Skip to comments.It might not get weirder than this
Posted on 01/22/2013 6:35:15 PM PST by chessplayer
Disclaimer: I am a North Korea amateur and can only share what it's like to be part of a NK-bound delegation. Straightforward trip report here: no discussion of meeting details or intentions--just some informal observations.
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Ping for later...only have time for a glance just now. Strange indeed...I’ve never seen anything from the inside.
Obama’s dream world!
Looks great, right? All this activity, all those monitors. Probably 90 desks in the room, all manned, with an identical scene one floor up.
One problem: No one was actually doing anything. A few scrolled or clicked, but the rest just stared. More disturbing: when our group walked in--a noisy bunch, with media in tow--not one of them looked up from their desks. Not a head turn, no eye contact, no reaction to stimuli. They might as well have been figurines.
What is weirder to me is that they have been able to sustain it for years.
Thanks for this post, a wonderful eye-opener.
America, this is what most of Congress either knowingly or unknowingly is working towards.
Monopolists are statists.
They think since they can organize GE so well they could also organize a one-world government just was well.
That fallacy is so deceptive and alluring.
To a monopolist, NK is just a captive market.
Whatever they were monitoring for the government was too sensitive to show foreigners. They were instructed in every aspect of the visit, including their demeanor. Likely the penalty for breach of protocol would be death. In the USA they are called ‘data centers’.
And don’t for a minute believe North Koreans, aside from a very few defectors, oppose this. They love their govt. The outpouring of grief and sadness when Kim Il-sung died was genuine. They weren’t faking it.
My brother worked for a time in China for Simplot. The Chinese arranged for a visit to North Korea. My brother said it was mondo bizarro then, just after Kim Jong il manifested.
NK is a very enviro-friendly country. Only Kim Il Gore has electricity.
North Koreans are weird even for commies.
even if those people get liberated and free of communism, they are brain dead for the most part....they only know one way to live and that’s hell.
The probably had never seen a computer until that day and hour. Just a bunch of privates from the military dressed in civilian garb. After the visitors left, they were marched out and it was back to border duty.
Here’s an excellent, super weird internet documentary from Vice TV on getting into North Korea (along with hidden camera), circa 2008:
Summary from Vice TV founder, Shane Smith:
Getting into North Korea was one of the hardest and weirdest processes VICE has ever dealt with. After we went back and forth with their representatives for months, they finally said they were going to allow 16 journalists into the country to cover the Arirang Mass Games in Pyongyang. Then, ten days before we were supposed to go, they said, No, nobody can come. Then they said, OK, OK, you can come. But only as tourists. We had no idea what that was supposed to mean. They already knew we were journalists, and over there if you get caught being a journalist when youre supposed to be a tourist you go to jail. We dont like jail. And were willing to bet wed hate jail in North Korea. But we went for it. The first leg of the trip was a flight into northern China. At the airport, the North Korean consulate took our passports and all of our money, then brought us to a restaurant. We were sitting there with our tour group, and suddenly all the other diners left and these women came out and started singing North Korean nationalist songs. We were thinking, Look, we were just on a plane for 20 hours. Were jet-lagged. Can we just go to bed? but this guy with our group who was from the LA Times told us, Everyone in here besides us is secret police. If you dont act excited then youre not going to get your visa. So we got drunk and jumped up onstage and sang songs with the girls. The next day we got our visas. A lot of people we had gone with didnt get theirs. That was our first hint at just what a freaky, freaky trip we were embarking on
This is most likely true. Another video on the web from a British tourist that managed to get to NK on a tour showed something similar. He and his party were taken to a restaurant. The group, about ten people, were the only people in the restaurant. In order to try to make it less weird, the restaurant staff made food enough for every seat in the room, and served it, to a nearly empty restaurant, as if they were waiting for a large party to show up. But no one else ever came.
This is probably the same thing. They needed a data center, so they put some computers in a room, turned them on, and got some people to sit there pretending to work.
Third Person’s video is the video with the restaurant scene. It is a well worth the time for anyone to see.
Enviro-friendly, good point. Give it enough time, and the warmers will have us living the same way. Communism and all, no doubt.
Totalitarian Dream Land.... Is Homeland Security sending 'troops' over to get training from these folks?
Obamas dream world!
His socialist dream is America's nightmare.
I lovin' it!
How does it feel to be a amateur North Korean?
“After the visitors left, they were marched out and it was back to border duty...”
I just got a great idea for having illegals earn citizenship here in the USA...
some people actually want to visit that prison?
Creepy Pictures From The Hidden 5th Floor Of A North Korean Hotel
those people were there for show...”hey look we have internet too”
That's no different from our leaders and their Hollywood celebrity friends.
Yes, they were monitored at those cry-athons and if they did not show up in public at least twice to grieve, they and their families could be shipped off to death camps.
So, yes, they better cry.
can I be on that Peng list?
National Geographic - Inside North Korea (Part 1)
I love the vice guide to north Korea and I consider it the best view of NK I’ve ever seen. I still wonder how those guys made it out alive.
Oh, and the tea girl was cute as a button.
What do the Norks eat when snow covers the dirt????
Epic journalism.... the fear and the anxiety and the balls.
Fascinating. Watched part 1, on to parts 2 & 3.
Good comment - epic journalism indeed. Compare to Dan Rather et al hugging Fidel. How did they manage to get away with it?
There is a fantastic book (actually a comic book but don’t let hat deter you) written by a French Canadian cartoonist about his experiences in North Korea (they have limited commercial activity with, among other things, European animation studios).
I strongly encourage you to seek it out.
Sounds like a great place for Piers Morgan to relocate.
Reminds me of the movie “Gattaca” which was surprisingly anti-progressive for something from Hollywood.
What is weirder to me is that they have been able to sustain it for years.
(1) Brainwash the children until they are adults.
(2) Brainwash the adults for the rest of their life.
See, it’s easy. As a matter of fact we have brainwashing facilities right here in America. It’s the educational system and main stream media.
And these guys are not even journalist. The so called college indoctrinated "journalist" would have probably done a puff piece. On top of it these guys are Canadian.
In America, I don't see starving people (except for the mentally deranged who are homeless drug addicts by choice). In fact, the low income families look pretty obese to me.
I just figured that at some point they should start running out of people.