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Posted on 01/22/2013 7:41:54 AM PST by Texas Eagle
Department of Homeland Security: Sport rifle (AR-15) suitable for personal defense
Posted by Steve McGough on January 15, 2013 at 8:28 am
The United States Department of Homeland Security has stated a rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO (compatible with .223) with a magazine capacity of 30 rounds is suitable for personal defense use in close quarters
Well smack me up-side the head. First, a hat tip to Breitbarts Awr Hawkins who pointed us to a posted General Services Administration (GSA) business opportunity solicitation posted and updated last summer. Basically, the site posts a request for proposal (RFP) for personal defense weapons for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) division of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
This RFP is not for the traditional armed forces. This solicitation is specific to law enforcement who almost exclusively work within and along the borders of the United States. Certainly the threats ICE officers may be subject to are the same exact threats law-abiding residents could be subject to.
(Excerpt) Read more at radioviceonline.com ...
Good. I loaded up on 30-round magazines several years ago when the prices were still quite reasonable. I won’t be giving them up, or even registering them anytime soon.
This could be big for any future legal challenges of state or the national gun bans. Because when the Supreme Court overturned the DC handgun ban in “Heller” their reasoning was handguns had a self-defense use. That is also why the gun grabbers have started this mantra “Assault Weapons are weapons of war with “no practical use”.
That’s nice, but they ain’t playin’ nice. It doesn’t matter what the DHS deems or doesn’t deem. All it would take is for the BATFABCDE to decree that the AR-15 with a 30-round magazine “has no sporting purpose”.
I’m not a sportsman and I never was.
Nice to know, but their opinion doesn’t matter in the Constitutional sense.
Everyone knows LEOs (as well as celebs, politicians, other elites and their children) are potential targets. That's why THEY need personal defense and WE don't.
*** to decree that the AR-15 with a 30-round magazine has no sporting purpose.***
I believe that the Clinton ban had a statement in it that a rifle designed for sporting use may not be considered for sporting use by the Government.
Neither am I. But let’s be real about what motivates the BATFABCDE.
“The United States Department of Homeland Security has stated a rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO (compatible with .223) with a magazine capacity of 30 rounds
is suitable for personal defense use in close quarters
I would strongly suggest wearing hearing protection especially when firing indoors. Deafness and/or tinnitus are not your friends.
Oh I know what their motivations are, but it is my motivations that I will follow.
Whatever argument the federal government is making that citizens don't need modern rifles for personal defense is completely undercut by their own purchase request. DHS has no military role, simply protection of life and property in the USA, which is a right of other citizens too. If citizens don't need rifles with 30 round magazines to protect themselves, neither do the DHS employees.
And realistically, DHS doesn't need select fire weapons, nobody should be laying down suppressive fire in a typical law enforcement situation.
I think the RFQ in question was for “personal defense weapons” based on a number of parameters other than the caliber. Such as: sub-16” barrel, 20” overall (collapsed/folded) length, etc. In other words, NFA-registerable “short-barrelled rifles”, where we peons are concerned.
**** is suitable for personal defense use in close quarters ****
Back in 1934, there was an attempt to place handguns on the taxed list along with machine guns. It was claimed that people preferred to use rifles for home defense.
I believe the NRA was instrumental in removing handguns from the taxed list.
Personal defense for ME, not for THEE, PROLES!
They know the baddies will pay no attention to gun laws. The cops don't want to be out-gunned.
The M16 would not be my First Choice for a PDW.My First Choice would be an FN P-90.
The P-90 is designed for Close quarters combat and if someone has broke into your home that’s what your going to have.
Oh, golly. The elite have spoken. We have permission to accept what our eyes and brains tell us now. Woo hoo!
I assume by “sportsman” they mean “hunting & fishing”, I do both. The term “sportsman has also been used to describe some who engage in other activities that don’t include me. I don’t consider myself a “sportsman” either and I don’t consider my right to own firearms has anything to do with hunting or any other “sporting” purposes. Any other uses besides protection which includes personsl, family, community and country are a fringe benefit which also helps keep my proficient in their use.
Good work! Requesting permission to steal.
The cops will ignore the mag limit, too. Who is going to enforce it against them?
mi casa es su casa
Tom Logan: I'm a jackpot farmer with one milk cow and a hundred-square-foot patch of vegetables.
Jane: Then how come you have so many guns?
Tom: Because I'm a sportsman.
Jane: Why do you have a sawed-off shotgun?
Tom: Because I'm a sawed-off sportsman.
Uh, oh... looks like somebody at DHS didn't get the memo LOL.
That's assuming they aren't exempt to begin with.
Reports say that the law as passed did not have an exception for police.
Do they make toy guns anymore?