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It might not get weirder than this
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Posted on 01/22/2013 6:35:15 PM PST by chessplayer

Disclaimer: I am a North Korea amateur and can only share what it's like to be part of a NK-bound delegation. Straightforward trip report here: no discussion of meeting details or intentions--just some informal observations.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; dprk; northkorea; travelogs; vanity

1 posted on 01/22/2013 6:35:18 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Ping for later...only have time for a glance just now. Strange indeed...I’ve never seen anything from the inside.


2 posted on 01/22/2013 6:43:03 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: chessplayer

Obama’s dream world!


3 posted on 01/22/2013 6:45:19 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: chessplayer
Picture and text from the story:

Looks great, right? All this activity, all those monitors. Probably 90 desks in the room, all manned, with an identical scene one floor up.

One problem: No one was actually doing anything. A few scrolled or clicked, but the rest just stared. More disturbing: when our group walked in--a noisy bunch, with media in tow--not one of them looked up from their desks. Not a head turn, no eye contact, no reaction to stimuli. They might as well have been figurines.

4 posted on 01/22/2013 6:48:21 PM PST by wolf24
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To: chessplayer

What is weirder to me is that they have been able to sustain it for years.


5 posted on 01/22/2013 6:52:10 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: chessplayer

Thanks for this post, a wonderful eye-opener.

America, this is what most of Congress either knowingly or unknowingly is working towards.

Monopolists are statists.

They think since they can organize GE so well they could also organize a one-world government just was well.

That fallacy is so deceptive and alluring.

To a monopolist, NK is just a captive market.


6 posted on 01/22/2013 6:58:05 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: wolf24

Whatever they were monitoring for the government was too sensitive to show foreigners. They were instructed in every aspect of the visit, including their demeanor. Likely the penalty for breach of protocol would be death. In the USA they are called ‘data centers’.


7 posted on 01/22/2013 6:59:54 PM PST by STYRO (Hope you takers don't expect us producers to defend you. War sucks most for the losers.)
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To: bigheadfred

And don’t for a minute believe North Koreans, aside from a very few defectors, oppose this. They love their govt. The outpouring of grief and sadness when Kim Il-sung died was genuine. They weren’t faking it.


8 posted on 01/22/2013 7:02:05 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer
Interesting.

Q: Did these athletes play indoor or outdoor soccer? A: Trick question. They have no heat, so what's the difference?

In order to keep the populace in the dark, they really do have to keep them in the dark:
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it's like The Truman Show, at country scale.

Ted Turner, communist sympathist/entrepreneur, was also allowed to visit North Korea once. I remember his words were something like "I didn't see any starving peopole, they just looked a little thin".
9 posted on 01/22/2013 7:08:17 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (Common sense is the first casualty of a depraved mind.)
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To: chessplayer

My brother worked for a time in China for Simplot. The Chinese arranged for a visit to North Korea. My brother said it was mondo bizarro then, just after Kim Jong il manifested.


10 posted on 01/22/2013 7:10:04 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Telepathic Intruder

NK is a very enviro-friendly country. Only Kim Il Gore has electricity.


11 posted on 01/22/2013 7:13:01 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: chessplayer

North Koreans are weird even for commies.


12 posted on 01/22/2013 7:13:32 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! [You can vote Democrat when you're dead]...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; SevenofNine; Charles Henrickson
핑!
13 posted on 01/22/2013 7:16:17 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: chessplayer

even if those people get liberated and free of communism, they are brain dead for the most part....they only know one way to live and that’s hell.


14 posted on 01/22/2013 7:19:19 PM PST by oust the louse ("When capitalism disintegrates, socialism ceases to have any validity or justification.”)
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To: wolf24
One problem: No one was actually doing anything. A few scrolled or clicked, but the rest just stared.

The probably had never seen a computer until that day and hour. Just a bunch of privates from the military dressed in civilian garb. After the visitors left, they were marched out and it was back to border duty.

15 posted on 01/22/2013 7:24:14 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: chessplayer; All

Here’s an excellent, super weird internet documentary from Vice TV on getting into North Korea (along with hidden camera), circa 2008:

http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/vice-guide-to-north-korea-1-of-3

Summary from Vice TV founder, Shane Smith:

Getting into North Korea was one of the hardest and weirdest processes VICE has ever dealt with. After we went back and forth with their representatives for months, they finally said they were going to allow 16 journalists into the country to cover the Arirang Mass Games in Pyongyang. Then, ten days before we were supposed to go, they said, “No, nobody can come.” Then they said, “OK, OK, you can come. But only as tourists.” We had no idea what that was supposed to mean. They already knew we were journalists, and over there if you get caught being a journalist when you’re supposed to be a tourist you go to jail. We don’t like jail. And we’re willing to bet we’d hate jail in North Korea. But we went for it. The first leg of the trip was a flight into northern China. At the airport, the North Korean consulate took our passports and all of our money, then brought us to a restaurant. We were sitting there with our tour group, and suddenly all the other diners left and these women came out and started singing North Korean nationalist songs. We were thinking, “Look, we were just on a plane for 20 hours. We’re jet-lagged. Can we just go to bed?” but this guy with our group who was from the LA Times told us, “Everyone in here besides us is secret police. If you don’t act excited then you’re not going to get your visa. So we got drunk and jumped up onstage and sang songs with the girls. The next day we got our visas. A lot of people we had gone with didn’t get theirs. That was our first hint at just what a freaky, freaky trip we were embarking on…


16 posted on 01/22/2013 7:24:53 PM PST by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: chessplayer
Obama is seriously jealous.
17 posted on 01/22/2013 7:25:28 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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To: VRW Conspirator
The probably had never seen a computer until that day and hour. Just a bunch of privates from the military dressed in civilian garb. After the visitors left, they were marched out and it was back to border duty.

This is most likely true. Another video on the web from a British tourist that managed to get to NK on a tour showed something similar. He and his party were taken to a restaurant. The group, about ten people, were the only people in the restaurant. In order to try to make it less weird, the restaurant staff made food enough for every seat in the room, and served it, to a nearly empty restaurant, as if they were waiting for a large party to show up. But no one else ever came.

This is probably the same thing. They needed a data center, so they put some computers in a room, turned them on, and got some people to sit there pretending to work.

18 posted on 01/22/2013 7:31:21 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: VRW Conspirator

Third Person’s video is the video with the restaurant scene. It is a well worth the time for anyone to see.


19 posted on 01/22/2013 7:33:37 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: TigersEye

Enviro-friendly, good point. Give it enough time, and the warmers will have us living the same way. Communism and all, no doubt.


20 posted on 01/22/2013 7:34:40 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (Common sense is the first casualty of a depraved mind.)
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To: Third Person
We’re jet-lagged. Can we just go to bed?” but this guy with our group who was from the LA Times told us, “Everyone in here besides us is secret police. If you don’t act excited then you’re not going to get your visa. So we got drunk and jumped up onstage and sang songs with the girls. The next day we got our visas. A lot of people we had gone with didn’t get theirs. That was our first hint at just what a freaky, freaky trip we were embarking on…

Totalitarian Dream Land.... Is Homeland Security sending 'troops' over to get training from these folks?

21 posted on 01/22/2013 7:42:57 PM PST by GOPJ ( Do murder laws control murders?... freeper Red Badger)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Obama’s dream world!

His socialist dream is America's nightmare.

22 posted on 01/22/2013 7:48:07 PM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: chessplayer
They made sure to show us the American-style fast food restaurant, though their timing appeared to be off: the place was shuttered when we arrived. Workers scrambled to put on aprons and turn on the lights.

I lovin' it!

23 posted on 01/22/2013 7:48:57 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: chessplayer
***Disclaimer: I am a North Korea amateur and can only share what it's like to be part of a NK-bound delegation***

How does it feel to be a amateur North Korean?

24 posted on 01/22/2013 8:02:05 PM PST by irishtenor (Everything in moderation, however, too much whiskey is just enough... Mark Twain)
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To: VRW Conspirator

“After the visitors left, they were marched out and it was back to border duty...”

I just got a great idea for having illegals earn citizenship here in the USA...


25 posted on 01/22/2013 8:08:22 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: chessplayer; TigerLikesRooster

some people actually want to visit that prison?


26 posted on 01/22/2013 8:23:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SueRae

Creepy Pictures From The Hidden 5th Floor Of A North Korean Hotel
http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korea-kim-jong-unkim-jong-il-hidden-fifth-floor-yanggakdo-hotel-pyongyang2011-12?op=1


27 posted on 01/22/2013 8:25:10 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: STYRO

those people were there for show...”hey look we have internet too”


28 posted on 01/22/2013 8:26:16 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: chessplayer; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Because the Leaders are god-like figures, when one provides "on-site guidance" (which they always can, because they are experts in all things) it's like a benediction.

That's no different from our leaders and their Hollywood celebrity friends.

29 posted on 01/22/2013 8:26:24 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: chessplayer

Yes, they were monitored at those cry-athons and if they did not show up in public at least twice to grieve, they and their families could be shipped off to death camps.

So, yes, they better cry.


30 posted on 01/22/2013 8:28:15 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: martin_fierro

can I be on that Peng list?


31 posted on 01/22/2013 8:29:14 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: chessplayer

National Geographic - Inside North Korea (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9xxjU_qjdQ

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIUDv1TRJLg

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUFrhthA6ZQ

Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F2urskhloA

Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bPlimRi4jo


32 posted on 01/22/2013 8:34:15 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Third Person

I love the vice guide to north Korea and I consider it the best view of NK I’ve ever seen. I still wonder how those guys made it out alive.


33 posted on 01/22/2013 8:35:59 PM PST by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: Third Person

Oh, and the tea girl was cute as a button.


34 posted on 01/22/2013 8:37:49 PM PST by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: chessplayer

Question???

What do the Norks eat when snow covers the dirt????


35 posted on 01/22/2013 8:40:06 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: BBell

Epic journalism.... the fear and the anxiety and the balls.


36 posted on 01/22/2013 9:01:47 PM PST by Third Person (I'm in my prime.)
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To: Third Person

Fascinating. Watched part 1, on to parts 2 & 3.


37 posted on 01/22/2013 9:03:44 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: chessplayer
An old vet told me years ago that we should bomb them with playboy magazine, transistor radios and cold Budweiser
38 posted on 01/22/2013 9:04:18 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Freedom is my F word.)
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To: Third Person

Good comment - epic journalism indeed. Compare to Dan Rather et al hugging Fidel. How did they manage to get away with it?


39 posted on 01/22/2013 9:10:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: chessplayer

There is a fantastic book (actually a comic book but don’t let hat deter you) written by a French Canadian cartoonist about his experiences in North Korea (they have limited commercial activity with, among other things, European animation studios).

I strongly encourage you to seek it out.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_(comics)


40 posted on 01/22/2013 10:03:32 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: chessplayer

Sounds like a great place for Piers Morgan to relocate.


41 posted on 01/22/2013 11:30:35 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: wolf24

Reminds me of the movie “Gattaca” which was surprisingly anti-progressive for something from Hollywood.


42 posted on 01/22/2013 11:54:15 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: bigheadfred

What is weirder to me is that they have been able to sustain it for years.


There are two main ingredients required:

(1) Brainwash the children until they are adults.
(2) Brainwash the adults for the rest of their life.

See, it’s easy. As a matter of fact we have brainwashing facilities right here in America. It’s the educational system and main stream media.


43 posted on 01/23/2013 5:29:25 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Third Person
Epic journalism.... the fear and the anxiety and the balls.

And these guys are not even journalist. The so called college indoctrinated "journalist" would have probably done a puff piece. On top of it these guys are Canadian.

44 posted on 01/23/2013 5:54:42 AM PST by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
Ted Turner, communist sympathist/entrepreneur, was also allowed to visit North Korea once. I remember his words were something like "I didn't see any starving peopole, they just looked a little thin".

In America, I don't see starving people (except for the mentally deranged who are homeless drug addicts by choice). In fact, the low income families look pretty obese to me.

45 posted on 01/23/2013 12:39:10 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: DH

I just figured that at some point they should start running out of people.


46 posted on 01/23/2013 5:15:58 PM PST by bigheadfred
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