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Report: Gen. Mattis Forced Out of CENTCOM for Questioning Obama's Advisers
Breitbart ^ | 1/21/13 | AWR Haekins

Posted on 01/21/2013 7:18:42 PM PST by Nachum

Reports indicate that Marine General James Mattis is being forced out of CENTCOM for questioning certain aspects of the Obama administration's Middle East policy.

In particular, it appears his questions surrounding the U.S. response to Iran's nuclear ambitions drew the ire of civilian military and security advisers.

These civilians were apparently upset by the way Mattis pushed them to "consider second and third-order consequences of military action against Iran." Nor did they appreciate the way he pushed them to think long term and consider what the U.S. will do if Iran develops non-nuclear weapons that can be used to keep U.S. ships out of the Persian Gulf.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: advisers; bhodod; brookingsinstitute; centcom; foreignpolicy; jamesmattis; jarrett; mattis; mepolicy; military; militarypurge; obamamilitary; obamasucks; podesta; questioning
The Won, vs. the U.S. Military
1 posted on 01/21/2013 7:18:48 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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2 posted on 01/21/2013 7:19:46 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Someday, the military is going to get tired of this kind of thing...just saying.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 7:23:02 PM PST by Clarence
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To: Nachum; Reaganite Republican; Clintons Are White Trash; HerrBlucher; mgist; raptor22; ...
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4 posted on 01/21/2013 7:24:11 PM PST by narses
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To: Nachum

Bump


5 posted on 01/21/2013 7:24:18 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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6 posted on 01/21/2013 7:24:53 PM PST by narses
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To: Nachum

Truman vs MacArthur

Normally, I like the fact that our civilian government controls the military. Today, I have the opposite feeling. Especially with the nearby thread (which I do not know is trustworthy) that indicates Obama is only accepting candidates for high-level promotions if they say that they are willing to fire on Americans.

Scary times.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 7:25:12 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Nachum
Whenever I read stories like this.

I just can't shake the feeling that Ubama's military meetings go alot like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR5q0ajW8Ko


8 posted on 01/21/2013 7:25:48 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Nachum

Maybe Mattis got his bet down on the Preakness too soon...


9 posted on 01/21/2013 7:26:27 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Clarence

Didn’t happen under Stalin’s purges.


10 posted on 01/21/2013 7:28:02 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Nachum

Why do I need to be able to defend myself?

Because Obama keeps firing all of the military commanders who disagree with him!

What happens when “all” of them “agree”?


11 posted on 01/21/2013 7:29:18 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Clarence; Nachum

The sooner the better. I’m tired of waiting.


12 posted on 01/21/2013 7:29:56 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Nachum

And by the sheer number of US generals that have fallen over the past two years or so (including McChrystal) , I would say “the won” is winning.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 7:30:40 PM PST by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Nachum

Why worry about little things like long-term goals and objectives? What could possible go wrong? Obama has promised peace in our times. /s


14 posted on 01/21/2013 7:32:22 PM PST by teacherwoes ("I saw under the sun in the place of judgment wickedness, and in the place of justice iniquity.")
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To: Clarence

Yeah, sure.


15 posted on 01/21/2013 7:32:44 PM PST by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: Nachum

Wish someone would dare to ask him about Libya.


16 posted on 01/21/2013 7:37:39 PM PST by Faith
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To: G Larry
Because Obama keeps firing all of the military commanders who disagree with him!

What happens when “all” of them “agree”?

Game>set> match. The Sodomites have won and America is lost.

17 posted on 01/21/2013 7:40:04 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: Nachum

No contest, so far.

Now, we read the military is forced to undergo sensitivity training, and also Buddhist like meditation training, out of Georgetown no less, for lowering stress and increasing recovery from battle trauma & fatigue, and hopefully decreasing suicide.

We don’t really know what all is going on in our military right now, nor being done *to* our military.


18 posted on 01/21/2013 7:45:01 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Nachum
He refused to pledge to fire upon US civilians when the time comes.
19 posted on 01/21/2013 7:45:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Nachum
"Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines".~Major General Chesty Puller, USMC
20 posted on 01/21/2013 7:45:11 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: RitaOK; Saoirise
"... and also Buddhist like meditation training, out of Georgetown no less, for lowering stress and increasing recovery from battle trauma & fatigue, and hopefully decreasing suicide.

We don’t really know what all is going on in our military right now, nor being done *to* our military.

Newer, softer more sensitive Marines. Yet they kick Jesus Christ out. Go figure!

21 posted on 01/21/2013 7:49:25 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: G Larry

but jcs demsey still supportys him. both are self serving scum and have already reserved their place in their own special level of hell.


22 posted on 01/21/2013 7:54:15 PM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: Nachum

You must show enthusiasm and the proper level of ardor for the dear leader and his minions. Don’t confuse them with facts or reason.


23 posted on 01/21/2013 7:58:16 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Nachum

OBayMe, Dictator in Chief!


24 posted on 01/21/2013 8:09:02 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: corlorde

McChrystal is NOT one of us. Neither is Powell, nor Clark.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 8:13:09 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Nachum
I've lost count how many generals/admirals etc. have stepped down, taken early retirement, relieved of of command lately.
26 posted on 01/21/2013 8:38:17 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Nachum

Why can’t I shake the feeling, that we will see these guys who have all been fired recently, AGAIN. Keep it up Obimbo, it just makes it easier for the rest of us.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 8:51:11 PM PST by docman57 (Retired but still on Duty)
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To: RitaOK

The problem is if no one enlisted and all those in the military refused to re-up, obama gets exactly what he wants. Then here come the Russians and others after our natural resources.

I was stupid to believe Russia was no longer our enemy when Putin and W buddied up. And I was stupid to believe W.


28 posted on 01/21/2013 9:26:41 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: Jim Noble

One could only wish this was going on. But in all truth there have been many other major commands changed, some for the right reasons (nude swimming,embezzlement) but a whole lot (particularly in Africa Command) on “disagreements”.

Obamaumao is destroying the leadership core, and Hagel will help him (Hagel having never risen above a grunt sargent, has little understanding of theater command of a general officer). The real key is— what is happening to our nuclear deterrent, and in particular submarines and Land based ICBMs as regards particularly the chinee and iranians.


29 posted on 01/21/2013 10:09:52 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Jim Noble

It would take more than 7 days. Additional comment: look at the destruction of Petraeus (an expert in counterinsurgency) and this Mattis (a exceptional warrior Marine, who kicks butt— a fighter, the kind whose advice you would think obamaumao would want, but since he can’t accept criticism of himself or his policies, he would not have him around— like Hitler or Stalin killing their generals).

One other thought is— these people as civilians could organize quite a resistance in the homeland n’est-ce pas?

The NDAA which Congress passed empowers the US military to indefinitely detain US citizens without charge or trial when the Executive Branch alleges that they are suspected of supporting terrorist activities.
It is possible that this is the test of whether an officer is kept on or not— that being it would be a “lawful” order in the sense there is a law supporting it. But many consider it to be “unconstitutional” and their oath is to the Constitution...not to the executive.


30 posted on 01/21/2013 10:21:18 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Terry Mross

This is surreal to believe a major military hero might have made such a statement to someone so unknown. The fear fodder immobilizes. Can’t think of a better ploy to set us rubes off into a tailspin. Let’s not be baited.

Heroes, generally, will speak out loud, in the worst of circumstances.


31 posted on 01/21/2013 10:39:47 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Terry Mross
I was stupid to believe Russia was no longer our enemy when Putin and W buddied up. And I was stupid to believe W.

Friend, Communism has never been so alive as it has since it was declared dead.

32 posted on 01/21/2013 11:08:59 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Nachum

The condescending arrogance starts from the top and works its way through the entire regime.

Pray for America.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 11:20:09 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RitaOK

To RitaOK: re “Heroes general will speak out oloud, in the worst of circumstances”.

In the old days, maybe. Oliver North. Gen. McArthur? Who else since than? Powell? Clark? Schwarzkopf? McChrystall? Zinni? Dempsey?

Obama’s military theme is “We don’t need another hero.”

Unfortunately, he is getting that.


34 posted on 01/21/2013 11:30:37 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Nachum
Not necessarily talking about this case, but I hope that many of those being purged from all levels of our military are prepared to stand up to this unconstitutional government to help lead efforts in ridding us of it's tyranny.

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35 posted on 01/22/2013 12:31:28 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
We need to be openly and peacefully defiant on a massive scale when it comes to blatant unconstitutional laws and mandates. We have to use new tactics that are a little more extreme if we are going to fight for our Constitution, and everything good that our founding fathers envisioned our nation being. We can peacefully take back many of our liberties, and leave it up to the government to decide if they want violence. If they do want to commit mass murder to enforce their tyranny then it should sat off a righteous firestorm on the tyrants, and instigators by patriots acting in self defense.

Constitutional Sheriff and Peace Officer Association

CSPOA.ORG

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36 posted on 01/22/2013 2:17:28 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: Nachum

When the time comes for choosing and for states to decide if the union is to be preserved, Obama will have remade the military to one that is loyal to him.


37 posted on 01/22/2013 4:20:36 AM PST by Truth29
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To: ThunderSleeps
“You must show enthusiasm and the proper level of ardor for the dear leader and his minions. Don’t confuse them with facts or reason.”

The General was shown the door. Obama is declaring the end to war dontchaknow!/S

I'd bet BO and Mattis had very different visions of drawdown in Afghanistan.

2/11

“U.S. general “militarily uncomfortable” with Afghan date”

“But we fight wars for a political reason. I hope we do. I hope we are not just fighting for the fun of it,” said Mattis, answering questions after making one of his first major speeches since being appointed to the post last year. Some U.S. and NATO officials have said a spike in violence and problems in building up a capable Afghan army and police force to take over could make it hard to meet the 2014 goal.

Mattis said the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan were under the most significant pressure since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion “and we intend to keep it that way.”

“The security progress is undeniable,” he said.

“In key areas in Afghanistan the enemy is disoriented and on the defensive,” Mattis said, although he said there would be very tough fighting ahead...”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/02/us-afghanistan-mattis-idUKTRE7110LJ20110202

38 posted on 01/22/2013 11:28:15 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: Saoirise; All
I believe this is the General BO has slotted to replace Mattis.

General Lloyd Austin, United States Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Austin

“On 1 September 2010 he became Commanding General of US forces Iraq at a ceremony at the al-Faw palace in Bagdad, Iraq after the US combat missions ended...”

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2012/12/marine-james-mattis-lloyd-austin-centcom-120612w/

39 posted on 01/22/2013 11:33:56 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: Nachum

Bump and Ping to #39.


40 posted on 01/22/2013 11:35:02 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: 444Flyer

Do we know any more about these men?


41 posted on 01/22/2013 12:28:27 PM PST by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Wonder if the new General’s a ‘yes’ man.


42 posted on 01/22/2013 12:35:11 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: 444Flyer
Obuma is purging the Generals in his true Stalin Naziesque style. Mattis has a loyal following amongst the active duty Marines not to mention the Retired and Reserve Corps.

Mad Dog stands in the way of O’s agenda to disarm and silence the people, O knows Marines will follow Mattis and not O’s orders.

We need Mattis in our posse!

43 posted on 01/22/2013 7:58:09 PM PST by Saoirise (Free Larry Hutchins - USMC)
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To: Saoirise

See #39.


44 posted on 01/22/2013 8:09:58 PM PST by 444Flyer
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To: 444Flyer
Yep, saw that. Gen Austin’s career looks good on paper, but Mattis has the allegiance of his Marines.

I was watching Braveheart on TV tonight and I will leave you with a quote that I thought fitting-

…men don’t follow titles, they follow courage

45 posted on 01/22/2013 8:35:39 PM PST by Saoirise (Free Larry Hutchins - USMC)
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To: Saoirise
I have a very healthy amount of cynicism for anyone Obama picks!

John Kerry anyone!?

46 posted on 01/22/2013 8:39:05 PM PST by 444Flyer
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