantasies but reality? No. There is no way I would want my daughter out in the trenches knowing that if she came face to face with a male soldier on the battlefield and her gun was inoperable or out of ammo that she would have to physically engage on those terms in the heat of battle. It’s an unfair fight from the gitgo (on the avg) no matter what fantasies the left have about females from watching Columbiana, Charlies Angels, or The Avengers. In real life people don’t jump 50 ft in the air land on their opponents shoulders and grip their heads and twist and break it then backwards somersault onto their feet to engage in more Kung Fu’ery with another enemy (yes I think some of the left probably believe this is real because they live in a fantasy bubble perpetrated by Hollywood and the MSM).

I agree, I think women make excellent pilots, are good at administration, and management but let’s give them some respect and honor and nt put them in the trenches. The reality would be a nightmare for many of he reasons you stated. It would be true great a distractor due to the human condition.


205 posted on 01/24/2013 8:14:45 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: A Navy Vet

Simple Question: Do the women really want this? What is the real motivation behind this madness? Our current administration is good about dealing with fantasies but reality? No. There is no way I would want my daughter out in the trenches knowing that if she came face to face with a male soldier on the battlefield and her weapon jammed or out of ammo for some reason that she would have to physically engage on those terms in the heat of battle. It’s an unfair fight from the gitgo (on the avg) no matter what twisted fantasies the left have about females engaging in combat with males from watching Columbiana, Charlies Angels, or The Avengers. In real life people don’t jump 50 ft in the air land on their opponents shoulders and grip their heads and twist and break it then backwards somersault onto their feet to engage in more Kung Fu’ery with another enemy (yes I think some of the left probably believe this is real because they live in a fantasy bubble perpetrated by Hollywood and the MSM).

I agree, I think women make excellent pilots, are good at administration, and management but let’s give them some respect and honor and not put them in the trenches. The reality would be a nightmare for many of he reasons you stated. It would be true great a distractor due to the human condition.


206 posted on 01/24/2013 8:16:32 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: A Navy Vet

“9. If in a fire fight and they can’t carry a wounded man out when having the opportunity, they are to be discharged. No exceptions; “

Too bad for that wounded now dead guy.


234 posted on 01/30/2013 1:26:11 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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